I need to see a picture before i properly condemn it.
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| Author: | Stinger [ 14 Jun 2004, 15:26 ] |
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... &printer=1 "Army Shows 1st Uniform Redesign Since '81 1 hour, 1 minute ago Add White House - AP Cabinet & State to My Yahoo! By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer WASHINGTON - The Army revealed on Monday a redesigned combat uniform with a digital camouflage pattern that looks strikingly different from soldiers' current battle dress uniforms. It marks the first major change in the Army uniform since 1981, said Brig. Gen. James R. Moran, who modeled the uniform for reporters at the Pentagon (news - web sites). He said recruits will be issued the redesigned uniform starting October 2005, and the entire Army will be outfitted by December 2007. The uniform is being produced in a single, universal pattern to replace the two camouflage versions in current use: tan-brown for desert use and green-brown-black for woodland settings. The pattern for the new camouflage coat and trousers is a mix of light green, tan and gray. Moran said it was designed to allow soldiers to blend into urban, desert and forest environments; it is similar to the Marines' digital camouflage uniform except that it has no black in the pattern. Soldiers also will get a new, no-shine, tan combat boot, and the current black boots will be discontinued. The new uniform makes more use of Velcro, and the coat fastens in front with a zipper instead of buttons. Cuffs and pockets are fastened with Velcro, and the coat collar can be turned up and fastened Mandarin-style. The uniform is roomier and made with a no-wrinkle fabric. The coat-trousers combination costs $88, compared with $56 for the current battle dress uniform. The new uniform was designed in part to accommodate the new Interceptor body armor that soldiers are getting in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) for partial protection from bullets as large as 7.62mm. The Mandarin-style collar, for example, shields the neck from the Interceptor vest collar. Moran said the Army will offer soldiers extra protection with add-on armor for the underarm area, which is not covered with protective plates in Interceptor vests. The deltoid protection will increase the weight of the armor vests from 16 pounds to 22 pounds. About 50,000 sets of deltoid protection are to be available by the end of September. Moran said the Army is looking for ways to protect soldiers better who risk death or injury from homemade bombs in Iraq, the weapons of choice for anti-U.S. insurgents. "We have a clever enemy, an adaptable enemy," he said. " Please let this be a bad dream.... I've seen a photo on Drudge, it looks fine for urban terrain, but a soldier is going to stick out like a sore thumb in desert or forest terrain. And also it seems more like change for changes sake You look as lost as a bastard child on Fathers day. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 14 Jun 2004, 15:59 ] |
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I need to see a picture before i properly condemn it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | Type 7 [ 14 Jun 2004, 16:51 ] |
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The USAF finally convinced the US Army to follow suit in something....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 14 Jun 2004, 17:46 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The pattern for the new camouflage coat and trousers is a mix of light green, tan and gray. Moran said it was designed to allow soldiers to blend into urban, desert and forest environments; <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> For once, the Marines are the smartest ones, with a good woodland and a good desert BDU. At least the Army is getting closer to what they should be wearing, they just need to get away from the "designed for all areas and works in none" routine. Can't help but wonder how they'd screw up the kind of suit used in the "Predator" movies...How 'bout a big, flashy, clan banner the soldiers would wear in those fuedal Japanese skirmishes? <img src="http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v250/Horrido/ran_xl_03.jpg" border=0> "In this life, after a few years we are unfaithful to what we have been, to what we wished to remain immortally." --<i>Remembrance of Things Past</i> Marcel Proust |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 14 Jun 2004, 19:37 ] |
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Hrmmm, the color reminds me of the old WW II Marine uniforms from the Pacific...The ones that were faded and stood out like a sore thumb. They should just hire RealTree or MossyOak to make them a set of uniforms... "In this life, after a few years we are unfaithful to what we have been, to what we wished to remain immortally." --<i>Remembrance of Things Past</i> Marcel Proust |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 15 Jun 2004, 05:23 ] |
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I was in position, hoping the bad guys didn't know exactly where I was. I slowly reached for my pocket to get the little signal light and let my troops know I was ready and "R-I-I-I-P-P!!" Damn that velcro! "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 15 Jun 2004, 12:50 ] |
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OK, now i can properly condemn them. They're hideous. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | BenRoethig [ 15 Jun 2004, 14:38 ] |
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If they were smart, they would have adopted the Marine BDUs. What are these supposed to do. make the enemy soldiers laugh to death? The rank and name tags stick out like a sore thumb and don't get me started about that collar |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 15 Jun 2004, 15:02 ] |
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I aint laughing at noones uniforms especially when I am going to be wearing a blue and grey mall-cop uniform in the Air Force in the next couple years. By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | Stinger [ 15 Jun 2004, 15:37 ] |
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I'm not laughing, this POS is gonna filter down to the State Guard in the next couple of years, and thus I'll probly be wearing it... arghhh You look as lost as a bastard child on Fathers day. |
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| Author: | Smitty216 [ 15 Jun 2004, 17:37 ] |
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I love the butterfly collar. It'll look good when some dude is wearing it in a rap video. The velcro......30mikemike said it all there. I would guess the knee pad inserts are proactive toward promotion too.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>. And where the hell do you hide in an ash grey environment.....perhaps and old firepit. I should stop ranting because as Hawg166 said, we will be wearing our adorable blue "mall cop" uniform soon enough. At least we won't have to lie about not shining the boots on that one.<img src=newicons/Whatever_anim.gif border=0 align=middle> Smitty |
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| Author: | boomer [ 15 Jun 2004, 21:45 ] |
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didnt the Army develope a "quiet velcro" like a decade ago? "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 16 Jun 2004, 05:50 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>"quiet velcro"<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Isn't that a contradiction of terms? If they have, I haven't heard it.<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> When I was in Bagram, some of the Marines had the new BDU's. Up close you thought "hth can that work?" But at a distance, with the surrounding terrain in back, it did. Guess they figure if you're close enought to a Marine to see his pixels, it's the last thing you'll see. "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles |
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| Author: | FlyBoy [ 16 Jun 2004, 09:52 ] |
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what do the new AF unifroms look like? well it will go down to us in CAP soon enough, or we'll take up with some of our own uniforms, we'll start to all wear those dumb all blue BDUs. The only people I've ever seen in those hidious blue uniforms are fat old chaplins! I wounder if that means something? Silly Saddam, Holes are for rabbits! - joe P. |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 16 Jun 2004, 12:12 ] |
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Try this link, flyboy. 30mmJr says the maintainer's bdu's should have more "grease grey" in them! http://www.af.mil/uniform/ "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles (6/10/04 was the day) |
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| Author: | Smitty216 [ 16 Jun 2004, 18:45 ] |
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More grease and gun gas gray is a must. Plus a little darker just to hide a rushed lunch on the line Smitty |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 16 Jun 2004, 21:52 ] |
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I still like black BDU's with a white broken line down the back so we can blend in with the runway. By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 17 Jun 2004, 00:08 ] |
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Hey, now those Air force BDUs in that link are pretty sharp...well the pattern at least. Not too sure about the colors, though i guess it doesn't really matter. They could be dayglow orange for as likely as USAF ground personnel are to face an enemy at a range where what they're wearing actually matters, lol. 
Did i mention the army uniforms are horrible? I for one see nothing wrong with the woodland pattern...it works extremely well, believe me. I hate those stupid fucking berets too. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | bigross86 [ 17 Jun 2004, 01:42 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>They could be dayglow orange for as likely as USAF ground personnel are to face an enemy at a range where what they're wearing actually matters, lol. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Why? Back in Vietnam, the Viet Cong and the NVA ran over, or tried to run over a couple airbases. Tan Son Nhut, IIRC. "Retreat, hell! We just got here!"-Captain Lloyd Williams, 2nd Marine Division, Belleau Wood, France, WWI |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 17 Jun 2004, 05:27 ] |
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Just what 30mmJr wants to do, blend in with a KC-135 filled with 200,000lbs of fuel and be under attack.<img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles (6/10/04 was the day) |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 17 Jun 2004, 09:29 ] |
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That was 40 years ago BR. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | kingfrogger [ 18 Jun 2004, 11:34 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The team looked at a number of uniforms and took the best part of each uniform and combined it into one. They built their first prototype and delivered 25 uniforms to Stryker squads at the National Training Center. After listening to their comments, the team went back to the lab and created prototype two. Twenty-one uniforms were then delivered to Stryker Soldiers at the Joint Training and Readiness Center, Fort Polk, La. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Ahh, now it makes sense... A new crappy uniform for the new crappy vehicle... What a horrible... I mean, "great" combination. “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 18 Jun 2004, 11:47 ] |
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Nothing gets by you, does it kf? <img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle> "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles (6/10/04 was the day) |
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