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| Author: | hogman [ 01 Jul 2003, 05:14 ] |
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Anyone know if any of the Hogs have had any nose art applied for OIF? I know there are mission markings but not seen any nose art - anyone care to clarify? I know the F-15E fraternity have had both nose art and mission makings applied. Thanks Kevin |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 01 Jul 2003, 05:38 ] |
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There was no actual nose art applied during OIF for hogs at the Jab and I haven't heard of any being applied to the hogs at the other operating location. There were a few with mission marking, but they were few and far between. Pope retained their shark's teeth on the nose, but that's about it. |
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| Author: | hogman [ 01 Jul 2003, 12:00 ] |
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Oooo very interesting, was there a particular reason for not applying any do you know? Did you happen to see/note the ones with mission markings? Thanks again Kevin |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 01 Jul 2003, 13:04 ] |
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From what I've heard, it's against regulations to apply nose art to the aircraft. I was told that Pope has an exception to this rule. Don't know for sure, though. |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 01 Jul 2003, 18:51 ] |
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I know that our jets from the 131st EFS have both mission marking and bombs painted on the side. We (the 104th FW) started painting them on the aircraft after Deny Flight in I think it was '95. So we have jets with mission symbols and bombs from Deny Flight, Nobil Anvil, and OIF. I would like my jet to get its Desert Storm mission symbols on it but SGT GOOSE CANT SEEM TO FIND TIME TO DIG ME UP THE NUMBERS ! I dont know if any other units put the symbols on their jets but I am sure that someone must. By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 01 Jul 2003, 20:29 ] |
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Mission markings are allowed to be stenciled on the side of aircraft, just like stenciling a presidential unit citation on the side of the aircraft. I was thinking of actual nose art, not just stenciling. Currently the only nose art allowed on the Hog is the sharks teeth of the 23rd (74/75FS), to the best of my knowledge. |
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| Author: | hogman [ 02 Jul 2003, 07:07 ] |
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Thanks for the info guys! Hey Hawg166 any chance you can let me know what mission symbols are on your aircraft from the different ops? Many thanks Kevin |
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| Author: | hogman [ 02 Jul 2003, 07:08 ] |
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Oh and Hawg166 let me know the tail number of the Hog you need DS info on - I may very well have it - I can email you it if you like? Regards Kevin |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 02 Jul 2003, 08:25 ] |
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I GOT THE KILL MARKINGS BILLY,BUT WE DIDNT PUT MISSION MARKING ON THE PLANES. TANKS 27 TRUCKS 3O AAA/ART 16 APC 13 RADAR/COM 1 ROCKET SITES 3 AND ON 16 FEB 91 DESTROYED MIG-21 ON THE GROUND THATS WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN,I NEVER GOT A FINALLY TALLET SCORE. PRESS TO TEST |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 02 Jul 2003, 09:29 ] |
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Thanks Hog man its 80-166 and as Goose said he has kills, I just need total missions. As for ops symbols, the airplane was still at Barksdale during Deny Flight so I have no idea what it did at that timeframe. During Nobil Anvil I was in phase (@#%$&^!*& <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>) And almost all of my missions were CSAR during OIF because even though I had over 300 hundred left till phase I had to watch the hours because SOME MEAN MAN AT HILL WOULDNT WAVE MY WING STATION 23 INSPECTION <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> But hey I got some licks in. Enough to send Santa Goose an expended shell and a GBU12 fuzing ring for Christamas in June <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle> By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | Weasel_80-204 [ 02 Jul 2003, 09:37 ] |
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Hogman, Can you check out my jets DS tally (if any). Its 80-278. Think it would be interesting to give it all the stencils on the door for DS and OEF. "Coming to an UNDISCLOSED location near YOU..." |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 02 Jul 2003, 10:25 ] |
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HEY BILLY,IF HOGMAN GETS THOSE TALLIES,CAN YOU SHOOT THEM TO ME. I HAD KEPT TRACK OF HOURS BUT HAVE LOST THEM OVER THE YEARS. OK SANTA GOOSE MESSED UP! I'LL GO BACK TO THE NORTH POND<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> SANTA GOOSE AT THE NORTH POND" OK,FRED GET BUSY,GOT TO MAKE BILLY A BETTER CHRISTMAS PRESENT" PRESS TO TEST |
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| Author: | ghost [ 02 Jul 2003, 11:12 ] |
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some units did chalk art but other than pope i did not see any permanent mission markings or nose art- |
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| Author: | Dice [ 02 Jul 2003, 13:52 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Anyone know if any of the Hogs have had any nose art applied for OIF? I know there are mission markings but not seen any nose art - anyone care to clarify? I know the F-15E fraternity have had both nose art and mission makings applied. Thanks Kevin <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Some A-10s did have nose art but not like you are thinking of...MA and CT (that I know of) carried the 9/11 "Lets roll" nose art into battle and this is the first time a standerized nose art has been used that I know of. The main reason(s) for the aircraft not getting art in OIF was one, the 9/11 artwork, and two, OIF had no large build-up period like DS (6 months) and it was relitively short with no long periods of bordom when most art is applyed. I know some will disagree but most of the slack time came during the build-up and at the end of the conflect when your mind was either on the pending war or, at the end when home was on everyones mind. TG, you are right ACC regs only allow nose art on bomber aircarft and not figher/attack. Now I know the Guard,Reserves, PACAF, and USAFE do not fall under this reg (that's why you guys can have door art) but, you may have something along the same lines...I'm not sure. TG, you are also right about Pope being allowed to have the Sharks Teeth but they have a waiver from HQ/ACC because of their link to the Flying Tigers of WWII fame. This is also why they have the FT (Flying Tigers) tail code instead of the standard of two letters of the base they are assigned, which for Pope should be PE, PO, PP or something like that. You also have the Warthog face on the A-10s at Barksdale but I'm not sure if they require a waiver for that or not. There is also the Black Panther on the engines of SP which is a form of nose art, again if they have a waiver or not (or if they need one) I'm not sure. Hawg166, I will not go into why we would not approve a waiver for your jet but I will say it was the right thing to do. Ugly but well hung! http://www.warthogpen.com |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 02 Jul 2003, 15:43 ] |
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Dice, Thanks for the info. For the 9-11 artwok, every unit is authorized one aircraft with the "Let's Roll" art on the nose of it. It's invariably the wing commander's plane, and to the best of my knowledge, every hog unit has completed it. Battle Creek and Pope also had planes over there with that art work. |
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| Author: | Dice [ 02 Jul 2003, 17:07 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Dice, Thanks for the info. For the 9-11 artwok, every unit is authorized one aircraft with the "Let's Roll" art on the nose of it. It's invariably the wing commander's plane, and to the best of my knowledge, every hog unit has completed it. Battle Creek and Pope also had planes over there with that art work. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> No problem TG and yes I know about the "Let's Roll" but, I think MA and CT took it to the next level and put it on all their jet during OIF...all I've seen anyway, Hawg166 and Howgdawg am I right? Ugly but well hung! http://www.warthogpen.com |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 02 Jul 2003, 19:37 ] |
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Yeah Dice unfortunately you are right. We have it on all the bloody jets. I dont know why and cant say I like it. I am all for the 9-11 remmberance thing but my jet aint a billboard ! By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | Dice [ 02 Jul 2003, 20:42 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Yeah Dice unfortunately you are right. We have it on all the bloody jets. I dont know why and cant say I like it. I am all for the 9-11 remmberance thing but my jet aint a billboard ! <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Thanks Hawg166 that's what I thought and I understand what you're saying! I guess the 9/11 may be looked at as the offical nose art of OIF...like it or not. Ghost, do you know of any photos of this chalk art? I know a couple of the Cajun jets got something like that in OEF but haven't see it from OIF. Ugly but well hung! http://www.warthogpen.com |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 03 Jul 2003, 04:49 ] |
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I flew all kinds of MA jets in AF and IZ and I never noticed that they all had it on 'em. Oh well. We've got a big 4th of July Airshow here in Battle Creek (Hot Air Balloon Nationals / Airshow). Anyone gonna be around? |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 03 Jul 2003, 04:51 ] |
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Dice, we've got a jet being picked up from Hill in a little bit. I'll see if I can get in on that. |
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| Author: | Dice [ 03 Jul 2003, 06:37 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Dice, we've got a jet being picked up from Hill in a little bit. I'll see if I can get in on that. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> That would be great TG, would love to put a face to a name! Ugly but well hung! http://www.warthogpen.com |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 03 Jul 2003, 08:00 ] |
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Sorry, Not gonna be able to go. I've got a short TDY the day before and I won't be able to make it to Hill to get the jet back before the end of the week, so we're sending one of our wonderful LTs. |
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| Author: | hogman [ 03 Jul 2003, 12:55 ] |
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Sorry Hawg166, I only had the same info as sgtgoose - only the kill markings! Sorry but I did try for ya! Hey Weasel 80-204 - the Hog you enquired about 80-0278 didnt do Desert Storm so theres nothing to tell! Hey TinyGiant - was hoping to get to BC this year but looks like the trip from the UK will be next year now! Hope you have a good show! |
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| Author: | Dice [ 04 Jul 2003, 06:17 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Sorry, Not gonna be able to go. I've got a short TDY the day before and I won't be able to make it to Hill to get the jet back before the end of the week, so we're sending one of our wonderful LTs. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Hey, maybe next time! Ugly but well hung! http://www.warthogpen.com |
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