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| Author: | mattlott [ 08 Nov 2005, 16:05 ] |
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Well the German's came twice, the muslims came as the moors, now they are back. Hey coach ready to re enact saving private ryan in the hog. (my choice is to leave them to eat goat) ___________________ France Braces for 13th Night of Violence Nov 08 3:30 PM US/Eastern Email this story By CHRISTINE OLLIVIER Associated Press Writer PARIS President Jacques Chirac declared a 12-day state of emergency Tuesday, paving the way for curfews to be imposed on riot-hit cities and towns in an extraordinary measure to halt France's worst civil unrest in nearly four decades. Meanwhile, police said the nightly rioting that began Oct. 27 ago was showing signs of abating. "The intensity of this violence is on the way down," National Police Chief Michel Gaudin said, citing fewer attacks on public buildings and fewer direct clashes between youths and police. He said rioting was reported in 226 towns across France, compared with nearly 300 the night before. Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin reached out to heavily immigrant suburbs where the rioting began, tacitly acknowledging that France has failed to live up to its egalitarian ideals. The state-of-emergency decree _ invoked under a 50-year-old law _ allows curfews where needed and will become effective at midnight Tuesday, with an initial 12-day limit. Police who have been massively reinforced as the violence has fanned out from its initial flash point in Paris' northeastern suburbs were expected to enforce the curfews. The army has not been called in. The mayhem sweeping the neglected and impoverished neighborhoods with large African and Arab communities is forcing France to confront anger building for decades among residents who complain of discrimination and unemployment. Although many French-born children of Arab and black African immigrants are Muslim, police say the violence is not being driven by Islamic groups. Discrimination is a "daily and repeated" reality in tough suburbs, feeding the frustration of youths made to feel that they don't belong in France, he said. "We must be lucid: The Republic is at a moment of truth," Villepin said at an impassioned parliamentary debate Tuesday where lawmakers also spoke frankly about France's failings. "The effectiveness of our integration model is in question," the prime minister said. He called the riots "a warning" and "an appeal." Nationwide, vandals burned 1,173 cars overnight Monday to Tuesday, compared with 1,408 vehicles the night before, police said. A total of 330 people were arrested, down from 395 the previous night. Local officials "will be able to impose curfews on the areas where this decision applies," Chirac said at a Cabinet meeting. "It is necessary to accelerate the return to calm." The recourse to a 1955 state-of-emergency law that dates back to France's war in Algeria was a measure both of the gravity of mayhem that has spread to hundreds of French towns and cities and of the determination of Chirac's sorely tested government to quash it. Curfew violators face up to two months imprisonment and a $4,400 fine, the justice ministry said. Minors face one month in jail. Under the emergency decree, officials can put troublemakers under house arrest, ban or limit the movement of people and vehicles, confiscate weapons, and close public spaces where gangs gather, Villepin said. But he cautioned that restoring order "will take time." The violence erupted Oct. 27 as a localized riot in a northeast Paris suburb angry over the accidental deaths of two teenagers, of Mauritanian and Tunisian descent, who were electrocuted while hiding from police in a power substation. It has grown into a nationwide insurrection by disillusioned suburban youths. The unrest claimed its first victim Monday, with the death of a 61- year-old man beaten into a coma last week. Foreign governments have warned tourists to be careful in France. Apparent copycat attacks have spread to Belgium and Germany, where cars were burned. France is using fast-track trials to punish rioters, worrying some human rights campaigners. At one court in the northeastern Paris suburb of Bobigny, 60 riot- related cases were processed in one day and the court has called in three extra magistrates to deal with the overflow. The Justice Ministry said Tuesday that 52 adults and 23 minors have been sentenced to prison or detention centers. The resort to curfews drew a cautious response from Chirac's political opponents. The main opposition Socialists, through their parliamentary leader Jean-Marc Ayrault, said they did not oppose the use of curfews but also warned that they should not be used to hide suburban "misery" or become "a new mark of segregation." Communist Party leader Marie-George Buffet said the decree could enflame rioters. "It could be taken anew as a sort of challenge to carry out more violence," she said. Late Monday, rioters in the southern city of Toulouse ordered passengers off a bus, then set it on fire and pelted police with gasoline bombs and rocks. Youths also torched another bus in the northeastern Paris suburb of Stains, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Outside Paris in Sevran, a junior high school was set ablaze, while in the suburb of Vitry-sur-Seine youths threw gasoline bombs at a hospital, Hamon said. Nobody was injured. Rioters also attacked a police station with gasoline bombs in Chenove, in Burgundy's Cote D'Or, Hamon said. A nursery school in Lille-Fives, in northern France, was set on fire, regional officials said. French historians say the rioting is more widespread and more destructive in material terms than the May riots of 1968, when university students erected barricades in Paris' Latin Quarter and across France, throwing paving stones at police. That unrest, a turning point in modern France, led to a general strike by 10 million workers and forced President Gen. Charles De Gaulle to dissolve parliament and fire Premier Georges Pompidou. ___ Associated Press Writers Jamey Keaten, Jocelyn Gecjer, D'Arcy Doran and John Leicester contributed to this report. Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. |
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| Author: | boomer [ 08 Nov 2005, 17:32 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> the muslims came as the moors<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> It was the Moops <img src=newicons/anim_bannana.gif border=0 align=middle> A 9mm MAY expand, but a 45 will NEVER shrink! |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 08 Nov 2005, 19:11 ] |
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Of course they are disillusioned, you freakin idiot, you have a country with two generations of people that dont have anything at all to believe in. How can you not be disillusioned ? Stand for something, even if it is totally wrong, but at least stand for something. The country (france <img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle>) doesnt have any core beliefs about anything. "By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a peerage or Westminster Abbey !" Nelson the Immortal Memory |
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| Author: | HogDog [ 08 Nov 2005, 19:44 ] |
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Which appears to be the way this country is heading...... Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 09 Nov 2005, 07:13 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>doesnt have any core beliefs about anything<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Sure they do...that the rest of the world revolves around their prissy little <i>derrieres</i>. <b>NOT.</b> "Pilots Without Maintainers are Just Pedestrians With Leather Jackets and Cool Sunglasses." |
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| Author: | a10stress [ 09 Nov 2005, 08:48 ] |
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I was told by someone I trust that the French think that their niche in the world is to be the great arbiter of disputes, the compromise makers. They know they are not a superpower, but they can be successful as an "honest broker". They display this attitude by an obvious "Live and Let Live" way of life, both internally and diplomaticaly. Consider the history that the Ayatolla Khomeni lived there for many years while he organized opposition to the Shah, Yasser Arafat went there for health treatments, Saddam bought nuclear reactors, jet fighters, from them, etc. There are many other examples of international pariahs being welcomed in France. Just like Americans seem to be obsessed with "fairness", the French are obsessed with diplomacy and compromise as the solution to all disputes, and the way to Utopia. It takes some attitude adjustment to realize these obsessions are a weakness that enemies can exploit. Can't we all just get along? Well, sometimes no. Sometimes the best solution is to kick ass and take names. Screw fairness and diplomacy. A Frenchman will never understand a Texan, ya think? It ain't the heat it's the humility. |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 09 Nov 2005, 09:26 ] |
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no but I know for a fact they love the texans on Omaha beach. They might even be asking for them back. |
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| Author: | Stinger [ 09 Nov 2005, 10:03 ] |
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Well this Texan says f**k 'em "One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up" <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/jollyrogerspaintball/cup.gif" border=0> |
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| Author: | a10stress [ 09 Nov 2005, 12:36 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Well this Texan says f**k 'em <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Well put, and precisely my point. The French need a Texan to stop all the rioting, and all they have is diplomats, negotiators, psycologists and sociologists...you know, Frenchmen. I hope they put a lid on the violence. It would be a shame if the historical and beautiful in Paris survived Nazi occupation, only to be destroyed by teenage Jihadists 60 years later. It ain't the heat it's the humility. |
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