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PostPosted: 08 Sep 2008, 16:01 
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Ok, I trust you guys here for your \"TECH KNOWLEDGE\"

My Youngest Daughter (Freshman in College\" bought a new \"Dell Desk top\"
[mad] [mad] [mad] Well it her money. It was on clearance for 60% off and came with everything she wanted (except its vista) and a 22\" HD Monitor but it doesn't have a \"WI-FI \" card.
She can hook up to her \"DSL\" or \"Dail-up\" but their new \"Modem \" also is a router for Wire-less internet.

Now my question is \"Does she have to install a \"Card\" into the computer or is their another way around it?
She has already found out about \"Dell's award winning service\" ( [tard] [mad] [cuss] [bs] :?: :?: ain't none, she can't get thru or their \"Unreadable or \"Lost\"

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Goose, that laptop should be wireless ready but without actually seeing what's happening I can't give you a lot of guidance. A few details would be good..is she showing anything on the task bar at the bottom of the screen? It may be a simple set-up problem.

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PostPosted: 09 Sep 2008, 01:52 
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Goose, Dell Desk Tops typically don't come with a WI FI card. She will need to get one.

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Chief its a Desk Top,

I thought I could get her one of those \"Plug and Play\" WI-FI adapters but I see you probably have to install the WI-FI card in the Tower so you could use the \"WI-FI Adapters.


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We have a desktop that uses a USB style plug in adaptor and it logs into our wireless sytem pretty well. She won't necessarily need to have a card that is installed to the mother board.

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Chief its a Desk Top,


Sorry Goose.

Honest, I can read..just not that well at 4 in the morning. Saw college, college = laptop.

Not sure why you'd want to connect a DESKTOP to a wireless system but Mark is right, desktop units almost never come wireless capable unless it's a special order.

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You think she would of bought a Laptop?

But No , She does her \"Graphic Art Work\" on this new PC because of the power and storage.

Plus that \"Tuner and 22\" HD monitor \" she can watch TV or whatever 18 yr olds do.

Their Provider (AT&T) DSL the modem is across the house and she didn't want to run a cable to the room (Mother Doesn't want too more like it , Damn EX's!)
But it has a Built in B-Band wireless router in it, so now the question is?
Can you use a \"G\" band adaptor with \"B\" band? or \"G\" band\" or do you have to match up the device with the Band?

This is for my Info too since I have that option too.

Thanks again Guys for answering my Stupid questions

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As a rule, wireless protocols are backwards compatible Goose. In other words, a \"G\" card will have no problem with a \"B\" protocol but you wouldn't be able to use a \"B\" card on a network running \"G\" protocol. Make sense?

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Got it!

The \"N\" card would cover \"all protocol\" B,G,and N and a \"B\" card would only be able to use another \"B\" protocol .

So its always better in truth to go with a \"N\" adapter so it works no matter what.

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Here is some info about wireless setups:

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Question: How fast is wireless computer networking?

Answer: The speed of a wireless network depends on several factors.

First, wireless local area networks (WLANs) feature differing levels of performance depending on which Wi-Fi standard they support. 802.11b WLANs offer maximum theoretical bandwidth of 11 Mbps. 802.11a and 802.11g WLANs offer theoretical bandwidth up to 54 Mbps. (In contrast, typical wired Ethernets run at 100 Mbps.)

The performance of Wi-Fi networks in practice never approaches the theoretical maximum. 802.11b networks, for example, generally operate no faster than about 50% of theoretical peak, or 5.5 Mbps. Likewise, 802.11a and 802.11g networks generally run no faster than 20 Mbps. The disparity between theoretical and practical performance comes from protocol overhead, signal interference, and decreasing signal distance with distance. In addition, the more devices communicating on a WLAN simultaneously, the slower the network will appear.

On home networks, keep in mind that the performance of an Internet connection is often the limiting factor in network speed. Even though files can be shared on a wireless LAN at speeds of 5 or 20 Mbps, wireless clients will still connect to the Internet at the speed typically offered by Internet Service Providers, usually less than 1 Mbps.

Finally, wireless network technology is capable of more speed than what Wi-Fi supports today. Industry vendors continue to develop improved technologies like 802.16 WiMAX that offer wireless communications with faster speeds and longer range.


So she won't be getting much better than dial up on the fancy new machine with 802.11b. Her best bet (especially if she uploading/downloading graphics) is to run a Cat5 or Cat6 cable so long as she's not more than about 100 ft. from the router. If that's STILL not aviable option, purchasing an 802.11n router and wireless card/usb \"dongle\" would be her best hopes for wireless.

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Thanks Weasel ,

She can't run a cable, she is on the FAR side of the House, and its on a slab so she'd have to either get them to \"Install a new line into the room\" or just get her own router Is what I'm thinking>

But then the area is a WI-FI Hot spot too.

She should of Gotten a Laptop .

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Weasel_80-204 wrote:
If that's STILL not aviable option, purchasing an 802.11n router and wireless card/usb "dongle" would be her best hopes for wireless.


I knew I didn't just come up with that "dongle" S**t... everyone in my unit looks at me funny when I refer to my cellphone/internet device as a "dongle" now I just have to remember where I saw it first... :?

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