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Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife
>>and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a
>>huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while
>>screaming obscenities.
>In your hand is a Glock .40 cal. and you are an expert shot. You
>have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
>
>What do you do?
>> >
>> >
>>__________________________________________________________________
>> > Liberal Answer:
>> >
>> > Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does
>>the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him
>>that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my
>>wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun
>>like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law
>>say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just
>>killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be
>>content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could
>>my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so
>>confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days
>>to try to come to a conclusion.
>> >
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> > Conservative Answer:
>> >
>> > BANG!
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> > Texan's Answer:
>> >
>> > BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click...
>>(sounds
>>of clip being ejected and fresh clip installed).
>> >
>> > Wife: "Honey, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids
>>think?"
>> > Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."
>> >
>> > BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click.
>> > Daughter: "Nice grouping Daddy!"
>> >
>> > Husband: "Baby, could you check your purse for a fresh clip? I
>>seem to have left my other two in the truck with the shotguns."

lolololololololol<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

i got a bad feeling about this

I read this the other day elsewhere.

My answer?

Shoot that bastard in the balls and watch him writhe in pain till the cops show up.

Of course it won't be me that calls them....

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Shoot that bastard in the balls and watch him writhe in pain till the cops show up.

Of course it won't be me that calls them....

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<i>Pulp Fiction</i> style?
"Who's Zed?
Zed's dead honey."

Well Sniper, at least he won't pollute the rest of the world.

Two quick center mass (stops the advance and destroys his ability to atack) and one well aimed kill shot to the head .......... best way to defeat body armor or drug induced Superman delusions. My (1973 era) Colt Combat Commander (HS Grad Present) only holds seven in the magazine and one in the breech .............. but hell if ya can’t kill em with eight shots .......... ya shoulda stayed home. JKA

"Do the MATH"

Hey oldbear get some "Shooting Star" clips, they hold eight rds. Its what I got for my Springfield 1911.

Fender
In war there is no prize for runner-up. -- Omar N. Bradley

I would reccomend Wilson's 8rd mags to both of you.

Pricey, but worth it.



Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Thanks for the tip. I’ve used DEVIL Clips in the past, an eight round mag, but the spring fails after about 1000 or so rounds. I shoot PPSC and IPPSC competition and a feeding failure is death just like on the street. I’d rather carry several extra seven round Colt or Colt copy after market stainless steel mags. But like Sniper, I’d much rather do it with my “reach out and tough someone” weapon. A heavy barreled, glass bedded Ruger M77 in 338 Win Mag. I’ve used several scopes and am still looking for the one I like best. But if it walks, swims, crawls or flies and is within 1100 meters it’s mine. That 250 grain Spitzer Boat tail moving at 2700 fps is a beautiful thing. JKA

"Do the MATH"

<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> 338 Lapua McMillian Action, McMillon Glass Stock, Atkinson barrel with Leupold 6-24 tgt Scope

300 weatherby necked down to 6mm My ultimate Coyote Tack Driver.
Built this one at 15. Schmidt and Bender optics

7mm Stw with Specialty Ballistic Tips Awesome Antelope Gun makes Hamburger out of Rock Chucks.

22-250 Atkinson Barrel Winchester Stainless M70 Action Hart Barrel
I Built this one at .24 4200 FPS "ABOMB" 40 Gn Hornady VMAX Moly Ballistic tips.

A couple Anchutz .22 Bolt Olympic Match rifles and 1 Clip Feed biathlon Rifle. Competed Olympic Smallbore as a Youth and Placed Nationally as well as U.S. Olympic Team Training Center. Going to get back into it this Spring. Been Cutting paper on and off all winter.


Next Gun will be the 416 Cheyene and a .50 BMG.

If the ATF would allow me to own a Artillary peice or a Javelin/Tow...Id Be in heaven.

A couple silenced Sub Guns

I love Long Guns <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>



"Your presence on WT is like an odor dude, you need to unleash.. -Brewski"

Oh ya ...........lets talk long guns, love the subject and love shooting them even more. Yawl come on down and visit a spell. We’ll grill up some T-bones, boil some corn on the cob, and shoot several thousand rounds off my back porch into the target butt I’ve got across the pond. When our arms are too sore to pull the trigger any more we’ll sit on that same porch, eat them steaks and drink Jack Daniels (it helps with the headache) till the sun goes down and the skeeters run us off. Oh ya if it don’t bloody your nose and make your ears ring it wasn’t worth pulling the trigger……JKA

"Do the MATH"

Oldbear, I saw your credentials and they are prolific.
I'm impressed!



Edited by - Tritonal on Feb 14 2003 1:39 PM

He is what we call a soldier's soldier.



Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

I MISS THOSE DAYS OLDBEAR AT EAFB.

COULD GO OUT FISH&HUNT AND SHOOT ANYTIME YOU WANTED!
I WOULD LOVE TO GO BACK AND VISIT LOUISANA,
HAD A GREAT TIME!

I'M WITH SNIPER,SHOOTING IN THE NUTS

AND LET HIM BLEED

PRESS TO TEST

_________________
\"Live Free Or Die\"

Where you live Old Bear?

I might just take you up on that offer.

On the topic of long guns my favorite will always be the M-21, but the M-82 is in a whole different class.

There is something that is just wildy therapeudic about blowing up boulders with a rifle. <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

All you guys sound like you got some REALLY nice pieces.

Old Bear, i am a big fan of Bausch and Lomb, i mounted a 6x24x50 on my M-21, with the money coming out of my own pocket and i could not believe the difference it made over the old ART IV.

It cost me more than a whole month's salary at the time though.

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Shoot that bastard in the balls and watch him writhe in pain till the cops show up.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'M WITH SNIPER,SHOOTING IN THE NUTS

AND LET HIM BLEED<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Two quick center mass (stops the advance and destroys his ability to atack) and one well aimed kill shot to the head .......... best way to defeat body armor or drug induced Superman delusions. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

(Gulp)
Wow, you guys are medevial, I seriously would not want to get on any one of your s*#t lists.





Edited by - Tritonal on Feb 15 2003 12:12 AM

Pelvis shot...nice, big, bone mass for the bullet to transfer its energy to, and hopefully spin the perp around knocking him off balance...Besides, you should SEE their expressions when you drop the barrel to their groin area...

A sucking chest wound is life's way of telling you to slow down...

*I* was always taught that when working with a semi-automatic in such a situation, it is best to to start out aiming for the right hip, and allow your weapon to move up and to your right, so as to come across the gut and the chest. This provides the most stopping power, because it includes the propertoes of energy transfer through dense mass (bone) as well as coming across nerve centers and lethal areas...

--Raven

"Work Hard, Party Hard, Hardly Sleep"

You mean full auto right Raven?

All joking aside follow Old Bear's prescribed method above.

Full auto is a waste of ammo.

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Sniper:
No, I meant semi...a full auto, you just spray them. I was talking about squeezing 3-5 shots out.

--Raven

"Work Hard, Party Hard, Hardly Sleep"

No, for an M-16 with a 300M military zero, firing semi-auto you aim at the upper-belly at 25 meters. This will result in a center mass hit.

At 50-100 meters you aim dead center mass.

At 150-200 meters you aim at the neck. Again, this results in a chest shot.

At 250-300 meters aim for the forehead= Chest shot.

You should never have to deliberately allow for deflection unless the target is moving at a high obliqueity to your position or there are significant winds present.

You always want to hit the center of the chest with your first two-rounds.

Do not aim low and to the left.

With a pistol you can actually fire the first round as you track up throgh the groin region as your second round of the double tap will be fired as you line up at center mass.
This may allow you to score the first hit.


Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Sniper: Thanks for the info...I was talking with a semi-automatic pistol (I guess I ignored the fcat that this thread was mostly about long guns) but you addressed that as well.

--Raven

"Work Hard, Party Hard, Hardly Sleep"