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| Author: | mattlott [ 24 Apr 2003, 15:30 ] |
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Guys I pray that you guys do not have to go into another battle this soon. BUT it think North Korea is going to attempt something. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85033,00.html North Korea Admits It Has Nukes Thursday, April 24, 2003 WASHINGTON — North Korea has nuclear weapons and is prepared to prove it, the Communist nation told the United States during talks in Beijing, a senior Defense official and State Department sources told Fox News Thursday. The Defense official described the tone of the talks as "extremely bad." According to the sources, North Korea (search) said: 1) That it has successfully reprocessed almost all of its 8,000 spent fuel rods. U.S. intelligence is very skeptical of this claim, the sources said. 2) That it already has built nuclear weapons, and, 3) That whether they use the weapons, test the weapons or export the weapons "depends on [America's] next step." North Korea also demanded that the U.S. meet with its envoys in bilateral talks, and the Chinese reportedly appealed to the U.S. to consider this as a way to help negotiations along. Assistant Secretary of State Jim Kelly passed the demand along to Washington, and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice rejected it, saying it is not President Bush's policy to hold direct talks with North Korea. Rice personally called the Chinese ambassador to convey that, the sources said. A U.S. official told the Associated Press that North Korea may conduct a test of its weapons, although there are no indications a test is imminent. He acknowledged that preparations for an underground test could be concealed. According to the official, a North Korean nuclear detonation would deplete by half their estimated stockpile of two weapons. "They said what we always knew -- that they do have weapons," another source told Reuters. "That doesn't shock us. We've been saying that. Now they said it." In Washington, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said: "It's not a surprise for them to say something like that." The talks in Beijing ended with State Department officials saying it was uncertain whether discussions on Pyongyang's nuclear program would continue, although they denied reports that the talks had broken down. Before the start of the second day's meeting, North Korea accused the United States of leading the region toward war, an apparent attempt by the communist nation to increase pressure on negotiators, according to the U.S. officials. Earlier, Secretary of State Colin Powell had told a gathering of experts from the Asia-Pacific region that the talks, involving the United States, North Korea and China, had concluded, leaving the impression there would not be a third day of discussions on Friday. Powell expressed hope that South Korea and Japan would be able to participate "when and if" there is another round of talks. He added: "North Korea should not leave the meetings having the slightest impression that they might force us to make a concession we would not otherwise make." In Beijing, the chief U.S. negotiator, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly, declined to answer questions upon returning to his hotel in the afternoon, saying only that the sides "had talks." Kelly was to fly to Seoul on Friday to meet with South Korean officials. North Korea continued to try to ratchet up the pressure and is believed to want economic aid in exchange for concessions. Its leaders are outraged over U.S. moves to cut off oil shipments because of its suspected nuclear weapons program, and fears it is next on Washington's list for military action. "The situation on the Korean Peninsula is so tense that a war may break out any moment due to the U.S. moves," the North's KCNA news agency. It said relations with the United States had hit "rock bottom" because President Bush named North Korea as part of an "axis of evil," along with Iran and Iraq. KCNA said the war in Iraq had shown the only way for a country to protect itself was to have a strong military deterrent. Officials from Seoul and Washington say the swift U.S.-led victory in Iraq prompted North Korea to agree to the nuclear talks. The North's Korea People's Army vowed to "put all people under arms and turn the whole country into a fortress" and urged its soldiers to become "human bombs and fighters ready to blow up themselves" to protect leader Kim Jong Il (search). "If the U.S. imperialists and their followers intrude into even an inch of the inviolable sky, land and sea of the (North) ... the (army) will deal merciless deadly blows at the aggressors," North Korean Defense Minister Kim Il Chol was quoted as saying by KCNA. Still, North Korea said it was ready to settle the dispute over its suspected nuclear weapons programs and that the "master key" for successful talks was for the United States to drop its hostile policy toward Pyongyang. Late Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing and Secretary of State Colin Powell talked by phone and agreed that the Beijing talks were beneficial, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported. The U.S. Embassy and Chinese Foreign Ministry said they had no details of Thursday's discussions. But ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said the talks were "conducive to mutual understanding and finding ways to resolve the North Korean nuclear question peacefully." North Korea and China fought against the United States in the 1950-53 Korean War, which ended without a peace treaty. North Korea and Washington have no formal relations and are still technically at war. In a likely reference to North Korea's demand for a nonaggression treaty with Washington, KCNA said: "The U.S. should settle the talks from a sincere stand and strive to settle the essential issue." Washington has refused to offer a formal treaty but says it would consider some sort of written assurance. China, the North's ally and major aid donor, nevertheless says it doesn't want Pyongyang to acquire nuclear weapons and has appealed for a negotiated settlement to the crisis. The talks are being led by Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and Ri Gun, deputy director of American affairs for North Korea's Foreign Ministry. China's delegation is led by Fu Ying, director general of the Asian Affairs Department of its Foreign Ministry. The United States hopes eventually to include Japan and South Korea in the talks. Kelly briefed South Korean and Japanese diplomats in Beijing following Wednesday's discussions, the U.S. Embassy said. He is scheduled to visit Seoul for meetings immediately after the Beijing talks. Washington says the North revealed during a visit by Kelly to Pyongyang in October that it was trying to develop nuclear weapons in violation of a 1994 pledge. The North has disputed the U.S. claim. The North likely wants aid for its economy, which has been crippled by the loss of Soviet subsidies and years of drought and mismanagement. Since the latest nuclear tensions erupted, Pyongyang has become the first country to withdraw from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (search) and restarted a plutonium-producing reactor. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Advertise on FOXNews.com Jobs at FOX News Channel. Internships at FOX News Channel. Terms of use. Privacy Statement. For FOXNews.com comments write to foxnewsonline@foxnews.com; For FOX News Channel comments write to comments@foxnews.com © Associated Press. All rights reserved. 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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 24 Apr 2003, 19:32 ] |
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NORTH KOREA IS PLAYING A DANGEROUS GAME, NOW WHERE IS THE UN? OH THATS RIGHT,THEIR HELPING THE FRENCH,GERMANS AND RUSSIANS FEEL BETTER<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> I SAY THEIR BLUFFING,THE PRC SURE AND THE HELL DONT WANT RADIOACTIVE CLOUDS BLOWING OVER THE MAINLAND.I THINK THE PRC WILL STEP IN TO SHUT THEM UP WHEN THE US CALLS THE BLUFF PRESS TO TEST |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 24 Apr 2003, 22:17 ] |
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Now if the DPRK isn't a clear and present danger, there is no such thing. We should pull the US Army and USAF out of the South and acquint Kim Il Dork with our Nimitz class carriers. See if he is so beligerent after he has six carriers pounding his butt for six months....if he lives through it. "I hate Illinois Nazi's" |
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| Author: | JSF [ 24 Apr 2003, 22:32 ] |
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north korea is indeed playing avery dangeroius game vader: Obi-wan never told you what happend to your father luke:he told me enough, he told me you killed him vader: no luke i am yor father |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 25 Apr 2003, 01:38 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>We should pull the US Army and USAF out of the South... <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I read a blurb that Rumsfeld was thinking of doing that same thing. IMO-that's a smart move. If war does come then wait till 2004; we might have our ABM systems operational. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 25 Apr 2003, 09:25 ] |
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Yeah, and they might have ICBM's operational... I would prefer we go now...while they still have zero capability of hitting CONUS directly. Let the South take their chances with PAC3 Patriots. "I hate Illinois Nazi's" |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 25 Apr 2003, 10:51 ] |
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you know the first time the US troops start moving out of the south enmass i think there will be collective heart attacks nation wide. Maybe they need a reality check, and not our protective blanket to take for granted. |
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| Author: | tritonal [ 25 Apr 2003, 11:21 ] |
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I'm not worried. Ever buy something that's "made in Korea" and works? The PRK state they have 1/2 a million artillery pieces set up against SK. 37,000 of our troops would be a road block for a standing army of 1.2 million (Although they probably have stiff Warsaw Pact tactics). Get them out of harm's way and make the SK piss themselves. I also think if we target the operational reactors the possiblity of multiple Chernobyls might be possible. Edited by - Tritonal on Apr 25 2003 10:22 AM |
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