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PostPosted: 16 Feb 2004, 11:29 
We all know how the media likes to make heros so it can destroy them publicly.

Guess who the next target is?

FDNY.

By MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - It was a love affair born of tragedy. For more than two years after the World Trade Center attack, New York City firefighters could do no wrong.


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New Yorkers flooded their heroes with homemade cookies and cash donations, gave them rousing ovations in restaurants, even blockaded neighborhood firehouses the city wanted to close.


But firefighters' golden public image has been tarnished in recent months by allegations of on-duty drinking, firehouse brawling, marital infidelity and drug abuse.


One firefighter smashed another in the face with a metal chair after drinking on New Year's Eve at their Staten Island firehouse. A surprise raid on an East Harlem firehouse found beer and liquor in a locker and cocaine in two firefighters' systems.


A captain and a lieutenant were caught drinking beer in uniform in a karaoke bar they were supposed to be inspecting. A firefighter who posed for the fire department's beefcake charity calendar is facing a departmental steroid charge. He's also moonlighting as a stripper.


"We have set a high standard for ourselves and when there's a couple incidents it's going to make a big splash," said Sal Sodano, a retired fire lieutenant.


Some firefighters say lingering trauma from the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, may be causing some of the trouble. More than 7,000 members of the 11,500-member department have gone to the FDNY's counseling unit for treatment of anxiety, depression and other problems.


"I think there's much more emotion going on in the fire service than before 9-11, and God knows how it comes out," retired deputy chief Vincent Dunn said.


Others say a post 9-11 exodus of experienced officers has caused a lapse in discipline. More than 2,300 firefighters and officers have retired since the World Trade Center attack, draining the ranks of the most experienced.


Still, many of those caught up in recent scandals are senior officers, and some in the department believe the years of adulation may have created a feeling of being above the law and department rules.


And then there are those who call the bad headlines the inevitable comedown from the outpouring of affection that followed the deaths of 343 FDNY members in the trade center's collapse.


"We became like icons and folk heroes and at some point the tide turns against you," said Peter Gorman, president of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association. "When the pedestal is that high there's a long way to fall."


The slew of tawdry headlines began with the revelation that firefighters assigned to counsel the families of fallen comrades were leaving their wives to take up with trade center widows. The fire department says it knows of three such relationships, although media reports said as many as a dozen developed.


On New Year's Eve, according to police and fire department accounts, firefighter Michael Silvestri left colleague Robert Walsh with severe facial injuries by hitting him with a metal chair after alcohol-fueled taunting about each other's work habits and sexual orientation.


Colleagues tried to cover up the incident, telling doctors that Walsh had fallen down some stairs. The cover-up quickly fell apart and all 50 members of the firehouse, nicknamed "Southern Comfort" for its southern Staten Island location and low number of fires, were reassigned to other companies.


A captain involved in the incident was demoted, fined $90,000 and forced out of the department.


Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta has begun a crackdown on drinking, long an open secret in the tight-knit culture of the New York City firehouse.





On Jan. 18, fire department investigators raided the East Harlem home of Engine Company 53 and Ladder Company 43 and found beer and liquor inside a locker. The department tested the companies for drugs and alcohol and two firefighters' samples showed up positive for cocaine.

"These are by and large isolated cases that do not reflect on the whole department," department spokesman Frank Gribbon said. "There are more than 11,500 firefighters and fire officers who every day do an extraordinary job for the people ... Ultimately that is the true public perception of what firefighters do."

The department was concerned enough, however, that Scoppetta turned a normally laudatory promotion ceremony address late last month into a stern reiteration of the department's zero-tolerance policy for drugs and alcohol, reminding a new class of lieutenants of their responsibility to enforce it.

Two days later, a passer-by spotted a veteran captain and lieutenant drinking in a karaoke bar and called 911. According to some reports, the officers had been entertaining patrons with a rendition of "Born to Run."

"The culture we celebrate certainly does have its dark side," said Terry Golway, author of "So Others Might Live: A History of New York's Bravest."

"Two and a half years after 9-11, maybe we are more willing to take a realistic look at firehouse culture and what goes on in the department," Golway said. "They are not immune from criticism anymore."

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So the Media now wants to villify the FDNY? Everyone's entitled to thier opinion. New York Firefighters will still risk thier own lives to save a journalist trapped in a burning house.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>New York Firefighters will still risk thier own lives to save a journalist trapped in a burning house.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Yep... then said journalist will turn around and libel/slander the Fire Department for not responding quickly enough, or for manhandling him or something.

The selfish, ungrateful and downright despicable nature of some people just never ceases to amaze me. For example, the National Enquirer has a cover-story right now on that girl that got kidnapped and murdered in Florida (Florida? I think?). Something about what made the killer snap. Personally, if I were the parents I'd be suing the living shit outta the Enquirer.

But alas, I attempt to jack the thread... I'll try and steer this ship back to clear waters.

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PostPosted: 16 Feb 2004, 16:37 
Jack away.

No need for special permission from the board to talk smack about reporters, lawyers, or leftists. ;)

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about this firefighter stuff in that article. Yeah it's all bad, but as someone who's brother in law was a FF for like 20 years I can tell you it aint nuthin new.

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