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Hey all-

Well, yesterday was the first day I had stuff falling off the Hawg and shooting the gun.

After an extensive brief, we 'got dressed' and went out the the airplanes...which had 4 TERs (triple ejector racks) with a total of 12 BDU-33 practice bombs loaded on them. I did my normal aircraft preflight, then did another separate preflight of the weapons. Everything looked good, I hopped in and 5 minutes later both motors were turning and I was running before taxi checks and getting the NAV system up.

I taxiied out as number two...my lead is a Desert Storm vet, and one of the more highly respected IPs here. He is known as a 'Hammer', but I am eager to fly with him because I know I'll learn a lot. We get to the arming area, and the normal EOR crew goes over the airplane to make sure it's good to go. Then, quite unexpectedly, a voice comes over the airplane's intercom system. "Hello? Hello?" Oh, yeah, I forgot...the weapons guys hook into the intercom while they are doing their thing, pulling pins on the bombs and making the gun hot. I tell them I am hands clear, with switches safe/normal/off, and I see the guys pulling a myriad of flags from the airplane and stuffing them into the cover for the refueling panel. With that, they are all done, and the arming chief wishes me a good ride. Lead gives me the visual signal for a frequency change to tower, then the signal to lower canopies...he checks me in on tower, and we have to wait for a few B-52s to touch and go before we can take the runway.

That's the perfect opportunity to get out my Vis-a-vis water-based marker and start writing on the canopy. Old school guys use grease pencil, and I have one as a backup, but the Vis-a-vis works really nicely with less smearing and easier clean up. We are going to be working Claiborne range, near the old England AFB. The range uses a left hand conventional pattern, so I write my info on the left side of the canopy...that way, I can simply shift my vision from the canopy to the target without having to look across from the right canopy to the target. I draw a 'bomb ladder', which shows me the base altitide and airspeed, track altitude as I'm coming down the chute, release altitude, abort altitude, and a few other parameters for the types of bombing we'll be doing today. All this stuff is already written down on a card, and most guys wind up memorizing these numbers. In combat, you wouldn't do this, because you're going to be writing other more important information like a nine line from a ground FAC, and you most likely won't be able to pre-plan release altitudes since you may not know the target elevation in advance. However, since I'm new, it's a huge help to have this information readily available.

Finally the last BUFF is out of our way, and we're cleared onto the runway. Lead puts his main tire as close to the threshold as I've ever seen anyone go, and makes a relatively tight turn to line up on his half of the runway. He rolls forward a little bit, and this doesn't give me much room to screw up getting into position. I follow his lead and hug the edge of the runway, then wait to the last minute before using full nosewheel deflection to make the turn into my half of the runway. Sure enough, I barely get the nosewheel straightened out and I'm in position on him. We ge takeoff clearance, and he gives me the runup signal and switches us to departure frequency. We check in on departure, and he releases the brakes and launches down the runway. I note the seconds on my clock, wait until 10 seconds elapses, then release my brakes. Airborne, I get the gear, the flaps up, and notice lead make a huge honking left turn at the departure end of the runway. This is a good thing, since if gives me lots of angle on him to allow me to get back into route formation quicker. I delay my turn to get 'on the line' to make my rejoin, then roll up into 90 degrees of bank, honk on the stick, roll out, and find myself relatively close to the rejoin line about 1500 to 2000 feet out. I quickly close the distance and join up on lead, check over his airplane to make sure no bombs have fallen off his bird during the takeoff. Right now, I'm about two ship widths (roughly 110-120 feet) from him...I line up his wingtip on the star & bar on the side of the fuselage, look for a 'V' shape between the two vertical stabilizers, fly co-altitude and find myself in a decent position, always making very small corrections to stay where lead wants me. After I take a good look at his jet, I move it out to 500 feet, so I can concentrate on clearing for traffic, systems checks, etc., without worrying about running into lead. That would upset him a little bit, and I would probably hook the ride.

Enroute to the range, we stay around 3500 feet and he kicks me out to a line abreast formation. This is flying 6000 to 9000 feet across from one another, sometimes with an altitude stack (difference in altitude between aircraft. The trick comes when it's time to turn the jets...in closer formation, lead can turn and I can stay with him no problem. However, if he commands a 90 degree left turn, and I'm on the left, if I make the turn the same time he does I wind up a mile out in front of him! Instead, he turns into me, and I delay my turn...just keep driving straight, until he disappears behind my tail...THEN I make the turn, using a MAX power, 4G pull...if I play the roll out correctly, I will wind up line abreast from him on the opposite side from where I started. It's pretty cool once you get the hang of it, and can get a little tricky for 45 degree turns, or turns that aren't exactly 45, 90, or 180 degrees. It's my job as wingman to always be in position, so even if lead does something wrong, I have to immediately correct to get back in position.

Soon enough we enter the range complex, and lead hands the 'navigational lead' over to me. I'm still two, but he's flying chase off me and talking me around the range. We go over at 2500 feet, and he points out the different targets we'll be dropping on. After the first time around, we arm up the bombs and set up for a dry practice run, 10 degrees of dive, simulating a high drab MK82 AIR delivery. First pass goes okay, so now the master arm goes hot and it's time to put the 'thing' on the 'thing' and push the pickle button.

I roll in, check my parameters...and when the pipper's death dot (the thing) gets onto the target (the other thing) I squeeze the pickle button. Compared to the AT-38, this is cake...all this green stuff in my HUD makes it a lot easier to make a decent pass. I also don't feel the bomb come off the jet, unlike the AT-38, but as soon as I pickle I start pulling for my safe escape maneuver. I get the nose 30 degrees above the horizon, then roll to crosswind...and as I do so I see the white marking charge from my BDU-33 just a tad short of the target. DARN IT! The range controller comes over and calls my score...11 at 5. From the run-in heading, my bomb hit 11 meters at the 5 o'clock position. Yes, any bomb that lands within 23 meters on this event is a qualifier, but I'm still upset that with all this gee-whiz HUD stuff I didn't get a direct hit.

Okay, time to review in my mind what I did...was the pipper really on the target? Did I pickle too soon? Did I pump the stick at the last second, or as the bomb was coming off the jet? I think that I pickled early, and try to remind myself to be patient and wait until the thing is on the thing before pushing the button next time.

Next pass...okay, looking good down the chute, parameters are coming along nicely, bomb fall line is going right through the target, wait for it...ground is getting bigger....WAIT FOR IT....GROUND IS GETTING EVEN BIGGER...just before planned release altitude, thing is on the thing...PICKLE...pull off, safe escape....whew! Only now do I realize my breathing has really quickened, and that I'm almost soaked even with the air conditioning cranked up. As I turn crosswind, I look to see where the smoke is...WOW! Looks REALLY close to the center of the target! The ranger comes over the radio with, "SHAAAAAAAAAAQ, TWO!" ALRIGHT! Now THAT'S what I'm talking about! A direct hit, and on my second pass. It can only go downhill from here, but it still feels good.

We switch targets, from the conventional bomb circle to a tactical target. My job is now to bomb an old M113 APC, the middle vehicle in a 'convoy' of three. My first pass is atrocious, and I come off dry without releasing the bomb because I failed to adjust my base position for the new target. Second time around, I score a 4 at 7. We switch to the 30 degree dive bombs, and all my bombs qualify. On the second tactical target we worked, I get another shaq. Man, is this a blast!

We go winchester with the bombs, and it feels like we've been at the range FOREVER...in the AT-38, you only had half the bombs and less than half the gas, so things went quickly. NOW, its' time for some REAL fun...

We set up for a practice 30 degree high angle strafe shot. The first pass on every event is dry, so we go through the motions and I make a "BRRRRRRZT" noise to simulate shooting the gun. We do the safe escape, come back around, but this time I have a GUN READY light illuminated in the cockpit. I roll in, check the parameters, and come off dry because we're too steep. My base was too close, and I make a mental note to move it out next time around. I'd much rather come off dry, than to break training rules and compromise our safety just to be able to pull the trigger.

Next time around, we roll in, and it looks sweet...the range is clicking down, and I squeeze the trigger to the first detent, then around 6000 feet slant range I pull it all the way back....

What the hell was that, an elephant farting? As soon as the trigger comes back, the entire airplane shakes and vibrates like a massaging mattress gone haywire. Smoke envelopes the entire front of the airplane, and time as we know it seems to slow down. It almost seems like I can distinguish between every bullet that is being fired from the gun, even though that is quite impossible. I let off the trigger after what seems to me forever, and execute my safe escape maneuver. I look at the rounds counter, and realize that I only shot about 40 rounds, which is a little less than a second. Needless to say, I was definately experiencing an adrenaline high. The faint odor of cordite enters the cockpit, then goes away as fast as it came. Now this is what I've been waiting my whole life for, and it was everythng I had hoped it would be, and more! The ranger calls and says it was a shaq, but it really doesn't mean much. There is no way to tell how many of my rounds hit the target, only that I did indeed hit it.

My IP comes over the radio on crosswind and asks how it felt. Without thinking, I blurt out, "F---ING AWESOME!" on the inter-flight radio. Whoops! That's a breach of flight discipline, which I later get downgraded for on my grade sheet. Well, if I only say it once in my career, that was the time to do it. Comm Jam does it again...

We switch to do some low angle strafe passes, starting around 2000 feet above the ground and using 8 to 10 degrees of dive. I shoot at 'the rag', which is a 20 foot by 20 foot banner strung up between two telephone polls. I roll in, pull the pipper on the rag, and open fire at about 5000 feet slant range. For a low angle strafe, that's a long way. Again, the awesome sensation that is a 30mm cannon firing underneath you happens, and I am in awe of the power and death and destruction at my fingertops. My IP encourages me to let the range close more next time around, so I make a mental note to drive closer. The ranger calls and says I had 18 hits. I think I shot about 30 rounds.

Next pass, I see the rag getting bigger, and bigger, ground getting closer, and closer...there's 3000 on the slant range, I can't take it anymore, SHOOT! BRRRRRRRRRRZT! Another 30 rounds into the rag, I get 15 hits. There are acoustic sensors behind a dirt berm in front of the rag that measure the sonic boom of the bullets as they whiz overhead...of course, even if only half my bullets hit the target, in combat, it may only take one or two rounds to kill a tank. We go around for one more pass, I get 16 hits, we safe up our switches and head off the range. We perform a battle damage check to make sure there are no problems with the jets, and give each other thumbs up to indicate we're good to go.

On the way home, we drop by the old England AFB so I can become oriented with it as an emergency divert field. Lead rocks me into close fingertip formation, and we come up initial together. He pitches out, 5 seconds later I do the same to follow him, and we execute low approaches to runway 14. A Delta Connection plane is sitting just short of the runway, waiting to takeoff, and I wonder what they're thinking as these two Hogs come past. Over the threshold, on the go, gear and flaps retracted, I decide to accelerate down the runway....towards the end, i do a stright pullup, once I see 400 feet I pitch out aggressively to the right to rejoin on lead. A few seconds later, tower clears 'Candlier' (Delta Connection) for takeoff, and the pilot says, "Clear for takeoff, thanks for the show!" I think back to when I was sitting right seat in the Dash 8, watching the Bradley Connecticut A-10s do their thing. Talk about motivation!

We RTB, doing some more tactical maneuvering on the way. We come up initial again, pitch out, land, and go to dearming. The dearm crews pin all of lead's bombs, since he was busy chasing me and holding my hand around the pattern, he didn't get to drop. There's always next time.

We taxi in, shutdown, and head to debrief. The only comment he gave me about my improper radio call was "Don't say F--- over the radio ever again!" I told him I wouldn't and he reflected that in my grade sheet. Other than that, I qualified in tactical formation, low angle high drag, and dive bomb. Not bad for my first trip to the range, but there's a lot of work ahead. I'm eagerly looking forward to it, and can't wait to start working in low altitude tactical maneuvering and tactical weapons delivery. First, I have to get the picture in my head for the different deliveries, fix minor parameter problems, and a bunch of other things lead debriefed me on from yesterday. All in all, I can't believe they pay me to do this!



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All I can say is WOW!! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks for taking the time to, in a small way, let us ride along with you...that has to be a BLAST..pun intended!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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"F-----g" great, Comm Jam! Let Voice mail get a call while I was reading it! Got a good writing style started there...something to think about later down the road. Thanks for taking us in the cockpit with you.! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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BTW would you mind if I posted this around, I know quite a few who would love to read it!<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

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WOw....I usually don't go for all that pilot talk crap<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>....if it doesn't invlove thrust or horsepower I'm usually in the dark and my eyes start to glaze over like when my wife starts talking about shoe shopping.......but that was a great read!! Some of us could only imagine what it feels like to have a GAU firing beneath us!! I once drop a valve into my piston on my 350 that shattered the heads, intake and block...is it something like that!?!?<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks for taking us along, great story!!<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Comm Jam:
That was great...be sure to keep us posted like this, if and when you have the time. Definitely a great read...a few things though:

Wasn't that a crew chief and not a weapons puke that hooked up at EOR? I know here, we have weapons there to handle the pins, and their only communication is a Hot/Cold gun hand signal...

Don't worry about the slip up on the radio, either...we had a guy here who told the tower 'Tits up!' one day, I believe making a fly by...all he got was a minor ass chewing from what I hear...

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How about a pic of you and your A-10 posted on this site so we can put a face with a name. Have you had a chance to fly over Toledo Bend yet? If you need a place to go for some cross-country...come see us in KADS. Let me know and I'll meet you there!

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Very cool, thanks! Your story is "F---ING AWESOME"! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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COOL COMM-JAM!!!!!!!!!
THATS ALWAYS A GOOD READ AND IT DOES FEEL LIKE I'M UP THERE TOO!!
THE OLD RANGE AT EAFB.LA I WENT OUT THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO WATCH,BUT WHEN YOUR "TREE RAT" HUNTING ITS ALOT OF NOISE!! LOL
I AGREE WITH 30MM, YOU HAVE A GIFT WHEN IT COMES TO WRITING.
GLAD YOUR HAVING A GOOD TIME.
THE RADIO "GOOF-UP" ,I WAS AT KIRKLAND AFB N.M. WORKING ON A BROKE HOG AND HAD TO DO A ENGINE RUN.I HAD A REAL HARD "LITE" ON NUMBER 2 WHILE DOING TROUBLE SHOOTING AND KEYED THE MIKE BY ACCIDENT AND YELLED"WAAAAAAAWHOOOOOOOOOO!!!! YOU SEE THAT RANDY?!!! THEN A VOICE COMES OVER THE COMM"NO, BUT WE HEARD YOU,STAY -OFF THE CHANNEL UNLESS CONTACTING TOWER"
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DITTOS to all above replys. Keep 'em comming Comm Jam!!!


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Working beautifully!<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

'f***ing AWESOME' - <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>,

I would of said the same thing!<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Great story man, thanx.



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Huh? Somebody said something? I was busy picturing myself in the cockpit in that story. F------G Great! That was something else man! Never in a million years could anyone write something like a soldiers first experience with real wepaons.

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Your posts make my day, Comm Jam! When I'm going on hour 10 in the flight room and all I want is to run away and scream I think about your posts and it makes me want to sit down and read my Dash 1 with gusto! Thanks for the amazing opportunity to understand what it's like in an A-10 cockpit.


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WE ALL WANT SIGNED COPIES OF YOUR FIRST BOOK COMMJAM!

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WE ALL WANT SIGNED COPIES OF YOUR FIRST BOOK COMMJAM!
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Most definitely.

I want to add my thanks for that post. Gives those of us who maintain/maintained those things on the ground, an idea of what it's like for the one in the ACES II.


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BTW would you mind if I posted this around, I know quite a few who would love to read it!<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Go for it. It's my pleasure to try and share with others what I'm lucky enough to do for a living. I remember reading books when I was younger about Vietnam, Korea, and WWII pilots...I couldn't get enough of that kind of stuff! Pappy Boyington was a hero, along with a myriad of others, I only wish I had an opportunity to meet more of those outstanding individuals and glean whatever I could from them before they passed on.



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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Some of us could only imagine what it feels like to have a GAU firing beneath us!! I once drop a valve into my piston on my 350 that shattered the heads, intake and block...is it something like that!?!?<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> Thanks for taking us along, great story!!<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Thanks for the compliment! Sounds like your 350 really self destructed...were you racing it? I imagine that your 350 coming apart may have felt similar, but you probably smelled cooking oil and antifreeze instead of cordite!



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Comm Jam:
That was great...be sure to keep us posted like this, if and when you have the time. Definitely a great read...a few things though:

Wasn't that a crew chief and not a weapons puke that hooked up at EOR? I know here, we have weapons there to handle the pins, and their only communication is a Hot/Cold gun hand signal...

Don't worry about the slip up on the radio, either...we had a guy here who told the tower 'Tits up!' one day, I believe making a fly by...all he got was a minor ass chewing from what I hear...

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Actually, it's just the opposite here. One of those local things I guess. It's all visual signals with the crew chiefs, and the weapons pukes plug in.

I've always had a problem on the radios, either being too verbose or letting something slip, like happened on my range ride. Just something that I have to work on harder than most people, especially when we start doing tactical stuff.

Take it easy!

Comm Jam

P.S. - Keep up the good work and take care of your boys over at Spang. We just got a new crew chief here, a senior airman, first name is Chris, who used to be at Spang. Know him? He launched me out on the range ride I wrote about.

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How about a pic of you and your A-10 posted on this site so we can put a face with a name. Have you had a chance to fly over Toledo Bend yet? If you need a place to go for some cross-country...come see us in KADS. Let me know and I'll meet you there!

Keep up the post!!!

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I hate to deny your request, but there are two reasons I won't post my picture. First, it's not my style, and second, in this day and age OPSEC is paramount. Admittedly, people not so friendly to the U.S. can get a lot of information about us, but I don't want to make their job any easier.

We haven't flown over Toledo Bend yet, and honestly I'm not sure where it is. Since you've invited me to fly into Addison, I'm figuring it's somewhere in that vicinity, and that the Navy and Marine F/A-18s out of NAS Fort Worth probably use it quite a bit. Most likely the F-16s that are there use it as well. Our primary training areas are about 50 to 60 miles east and west of Barksdale, extending north to Ft. Smith AK and south to Fort Polk/Kisatchie National Forest. Anywhere in that huge box you may find us playing as low as 500 feet AGL.

Thanks for the invite to KADS, one of the pilots here took his family to the airshow there a few weekends ago. I think New Orleans flew their Hogs up for it. I'd love to fly in and say hello, but since this is a formal training course the only place (that's planned, anyhow) I will be taking off or landing at is Barksdale. Unfortunately, there are no cross countries scheduled into the program. There is a chance I might drop in that way in the future, on the way out or back to Nellis or Davis Monthan, so I'll keep your offer in mind.



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COOL COMM-JAM!!!!!!!!!
THATS ALWAYS A GOOD READ AND IT DOES FEEL LIKE I'M UP THERE TOO!!
THE OLD RANGE AT EAFB.LA I WENT OUT THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO WATCH,BUT WHEN YOUR "TREE RAT" HUNTING ITS ALOT OF NOISE!! LOL
I AGREE WITH 30MM, YOU HAVE A GIFT WHEN IT COMES TO WRITING.
GLAD YOUR HAVING A GOOD TIME.
THE RADIO "GOOF-UP" ,I WAS AT KIRKLAND AFB N.M. WORKING ON A BROKE HOG AND HAD TO DO A ENGINE RUN.I HAD A REAL HARD "LITE" ON NUMBER 2 WHILE DOING TROUBLE SHOOTING AND KEYED THE MIKE BY ACCIDENT AND YELLED"WAAAAAAAWHOOOOOOOOOO!!!! YOU SEE THAT RANDY?!!! THEN A VOICE COMES OVER THE COMM"NO, BUT WE HEARD YOU,STAY -OFF THE CHANNEL UNLESS CONTACTING TOWER"
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SgtGoose, glad you enjoyed it. When you watched the Hogs on the range at England AFB, you were probably watching the boys from the 23rd Fighter Group to their thing. Actually, back then it was probably 23rd Tactical Fighter Group. One of the guys going through the transition course here (LtCol) has been out of the Hog for a while, but is going back to the 23rd FG. It's great that he's here because talking with him and having him go over my HUD tapes from the range is a HUGE help. Nothing like experience to teach us young pups how to do it right...but I'm sure I don't have to tell you that!

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the history of the 23rd, but they are the 'descendants' of the famous flying Tigers of WWII and wear the same type of shark's teeth on the front of their jets. Pretty cool.

Again, thanks for the kind words, and I'll be sure to share more as it gets more interesting!



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Your posts make my day, Comm Jam! When I'm going on hour 10 in the flight room and all I want is to run away and scream I think about your posts and it makes me want to sit down and read my Dash 1 with gusto! Thanks for the amazing opportunity to understand what it's like in an A-10 cockpit.
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LMFAO - Oh, those days are not so far behind me, and as you will see, they continue after UPT. The whole '12 hour duty day' routine, but in reality you do everything that can't be accomplished at home there in the squadron - THEN you go home and put in some more work. I worked my a$$ off Sunday afternoon until the end of debrief (or FIDO, RSU, or some other a$$boy duty) on Friday. Friday and Saturday were reserved for decompressing, before starting it all over again.

If you sit there studying and your eyes start to glaze over, get up and stretch your legs to combat the 'static hypoxia' that's setting in from too much blood pooling in your legs. If you don't, half of what you read you'll have to re-read later...trust me, I learned this the hard way. Sometimes I can only stand sitting there for 15 to 20 minutes at a time...I'd much rather take a 5 minute break every so often than spend hours re-reading what I should have retained in the first place. I still get frustrated from all the studying there is to do (I would much rather be outside in the great outdoors, working out, etc.) and have my 'motivational videos' that I watch on the computer here at work. Two of my favorites you can download from www.grouchymedia.com - Taliban Bodies and Die Terrorist Die. Lots of stuff blowing up, and loud, angry rock and roll playing in the background.

I'm glad my posts help motivate you to get back to where you need to be, I'll be sending more in the future as things progress here.

So keep kicking some a$$ at UPT, the more you put into it the more you'll get out of it. The other day I came in on a day off to make some maps for low level, and the 917th Wing CC, General Ihle, walked in to the planning room where I was working. I was in civvies, so I didn't lock it up and call the room to attention (even though I was the only one in there, getting my mindset out of old Marine Corps habits is hard to do). He looked over, and asked me what I was doing...I told him I was making low level maps. "On your day off?" I replied in the affirmative. His response was, "Well, don't work too hard." I replied, "But sir, that is the only way things get done." At my airline job, my response would have been, "Don't worry, I won't!"

I know that a lot of what you're being taught at UPT seems laborious, but there is a reason they're teaching it to you. The discipline, habit patterns, and knowledge you receive there will be the building blocks you carry with you for the rest of your flying career. So go the extra mile, because that one bit of information you put into your 'clue bag' may save your bacon one day in combat. It still amazes me that in the A-10, I hear certain instructor's voices in my mind like they're sitting behind me.

Again, much success, and keep up the good work!



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To everyone who complimented me on my post, thank you very much. To those who also happen to work on/maintain the Hog, my deepest appreciation and sincere thanks. Your hard work and dedication to provide us stick actuators with good airplanes never ceases to amaze me.

I will continue to post my adventures here, since I know that many Hog Lovers (so to speak!) would like to know more about what it's like to be in that cockpit. I'll do my best to do it justice. As far as writing a book, well, in the grand scheme of things I don't really know much...my experience would only fill a few paragraphs compared to those who are teaching me. Speaking of which, if any of you have ever read the book <i>WARTHOG!</i> about the A-10 in the Gulf War, then you also read about the IP who took me to the range. In the very first chapter, there is a story about six A-10s flying on a KC-135's wing through a thunderstorm while flying across the Atlantic on the way to the war. Well, my IP was the #3 guy on the left wing, and was one of the first to go lost wingman. If you haven't ever read the book, I highly recommend it. Great read!

Again, thanks everyone, and I'll continue to keep everyone posted as time permits.



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Damn that was a sweet story. This is my first visit to this site and read this thread first, and holy s**t I like it. Great job Comm Jam!!
My 'goal' is to fly one of those babies in 3 years. Do you have any advice for a AF ROTC student? Anything that will give me an edge?
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Damn that was a sweet story. This is my first visit to this site and read this thread first, and holy s**t I like it. Great job Comm Jam!!
My 'goal' is to fly one of those babies in 3 years. Do you have any advice for a AF ROTC student? Anything that will give me an edge?
Any reply is more than appreciated.

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Always glad to help out the future warriors for our great nation.

First, hard work pays off in the long run. Second, adhere to the Air Force core values, and I might add in Honor, Courage, and Commitment as well - talk to a Marine about those, but they are fairly self explanatory. Third, look into and work on getting into the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training, or ENJJPT program, at Sheppard Air Force Base. Until I went there, I'd never heard of it. I don't know what the application process is, either, because I'm a Guard guy and they just happened to send me there. Basically, you do UPT there with a bunch of pilots from other nations. You also fly with IPs from NATO countries in addition to the American guys. The best part about that place is there isn't a track select after T-37s...everyone goes on to fly the T-38. So if you want to get into a weapons system, and not an AWACS or something that starts with KC or C, then ENJJPT is the place to go. Be advised, it will be hard work and the potential exists that instead of getting a T-1 and on to a C-130 or something similar you will be washed out of pilot training completely. However, if you study hard and do well, the reward is a huge one. For U.S. guys at assignment night, the only aircraft handed out are F-15Cs, F-15Es, F-16s, A-10s, B-1s, B-52s, and recently, B-2s. There is always the chance you may be FAIPed, which means your first assignment is as an instructor pilot. However, after that you still go into a fighter.

Also, don't discount Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve units. One of the guys at my home squadron was an ROTC guy, and wanted to fly the A-10 more than anything. He got a slot at my unit coming directly out of college, and hasn't regretted it since (that was 10 years ago). With the increased ops tempo of Guard and Reserve assets in the AEF, there's still a decent chance you'll do real world stuff and see some action.

Where are you currently going to school, and what are you majoring in? When are you going to graduate? I'm more than happy to answer any and all questions you may have, and if I can't answer them, I'll solicit some opinions from guys here who have been there and done that.

Another thing that needs to be mentioned is a good workout program. I would recommend that if you aren't on a strict work out program that you find one that works for you and actively persue it. You have to make time for it, because in the future things are going to get even more hectic than they are at school and maintaining your physical fitness is one of the many things important to being a fighter pilot. If I don't work out in the morning (my preferred time to exercise is around 0530, but that's a holdover from when I was in the Marines) I'm grouchy, irritable, and don't operate at my peak performance for the rest of the day. My flying, as you might imagine, also suffers. I feel so much better after a good work out and a cup of coffee, and I'm ready to tackle the day and get some work accomplished.

Again, I'm always glad to be of any assistance, and feel free to E-mail me at the address listed on my profile page. Much success in your future endeavors, and I eagerly await the day when you check in as "two" on my wing!



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