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Hey guys

im 17 years old and just graduateed my jr year in high school so im looking for colleges

everything ive done has been hased on to basicly to help me get into a college with ROTC to become a pilot in the air force (a-10 is my biggest goal)

ive been looking at embry-riddle and daniel webster just curious on how people have done coming from these colleges and if anybody has attended them

and also any other colleges anyone has attended and would like to reccomend them

i know this is a very vague question but it is one of the biggest decision of my life and anything would be awesome

Rutgers, NB has a great AFROTC/Army ROTC program with recruits routinely getting aviator and navigator slots.
I've heard that the quality of your school is also weighted though I could be wrong.

wow thats interesting i live in New Jersey so ive thought about rutgers alot never knew how good the AFROTC program was

thanks for the help tritonal

Don't believe the saftey-school BS that your peers might say about it.
It's a really tough school to <i>succeed</i> in.

Anyways, the AROTC and AFROTC there are really strong programs.

I believe some pilots on this site have done ROTC.

United States Naval Adademy. All the really good pilots graduate from there.

"Nobody ever won a war dying for their country. You win wars by making the other son of a bitch die for his." - George S. Patton.
My motto: pacis per vires

Ditto, if I were you I'd try and go the USNA route.

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United States Naval Adademy. All the really good pilots graduate from there.

"Nobody ever won a war dying for their country. You win wars by making the other son of a bitch die for his." - George S. Patton.
My motto: pacis per vires
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Your kidding right? Ive seen basket weavers to full blown PH.D's get washed out through there career.

A Fraternity and a College doesnt make one a Fighter pilot, None of that means Jackshit.


Only the positively well motivated guy is going to survive and have success in this Tradecraft. Respect is earned on the job by your peers amongst you in the squadron. We dont rest on our Laurels. Annapolis and Colorado Springs, may have allowed someone to be challenged and provide a good standard to be judged from, but at the end of graduation, it is only 1 little Chip in the big poker match. And doesnt mean didly squat when it is time to earn the right to be a military aviator. All canidates have to carry their career on their shoulders and not on the reputation alone of their commisioning source.

"The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see their near and dear bathed in tears, to ride their horses and sleep on the white bellies of their wives and daughters."
-Genghis Khan

Edited by - thebigthug on Jun 14 2005 8:59 PM

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I went on the USN academy's site and saw how many flight tracks went through there; it was something like 65%!
It's a means to and end, but as far as talent potential...??????



I've head from my buddies that ROTC guys and Academy guys butt heads. Thing is that the ROTC guys have this beef that the Academy guys feel they have a false sense of entitlement.

Have you've seen any of it in your experience, BT?





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I'm curious.
Can this trait be learned, or is it inate?

Not commenting on the piloting aspects of the thread as I'm just a WT Poser,

But in my experience or the high pressure corporate world, you are born with a PMA and the guts to drive things through to completion.

You can't be taught it...

Just my two cents.

"I can just punch holes in paper for sooo long before I want to see something blow up/fall down "
- Boomer 5th May 2005

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I went on the USN academy's site and saw how many flight tracks went through there; it was something like 65%!
It's a means to and end, but as far as talent potential...??????

I've head from my buddies that ROTC guys and Academy guys butt heads. Thing is that the ROTC guys have this beef that the Academy guys feel they have a false sense of entitlement.

Have you've seen any of it in your experience, BT?
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As much as the services deny it, academy grads and those who got their commission through ROTC or OCS are treated slightly differently.

"Nobody ever won a war dying for their country. You win wars by making the other son of a bitch die for his." - George S. Patton.
My motto: pacis per vires

Apags27,

As a guy who will be starting junior year of college in August, here are my suggestions. Again, these are just my opinions of schools I think you should look into or of places you had mentioned. Do your own research and make decisions based on how YOU feel.

United States Merchant Marine Academy. Lots of guys there are getting flight slots with USN/USMC/USAF, even through the Guard/Reserve route. Plus, you can commission into any service upon graduation. So if you're not sure of which service you'd like to fly for, this is a great option. Last I heard they even had at least one going into USCG Aviation. Check that school out. A really nice campus, the only academy to fly a Battle Standard (check out the story), and you get to go to sea for a year as part of your schooling. It was a very, very difficult decision to not go there.

Riddle, I'm biased, but I wouldn't recommend it. I visited the place (Daytona campus, in any case...) and felt as though I was treated more like a number than a person. I already had my PPL (Private Pilot's License) and they still couldn't tell me if I would fly during my first year there or not. Nice campus? Yes. Lots of programs? Yes. Good name to be associated with? Well that depends according to some stories I've heard (from commercial guys, even). But necessary? Nope.

I visited Daniel Webster as well. Seemed like a nice cozy little campus, but maybe a little TOO small for me. But being from the northeast (New York), I liked the climate (actual season changes, unlike Florida). However, also keep in mind that you will be shoveling snow off of the aircraft and ramps before you fly, from what my tour guide told me. Just a thought. But you will also get some good winter flying experience probably, which IS missing in Florida.

I hear Purdue has a good flight program, as does University of North Dakota (UND) apparently. Look into those places.

Personally, I am currently at Florida Tech (Melbourne, FL). No AFROTC here or cross-town, but I am shooting for the Guard/Reserve route so hopefully it will all work out. We do have several aviation-related Bachelors Degree programs (with the option of flying or not), so you may want to check us out just in case.

And of course you can always go to a school that does not have an aviation program (which WILL likely save you $$$), enroll in ROTC, and still have a good shot at being commissioned and getting a UPT slot if you work hard at it! Study hard, do well in school and ROTC, and be determined to get a slot.

Best of luck in making your decisions and sending in your applications. I still remember that process and as I mentioned before, making the final decision was a very difficult thing to do, but I am happy right now and doing well in school.

"The more you sweat in peacetime, the less you bleed in war."