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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2003, 15:14 
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You have to like Europe, after two world wars and countless other bullshit (eg) the Balkans. they have the ardacity to do this...They seem to forget that they created Israel by large part...They also seem to forget that we liberated Europe, not once but twice...



BRUSSELS (AFP) - The European Union (news - web sites) scrambled to contain the fallout from a public opinion poll that -- to Israel's fury -- labelled the Jewish state the biggest threat to world peace.


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The United States was just behind Israel in the global danger league, in joint second place with North Korea (news - web sites) and Iran, according to the "Eurobarometer" poll requested by the European Commission (news - web sites).


The results were part of a survey last month on Europeans' attitudes in the aftermath of the Iraq (news - web sites) war, which also found that more than two-thirds of EU citizens think that the US-led war was wrong.


The Israeli embassy in Brussels voiced outrage at the findings, which said that 59 percent of Europeans see Israel as a threat to world peace.


"Europeans seem blind to Israeli victims and suffering. Instead, they have put the Jewish state below the level of the worst pariah state and terror organizations," it said in a statement.


"We are not only sad but outraged. Not at European citizens, but at those who are responsible for forming public opinion," the embassy added.


"Israel's desperate struggle for peace and security for its people has been distorted beyond recognition in often one-sided and emotionally charged media coverage."


The poll had already prompted angry reactions after details were leaked by the Spanish daily El Pais last week.


The Israeli ambassador to Italy -- which currently holds the EU presidency -- told the daily Il Messagero Monday that the poll could have significant diplomatic consequences.


"It seems to me that the only aim of this poll was to denigrate Israel at a very delicate time, and I think it will it much more difficult for Europe to fulfill its ambition to play a part in the peace process," said Ehud Gol.


The EU's Italian presidency tried to play down the results, insisting they did not reflect the official EU position.


"The result of the survey, based on an ambiguous question, does not reflect the position of the European Union which has been voiced on numerous occasions," Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said in a statement.


"The EU is all the more annoyed since it is fully aware that the Israeli population is hit hard by terrorism," it said, criticising the "false signal" that the survey sent out.


According to the Eurobarometer poll, based on interviews with 500 people in each of the 15 EU states, some 59 percent of Europeans replied "yes" when asked whether or not Israel presents a threat to peace in the world.


A total of 53 percent said Iran, North Korea and the United States pose a threat, followed by 52 percent for Iraq, 50 percent for Afghanistan (news - web sites) and 48 percent for Pakistan.


Countries lower down the list included Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, China, India, Russia and Somalia. The EU itself was described as a threat by eight percent of respondents.


The EU survey was presented in the form of a list of 15 countries, from which some 7,515 respondents were asked to say which ones they thought pose a threat to world peace.





Commission spokesman Gerassimos Thomas was repeatedly asked why the Palestinian territories were not included, while for example the survey asked Europeans about the threat from Somalia. "It is not a country," he replied when pressed over the Palestinians.

The European Commission said Israel's anger was "legitimate" but refused to get drawn into whether the poll findings were valid.

"I think the (Israeli) reaction was a very legitimate reaction," the spokesman for the EU's executive arm told reporters.

But he added: "It is not our task to interpret each and every survey. We don't place excessive emphasis on one poll result."


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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2003, 17:07 
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F&*k Europe.....

Overkill??? I'd kill a fly with a howitzer if I had one.

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I hate to say it too but I think the time is well nigh that we need to put the smack down on Europe. I mean with the exception of the Hungarians and the Brits. Budapest is my favorite European city and I like the Beatles.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Well, fine, the US needs to pull out of Europe, let Russia go back to its communist self, and they can bring Marxism to all of Europe by the gun. Screw'em, maybe next time we'll have enough sense to let them burn.

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lololol I am NOT surprised by this at ALL, Europe has always been mostly pacifists, they dont want right vs wrong they want quiet time to sip thier wine and drink thier coffee. To them the Isrealis are the troublemakers because they wont die quietly without disturbing the Euro nappy time, and the U.S.? well we're just always dustin up something right?

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Yep, Europe is full of pacifists.

They have forgotten that the USA has pulled their ass out of the fire twice.

They love taking what they think is the moral high ground and saying force is bad and then come squealing for help when things go bad.

They are a total waste of space (except for the bits of Germany that makes Audis and Porsches) and as far as I’m concerned you can turn the whole place into the worlds largest glass floored self-illuminating car park.


But remember the vast majority, at the last count 70%, of Brits think this way too.

We’re not part of Europe and have spent most of our history fighting bits of it. In fact some of our football supporters are still carrying on this fine tradition.

We are glad we’ve got the channel separating us, it’s just a shame it’s not wider, like 3000 miles wider…

And we’re bloody glad the prevailing Atlantic winds blow the stink towards Russia.



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Poll by the "European Commission"??
I highly doubt these numbers are correct.
Polls always were and always will be a tool for politics.

I discussed these topics with a lot of people. yes of course there are people who think the war was wrong. But many people here supported the u.s., too!

BTW whats the "poll" for the support of Bush´s politics in the US now???
I don´t think its right just to say "f*$k europe"

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
I don´t think its right just to say "f*$k europe"
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Sorry Homer it was a knee jerk reaction... I like some Europeans (you for instance) and most people from the UK.... its EUROPE as it presents itself that I dislike.... I have yet to meet a Frenchman I liked though.

Overkill??? I'd kill a fly with a howitzer if I had one.

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no problem, stinger. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
Somehow I can understand "the f%&k Europe"-attitude...
I don´t like many things which are going on over her, either!






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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2003, 13:23 
I actually once met a Frenchman that i did like(10th grade foriegn exchange student)- but i didn't realize i liked him until after i'd kicked his ass for being an arrogant smart mouth. I found him much more agreeable after that.

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Did he carry a white flag around with him after that too? plant trees so that you could walk in the shade? :)

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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2003, 14:12 
No, but he stayed close at hand whenever i was around.

He made LOTS of enemies in his first week at school.

Yours truly being one of the 'cool kids' kept him out of trouble whenever he was around.

Why did i keep him around?

The chix really dug him, lol. ;)

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lmao to funny...

We had a french kid when I was in the 5th grade...chics dug him to, but being from an agricultural rural area, with lots of hispanics, the mexican kids were always kicking his ass...I dunno, maybe Pancho Villa had issues with the French as well.





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LOL!

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