WT Forums

Home | WT Forums | Hogpedia | Warthog blog | Hosted sites
It is currently 15 Apr 2025, 05:48

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 16:02 
I've been trying to post too. Too many hate emails going through for us to get in on the act.

KEEP TRYING BOYS!

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."

Kipling-


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 16:15 
Offline

Joined: 05 Aug 2002, 13:28
Posts: 2210
<i>As for the Collegians response, it's a cop out. Hiding behind the first amendment is a ploy to cover for irresponsible journalism.</i>

You'll sometimes find that the most clueless people you will ever meet go to college.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 18:39 
Offline
WT Game Warden
User avatar

Joined: 27 May 2003, 18:48
Posts: 2449
Location: Still fighting the indians in Western Massachusetts
Ten reasons why Billy hates Massachusetts

1 One of the best colleges in the country allows a psycho hose beast to write an article like that.

2 Teddy K.

3 Northampton

4 Province Town

5 Taxes

6 Fags

7 Lezzies

8 Teddy K

9 One of the best colleges in the country allows a psycho hose beast to write an article like that.

10 Ibid

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

_________________
YGBSM !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 20:12 
Offline
Warthog VFW
User avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2002, 14:02
Posts: 6162
Location: IL
IS THIS PERSON A "HE OR SHE?"
THE FIRST NAME "RENE" POINTS ONE WAY BUT IN THE PAPERS RESPONSE THEY SAY "HIS" VIEWS.

BUT HIDDING UNDER THE 1ST AMENDMENT ,WHICH IS A FREEDOM TILLMAN DIED FOR IS

<img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle>!!!!!!!!

ED HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE TOO ABOUT PR,LIVING LARGE ON US FUNDS,GET ALL THE PERKS AND THEN YAHOO'S LIKE THIS COME HERE,TAKING UP SPACE IN OUR SCHOOLS TO SPREAD THIS CRAP AND HIDE BEHIND "OUR" IST AMENDMENT JUST SHOWS YOU
THEY CAN DISH IT OUT,BUT CANT TAKE IT!!!!

PRESS TO TEST

_________________
\"Live Free Or Die\"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 20:33 
Offline

Joined: 22 Jul 2003, 08:13
Posts: 454
Send the dipshit to Iraq. Videotape his reaction to combat: cowardly cries and "I want my mama" shrieks. After that record his official apology to Mr. Tillman, Tillman's family and friends, and the U.S.

Finally deport his ass to Puerto Rico post haste.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2004, 22:47 
Offline

Joined: 20 Dec 2002, 13:59
Posts: 184
One more bad thing that comes from Massachusetts. John Kerry<img src=newicons/anim_cussing.gif border=0 align=middle>

Marge: There's someone here who I think can help you. Homer: Who, Batman? Marge: No he's a scientist. Homer: Batman's a scientist? Marge: It's not Batman!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 00:27 
Offline

Joined: 05 Oct 2002, 14:22
Posts: 5353
Location: Missouri
it's 1:30 AM and I still cant get in.

"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell

Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel !
<img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0>

_________________
The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 05:46 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2002, 10:29
Posts: 5935
Location: S of St Louis but in IL
Sounds like the Cardinal's management have the right idea, though.

"Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles

_________________
\"Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.\"
- Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 06:11 
Offline
WT Game Warden
User avatar

Joined: 27 May 2003, 18:48
Posts: 2449
Location: Still fighting the indians in Western Massachusetts
One of you clowns that knows how to use a computer go to the Springfield Republican for today and post the front page article. Seems like we got the hose beast on the run boys ! She is in hiding........fearing for her bloody life she is. People all over the country threatening to put her down like a rabid she-dog !


"Hit first, hit hard and keep hitting !" Admiral Sir Jacky Fisher

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

_________________
YGBSM !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 07:26 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2002, 10:29
Posts: 5935
Location: S of St Louis but in IL
So, this makes me a clown?!<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>




AMHERST - A University of Massachusetts student is in hiding after reportedly receiving death threats stemming from a column he wrote in Wednesday's Daily Collegian.


Rene L. Gonzalez's column in the campus newspaper portrayed former National Football League player Pat Tillman, killed in battle last week, as "an idiot" for leaving football to join the Army Rangers.


Gonzalez's column said Tillman was not a hero but a fool for joining the elite Rangers and, consequently, getting shot and killed April 22 in Afghanistan.


The column has sparked a national outcry and triggered sharp criticism, including from the Massachusetts Senate, the university's president and the campus community.


Yesterday, in a brief e-mail to a television reporter from CBS affiliate WBZ-TV in Boston, Gonzalez, 25, apologized to Tillman's family, but declined to be interviewed. Gonzalez has also not responded to The Republican's requests for comment.


"I felt that his celebrity had been a factor in American society calling him a 'hero,' and I felt American society had arrived at that conclusion without much thinking, but rather as some sort of patriotic 'knee-jerk' into hero worship," Gonzalez wrote in the e-mail. "That was my point. I did it (admittedly) in such an insensitive way, that the article was not worth publishing."


Dan Lamothe, the Collegian's managing editor, said yesterday that Gonzalez told the paper's staff that he had received death threats Wednesday night. The staff has not heard from Gonzalez since.


Amherst Police Lt. Scott P. Livingstone said a member of Gonzalez's family talked to officers yesterday about the threats, but did not file a formal complaint.


The state Senate yesterday approved a resolution of condemnation, with one member, Sen. Robert Hedlund, R-Weymouth, calling Gonzalez a "nitwit."


University President Jack M. Wilson called Gonzalez's opinion column "a disgusting, arrogant and intellectually immature attack on a human being who died in service to his country."


"We are fortunate that so many people like Pat Tillman have made the sacrifices necessary to protect the free speech rights of Mr. Gonzalez, myself and our fellow citizens," said Wilson yesterday in his prepared statement.


The University's Student Government Association President, Jared Nokes, has also called for the resignation of Gonzalez from his position in the Office of African, Latino, Asian, and Native American Affairs at the Amherst campus. That office is funded primarily by the association.


Safety Pat Tillman turned down a $3.6 million contract playing with the Arizona Cardinals in 2002 to enlist with the Army. Tillman was promoted posthumously from specialist to corporal.


Gonzalez, a graduate student studying for a doctorate in political science, denounced Tillman in his column, which ran next to another student-written column praising Tillman as a hero.


Gonzalez's piece likened Tillman to a romantic Rambo.


"They should call Pat Tillman's army life "Rambo 4: Rambo Attempts to Strike Back at his former Rambo 3 Taliban Friends, and Gets Killed," wrote Gonzalez.


Americans, he wrote, can't admit the "stupidity of the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars."


"This was a "G.I. Joe" guy who got what was coming to him. That was not heroism, it was prophetic idiocy," Gonzalez wrote.


Gonzalez's small family home at The Hollow in Amherst was silent yesterday, with duct tape covering the house number in an apparent effort to deter the media. No one was home.


Gonzalez's next-door neighbor, Mary Rives, characterized him as a liberal and active student politician, with "politically progressive" views. He had been active in the campaign to stop bomb testing on Vieques Island in the family's native Puerto Rico, she said.


Gonzalez is also a musician whose at-home jam sessions with his father and brother often caught her attention, Rives said.


"I can't defend the lack of consideration he gave (the Tillman family). I would have preferred (Gonzalez) deliver his message in a more sensitive way," said Rives.


But the right to free speech is paramount, she said. The national furor over Gonzalez's column is really a reflection of the often blindly pro-military attitude adopted by Americans after the Sept. 11 attacks, she noted.


The Collegian newsroom was flooded with calls and Internet postings yesterday. So many people were accessing the server that it shut down, said Lamothe and Sports Editor Andrew S. Merritt.


"We've been getting hate mail in the sports (e-mail) account," he said.


Merritt and the paper's editorial board wrote a response to the brouhaha in yesterday's edition.


While the paper, which is financially independent of the university system, may not endorse Gonzalez's views, its pages remain a place for students to express their constitutional right to free speech, said the editorial.

Material from the Associated Press was used in this story.

BUSTED! That's right, turkey, back peddle as fast as you can...CYA, idiot!
<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles

Edited by - 30mike-mike on Apr 30 2004 06:29 AM

_________________
\"Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.\"
- Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 08:46 
I STILL want an apology from that damned rag of a paper.



"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."

Kipling-


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 08:57 
Guess who....

<img src="http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=457&stc=1" border=0>

Well HELLO THERE Rene' Gonzalez. :)



"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."

Kipling-


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 09:02 
Offline

Joined: 05 Jan 2003, 08:17
Posts: 305
Location: Holyoke Massachusetts
Hey Hawg 166 I dont think that the E8 lassie in the docks or the E9 in the clinic or the other one in building one share your same feelng's about a couple of those top 10 reason's<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle>

"GLAD TO HAVE BEEN THERE AND HAVE BEEN PROUD TO HAVE SERVERED"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 09:29 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: 17 Jun 2002, 10:29
Posts: 5935
Location: S of St Louis but in IL
Well ain't he just the cutest little thang! Could probably find a burqa to match his tie...the Afghans are big on that shade of blue.<img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles

_________________
\"Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.\"
- Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 11:40 
Offline
WT Game Warden
User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2003, 08:32
Posts: 1097
He has to many teeth... I think a few of them should be removed.

You look as lost as a bastard child on Fathers day.

_________________
\"One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up\"
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 14:46 
Offline
WT Game Warden
User avatar

Joined: 17 Oct 2002, 11:23
Posts: 2278
Location: Pennsylvania
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
One of you clowns that knows how to use a computer go to the Springfield Republican for today and post the front page article. Seems like we got the hose beast on the run boys ! She is in hiding........fearing for her bloody life she is. People all over the country threatening to put her down like a rabid she-dog !


"Hit first, hit hard and keep hitting !" Admiral Sir Jacky Fisher

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

There seems to be some confusion over Rene being a he or a she. How about labeling it an "it"?

"Sure, stop here. This is the right place for our foul, nihilistic mood. No place could be better. Let's all riverdance. I can be lord of the motherless dance. I'm a Mick. Bite me"

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 21:18 
Offline
Warthog VFW
User avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2002, 14:02
Posts: 6162
Location: IL
WELL "IT" IS POLITICALLY AGGRESSIVE IN "ITS" VIEWS,

WAY TO GO!!!!! YOU SHOULD GET A "A" FOR REALLY BRINGING OUT "AGGRESSIVE VIEWS"!!!!

PRESS TO TEST

_________________
\"Live Free Or Die\"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 21:21 
Offline

Joined: 23 Oct 2002, 20:45
Posts: 2802
<img src="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/US/04/30/tillman/vert.tillman.ap.jpg" border=0>

Army awards Tillman posthumous Silver Star
Ex-NFL player died last week in Afghanistan

Friday, April 30, 2004 Posted: 8:54 PM EDT (0054 GMT)

Pat Tillman, shown in this 2003 photograph, was killed April 22 in Afghanistan.

RELATED
Sports editor: Tillman true to his values
The Army always notes that rank and promotion are not a reward of what was done well, but a recognition that you have the potential to do more. This promotion is essentially saying he would have been a fine leader

(CNN) -- A Silver Star has been awarded posthumously to Cpl. Pat Tillman, the former football player who died last week after returning to an ambush to save the remainder of his platoon, Army Special Operations Command said Friday.

Tillman was killed while performing his duty "without regard to his personal safety," the Army said in a statement.

Tillman left behind his NFL career as a safety with the Arizona Cardinals to join the Army after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

He served as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan.

He was shot and killed April 22 during a ground convoy assault not far from Khowst, Afghanistan, near the eastern border with Pakistan.

Al Qaeda remnants are thought to be holed up along the border region.

The Army gave the following account of Tillman's actions:

"Tillman's platoon was split into two sections. Tillman was the team leader of the lead section when the trail section began receiving suppressive mortar and small-arms fire. ... [The] cavernous terrain made it extremely difficult to target enemy positions, and there was no room for the trail element to maneuver out of the kill zone.

Even though his element was out of the area that had come under fire, Tillman "ordered his team to dismount and maneuvered his team up a hill toward the enemy's location," the Army said.

During the battle, he issued "fire commands to take the fight to the enemy on the dominating high ground," the statement continued.

"Only after his team engaged the well-armed enemy did it appear their fires diminished."

Because of Tillman's leadership and his team's efforts, the trail section under fire "was able to maneuver through the ambush to positions of safety without a single casualty," the Army said.

Tillman was a member of A Company, 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment based at Fort Lewis, Washington.

He was promoted posthumously from specialist to corporal, an Army spokeswoman told The Associated Press on Thursday.

"The Army always notes that rank and promotion are not a reward of what was done well, but a recognition that you have the potential to do more," Army spokeswoman Martha Rudd told the AP. "This promotion is essentially saying he would have been a fine leader."

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2004, 21:29 
Offline

Joined: 23 Oct 2002, 20:45
Posts: 2802
Pats baby brother Kevin left his Minor League baseball career to join the Army and to become a Ranger. He knew the glory of being a gifted athlete, the pride of having an All Pro/NFL franchise player big brother, and the unique and curious situation of having that same NFL athlete big brother put his career on hold to join him in his selfless and patriotic endeavor.

He got to train and suffer along side his big brother, and eventually went to war in Afghanistan with his big brother.
And now he is saddled with the task of accompanying his big brothers body home for the funeral.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

Edited by - mrmudd on Apr 30 2004 8:37 PM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 01 May 2004, 02:22 
Offline

Joined: 23 Oct 2002, 20:45
Posts: 2802
UMass president criticizes student's column on felled soldier

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>UMass president Jack Wilson issued a statement saying Rene Gonzalez' comments in The Daily Collegian "are a disgusting, arrogant and intellectually immature attack on a human being who died in service to his country."<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/got ... ecap%2Ehtm

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 01 May 2004, 08:31 
It's good to see there's still some semblance of decency in our universitys.

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."

Kipling-


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 01 May 2004, 09:26 
Offline

Joined: 12 Oct 2002, 11:09
Posts: 2857
I bet the editor of the paper really did not like this guy, and wanted put virtual kick me sign on his back by publishing this trash for him.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 01 May 2004, 09:27 
Offline

Joined: 12 Oct 2002, 11:09
Posts: 2857
Just one thought I can see his firt job interview, sir we have checked your references and according to state proclomation your a nitwit. Now why in the hell would we trust you with a million dollar account.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 01 May 2004, 09:43 
Offline

Joined: 23 Oct 2002, 20:45
Posts: 2802
I dont think it is that Matt.

You must understand that it is " a credible belief system" system to those that are not affiliated with the military and are raised in the belief that one is not to waste their life. When the topic of Combat and Veteren service is approached. Their one thought is. "I dont want to die or get shot"

Non of us raise our children to jump in the path of harm. We want them to grow and aspire for great things and be productive with their life.

That is no differnt from the veterens, non of us want to eather. I am a patriotic person and will/have fought and defended my Countries Global defense policies. But the thought process still applies. Why go to iraq and die when i could make a bazzillion dollars.

The problem with the kids statement was that he Disrespected the Honor and sacrifice of a veteren with his published "opinion" and useing the
Schools paper to do so "Slandering" the name of Deceased Veteren that was apart of lineage of what has protected his Freedom of speech.

We are a volunteer military and we have our freedom of speech.

He is free to believe whatever he wants and to express it.

They are young minds that are inexperianced with Duty and Sacrifice. they are a product of our culture and upbringing.

Hopefully a little more ethical education will take place concerning the expectations of US Citizens in the learning centers.

The same reason as youth we placed our right hand over our hearts and said the "pledge of allegiance"

Free agency is a the right to make choices. Accountability is accepting the consequences.

He and the university as well as the rest of america is experiancing that right now.

Hopefully more veterens will express their opinions and help to enforce our way of life as it should be concerning Selfless service to our freedoms.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 04 May 2004, 15:30 
Offline

Joined: 01 May 2004, 18:04
Posts: 132
Location: Louisiana
Service before self. That is my motto. Pat Tillman served his country well and payed the ultimate sacrifice. He is a true hero in my book... God bless him and his family.No matter what anybody says that is an American Hero. <img src=newicons/smiley_salute.gif border=0 align=middle>


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group