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| Author: | boomer [ 21 Mar 2003, 21:18 ] |
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and of course by "pukes" I mean fine upstanding members of the brotherhood oficianadoes/mavens of rapidly expanding gasses <no frag I> some of those blasts in Bagdead(sic) looked AWFULLY huge, is the MOAB ready to go yet? or do you guys think they were 2000lbders? "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | M&M [ 21 Mar 2003, 21:42 ] |
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I think that the night made the blast effect more noticeable. From what I could gather the explosions they got good footage of was JDAM's dropped from a B-2. "face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!" |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 21 Mar 2003, 22:45 ] |
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Those were 2000lb er's. I can tell because of the flash and the brisance factor. High explosives have shattering effects where as FAE(MOAB) have a pushing effect, good for caves. I don't know what the explosive fill was, it most likely was not tritonal-It was way more powerful. It could've been an H-6 or the new AFX-757 fill. I'm guessing the blast radiuses of the 2000lb'ers were 200'. They practically lit up the sky. The Tomahawk has only a 1000lb warhead but a very powerful explosive(PBXN-109)- check out my avatar, that's a Tomahawk detonation. I have to guess sometimes because when you ask detailed questions about explosives, people tend to look at you funny. As for the MOAB being operational? If they can rush the GBU-28 program successfully then they can surely get the MOAB of the ground! ...( Then back onto the ground in a detonating fashion<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>) Edited by - Tritonal on Mar 21 2003 9:46 PM |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 21 Mar 2003, 23:28 ] |
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The USAF AGM-86B CALCM has a 2000lb penetration warhead, and could easily account for explosions of the magnitude seen. In any case, it was one hell of a show. "We shall leave no man behind" |
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| Author: | boomer [ 22 Mar 2003, 00:20 ] |
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thanks guys, the new fill for ALCM is supposed to EQ 3000lb of conventional fill. I believe they also have a penetrator warhead for ALCM cause I've seen pics of it diving straight down into the ground, PURE vert!! "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 22 Mar 2003, 04:56 ] |
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I've seen the footage too Boomer-Amazing Are you saying that it equals a 3000lb TNT fill because that's the unit to measure blast effectiveness. The AGM-68C=3,250lbs Then you have to account for motor, body, penetrator, rocket fuel, guidance system, etc. The explosive fill is about 1/4, 1/2 of the overall weight. But man, it packs a punch! |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 22 Mar 2003, 10:13 ] |
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The warhead IS a 2000lb penetrator. "We shall leave no man behind" |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 22 Mar 2003, 17:56 ] |
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One's 2000lb one is 3000lb. But, I don't think they use the 3000lb anymore. I'm also guessing they will incorporate the AUP as well. The Hog's finally being used<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>. But that's for another section. Edited by - Tritonal on Mar 22 2003 4:57 PM |
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| Author: | boomer [ 22 Mar 2003, 21:28 ] |
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the B-2s are back home, didnt drop any MOABs just JDAMs <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 22 Mar 2003, 22:30 ] |
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MOABS are for the Field. When the warhead gets changed to a high explosive penatrator that's <i>all</i> for Baghdad. Edited by - Tritonal on Mar 22 2003 9:31 PM |
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