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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2004, 06:02 
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/02/ ... index.html

MECCA, Saudi Arabia (CNN) -- A stampede Sunday morning killed 244 Muslim pilgrims and injured another 244 at a stone-throwing ritual which has been the source of deadly tramplings in the past, according to Saudi's health minister.

The incident happened around 9 a.m. (0600 GMT) during the annual Hajj pilgrimage. The health minister said the stampede lasted for about 27 minutes before the crowd was brought under control. The stoning ritual has since resumed.

The pilgrims traveled from the Muslim holy city of Mecca to Mina (prono: MINNA) to cast small pebbles at three columns of stone that symbolize the devil.

An estimated 2 million pilgrims are attending this year's Hajj.

Last year, 36 pilgrims were trampled to death, most of them en route to the devil stoning ritual.

In 2001, a stampede at the same ritual killed 35.

Muslims across the globe make the annual Hajj pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, where they worship at Islam's holiest sites. The five-day journey -- which every adult Muslim must take at least once if possible -- began Jan. 31.

The gathering of millions is often the scene of deadly stampedes and other violence.

The most deadly Hajj-related incident was a 1990 stampede in which 1,426 pilgrims were killed.

Here is a breakdown of other violent incidents at the annual Muslim pilgrimage:

1998 - 180 people died in a stampede near Mecca at the end of the Hajj;

1997 - A fire in Mina tore through the sprawling, overcrowded tent city , trapping and killing more than 340 pilgrims and injuring 1,500;

1994 - a stampede kills 270 pilgrims;

1991 - a chartered airliner carrying pilgrims home to Nigeria crashed, killing 261;

1991 - a plane crash in northern Saudi Arabia killed 91 Senegalese soldiers returning from a trip to Mecca which had been a reward for their service in the U.S.-led coalition that drove Iraqi forces from Kuwait in the Gulf War a month earlier;

1989 - bombs exploded near the Grand Mosque in Mecca, killing one pilgrim and wounding 16 others;

1987 - some 400 people, mainly Iranian Shi'ite pilgrims, were killed in clashes with Saudi security forces during anti-Western protests in Mecca.




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Maybe there's something to this trend. Something like DON'T BE A MUSLIM FANATIC!!!

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I know this isn't going to fall on the WT "party line," but this article didn't say anything about them being fanatical. This isn't really any different from all the people who clamor to see the Pope when he visits, or who travel to the Vatican to see him there. If they are doing anything really wrong, they are not using proper crowd control measures.

To be honest, if 2 million people are all traveling to the same place at the same time, and they have only one trampling and only that many people are killed and injured, they're doing pretty good. Give the blanket hatred a rest for once, Ben.


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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2004, 11:30 
Reminds me of the running of the bulls.

Some traditions are really stupid.

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hey poke then you have never seen a Mardi Gras parade. We dont trample and have a good time here. But we are all infidels. Bare breasted women, wine, beer, the rest is not suitable for a family site. lol


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This is a family site?

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I'm with Poke on this one.

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I'm with Poke on this one.

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The incident involving the bomb blasts are iffy at least. But the rest seemed innocent...and in the Seneglalese Soldiers case. Tragic.

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