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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2004, 16:28 
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KERRY: NO FOREIGN ENDORSEMENTS, PLEASE... Kerry Foreign Policy Advisor Rand Beers issued the following statement today: '...It is simply not appropriate for any foreign leader to endorse a candidate in America's presidential election. John Kerry does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements'...

Mr. Kim please stop reprinting my speaches in the North Korean papers, atleast until after I get elected.


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I consider myself a moderate republican, I will probably vote for Bush, just because I have always felt that once elected, and administration is ineffective unless its allowed to serve two terms. But...Kerry is no different than the rest, face it the bottom line is they are all politicians, none of them need the money. And all of them will do what it takes to get elected, if Bush was more popular abroad, he would be touting the support of the world leaders as well. And the current administration has not made the best military management decesions either.


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I CAN SAY WITH NO PROBLEM, I DONT LIKE EITHER ONE.

I'LL HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE AND HAVENT MADE UP MY MIND

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I'll have an overseas vote and I think I'll go for Bush just cause I like his outlook on Israel and the MidEast in general.

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KERRY: NO FOREIGN ENDORSEMENTS, PLEASE... Kerry Foreign Policy Advisor Rand Beers issued the following statement today: '...It is simply not appropriate for any foreign leader to endorse a candidate in America's presidential election. John Kerry does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements'...

Mr. Kim please stop reprinting my speaches in the North Korean papers, atleast until after I get elected.


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Look where Al Zawahiri's ad endorsing Kerry has currently gotten him...

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I just can't seem to deal with the fact that an adulterous weenie like Clinton can serve two terms, yet when our country is attacked by terrorists and we swiftly and violently go after those responsible (liberating an oppressed country and ridding ourselves of a foreign enemy along the way), the man in charge of said operations is looked down upon because people think he's ignorant.

You don't get elected as the governor of Texas (shut up before you make those comments, people) and then as the President of the United States if you're an idiot. Bush isn't that charismatic.

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Despite all the claims about Bush by the peacenicks. This odd hunch that thier just chicken sh*t when it comes to doing what must be done, overwhelms me.

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ITS THE "MACHINE "THAT PUTS YOU THERE.

FACE IT,WHOEVER IS PRES,THE FOLKS IN THE BACK ROOM "RUN THE SHOW".





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The lesser of two evils is Bush. I can't trust Kerry he's not telling the whole truth and he likes to talk out of both sides of his mouth. I wouldn't want to see either one in the White House but there is no libertarian candidate. Oh well.

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A vote for Kerry(or Donkey in general) is a vote for socailism...plain and simple.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'll have an overseas vote and I think I'll go for Bush just cause I like his outlook on Israel and the MidEast in general. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

BR what is an overseas vote?

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They're the votes the Dems tried to suppress in the last election. Overseas ballots and military ballots. The ones that are about 90% repub.

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Understand that Snipe, however I was under the impression BR was from Israel and not an American citizen. If you say dual citizen I will loose my mind because once you reach 18 years of age you supposeably have to choose one or the other. If you are not 18 you cant vote and if you are over 18 you had to choose. If BR is in the Isreali military I (wrongly assumed maybe) he was over 18 and was the an Isreali citizen and not an American one. Of course I could have it all wrong.

I only ask because my wife, British Citizen, has be living here in the US for the last 19 years and everytime I deal with Immigration and Naturalization I get a ton of hassle. She has lived here almost half her life and has been employed since I brought her here from England. Yet I, an American GI for 22 years, get grief from our goverment when trying to renew her stolen Green Card. Hell she is more American than the owners of the local kwik stop or most motels in this area.

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I am a dual citizen, American and Israeli. Towards the end of this year I will be enlisting in the IDF. I will also be legally old enough to vote in September, and my father who is in the US is gonna register me. I don't know anything about renouncing one country's citizenship, I know my father mother and older sister all have American and Israeli citizenship and no one has given them any hassle

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When you have dual citizenship which passport do you travel with?

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OK BR here is why I persumed the law required you to give up citizenship of one to get the other. It used to be that way. The law was changed years ago. Also there is one thing you should check up on. All Male US Citizens are required by law to register with the selective service. Check their website, its says

Quote:DUAL NATIONALS
Dual nationals of the U.S. and another country are required to register, regardless of where they live, because they are U.S. nationals.

There are exceptions but if I were you I would verify if you need to do this. Service in one country's military does not automatically exempt registering in the US selective service data base. Check it out.

See also Aliens and Dual Nationals - Liability for Service

www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm pr just google selective service


This is the info on why I thought you had to give up one for the other. The mere act of obtaining a citizenship in another country was cause for loss of US citizenship. Also the language in the oath of citizenship was construed to mean you gave up your other citizenship when the oath was taken. Also when I was stationed in England, many years ago, children of US service personnel born off base had dual citizenship until their 18th birthday and then chose one or the other. Now the law has changed.

The primary effect of recent developments in the US regarding dual citizenship has been to add the requirement that loss of citizenship can only result when the person in question intended to give up his citizenship. At one time, the mere performance of the above (or certain other) acts was enough to cause loss of US citizenship; however, the Supreme Court overturned this concept in the Afroyim and Terrazas cases, and Congress amended the law in 1986 to require that loss of citizenship would result only when a potentially "expatriating" (citizenship-losing) action was performed voluntarily and "with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality".

On 16 April 1990, the State Department adopted a new policy on dual citizenship, under which US citizens who perform one of the potentially expatriating acts listed above are normally presumed not to have done so with intent to give up US citizenship. Thus, the overwhelming majority of loss-of-citizenship cases nowadays will involve people who have explicitly indicated to US consular officials that they want to give up their US citizenship


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When I travel, it's usually to the US from Israel or vice versa, so I use both passports in tandem. US passport to enter and leave US, and Israel passport to enter and leave Israel. I don't know that I actually chose one citizenship over the other, I was born to an American dad and an Israeli mom so I immediately got both.

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That's pretty neat to be able to do that. Of course not sure either one would get you very far if you happened to be on an hi-jacked plane. Seems like sometimes it's the US and Israel against the world.

Did you check out what I said about selective service?

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I beat selective service by enlisting at age 17, lol. ;)

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What exactly is Selective Service? Is that anything like the draft? I thought they cancelled that after the Vietnam War?

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BR as an male american citizen when you reach the age of 18 you must sign up for selective service. It does not matter that you live in Isreal. Go to this website and check it out.

http://www.sss.gov/

The most important thing you should know is this:



<b>"U.S. non-citizens and dual nationals are required by law to register with the Selective Service System.* Most are also liable for induction into the U.S. Armed Forces if there is a draft. They would also be eligible for any deferments, postponements, and exemptions available to all other registrants."</b>

There are exemptions but you must make sure you qualify. This is the system the US would call upon if a draft was needed. Just because the US is now a all volunteer force does not mean you don't have to register.

This info came off of the website word for word. More info below.


<b>Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces. </b>

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PostPosted: 23 Mar 2004, 08:19 
Failure to register for selective service can land yer ass in jail BR.



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So I guess my options are pretty limited, huh?

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Oddly enough, I enlisted through the Delayed Entry Program at 17, and I still had to register for Selective Service when I turned 18, even though I was leaving for BMT less than a month after my 18th birthday. Kind screwed up, huh?

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PostPosted: 23 Mar 2004, 10:37 
Yeah it is Raven.

My recruiter told me not to worry because i'd have the legal documentation to show i'd already enlisted if i had a problem.

BR, Selective Service is MANDATORY. I'd reccomend you sign up ASAP.

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