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http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap2 ... _1169.html

Army to Call Up Retired, Discharged Troops
Army to Notify Thousands of Retired, Discharged Troops They Will Be Involuntarily Recalled

The Associated Press


WASHINGTON June 29, 2004 — Digging deeper for help in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army is preparing for an involuntary recall to active duty of about 5,600 civilians who have either retired or were discharged after previous service.

In a new sign of the strain the insurgency in Iraq has put on the U.S. military, Army officials said Tuesday the move would be the first sizable activation of the Individual Ready Reserve since the 1991 Gulf War. Several hundred people had voluntarily returned to service since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Unlike members of the National Guard and Reserve, individual reservists do not perform regularly scheduled training and receive no pay unless they are called up.

"This was inevitable when it became clear that we would have to maintain significant combat forces in Iraq for a period of years," said Dan Goure, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute, a think tank.

The Army is pinpointing certain skills in short supply, like medical specialists and engineers. The intention is to give those selected for recall at least 30 days' notice, one official said.

The Army is so stretched for manpower that in April it broke a promise to some active-duty units, including the 1st Armored Division, that they would not have to serve more than 12 months in Iraq. It also has extended the tours of other units, including some in Afghanistan.

"It is a reflection of the fact that the (active-duty) military is too small for the breadth of challenges we are facing," Goure said.

The men and women recalled from the Individual Ready Reserve will be assigned to Army Reserve units that have been or soon will be mobilized for deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan, unless they successfully petition for exemption based on medical or other limitations.

Army officials discussed some details of the recall Tuesday on condition that they not be identified because members of Congress still were being notified and a public announcement was planned for Wednesday.

Those in the Individual Ready Reserve are former enlisted soldiers and officers who have some nonactive-duty military service obligation remaining, under terms they signed when they signed on but who chose not to fulfill it in the Guard or Reserve.

The Pentagon had hoped to reduce its troop levels in Iraq to about 105,000 this spring, but because of increasingly effective and deadly resistance the level has risen to about 140,000.

Military officials have said they may need to stay at that level for at least another year or two, a commitment of forces that could not be maintained by the active force alone.

The Army frequently must integrate reservists with its active-duty forces, but it rarely has to reach into the Individual Ready Reserve. The Army has about 117,000 people in this category of reservist; the Navy has 64,000, the Marine Corps 58,000 and the Air Force 37,000.

The military has relied heavily on National Guard and Reserve soldiers in Iraq, in part because some essential specialties like military police are found mainly in the reserves rather than the active-duty force and partly because the mission has required more troops than planned.

Reserve troops make up at least one-third of the U.S. force in Iraq, and this month they have accounted for nearly half of all troops killed in combat.

In January, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld authorized the Army to activate as many as 6,500 people from the Individual Ready Reserve, drawing on presidential authority granted in 2001.

Not until May did the Army begin looking in detail at the available pool of people.

At that point some Army recruiters caused a controversy when they contacted members of the Individual Ready Reserve and suggested they would wind up in Iraq unless they joined a Reserve or Guard unit. Some complained that they were being coerced to transfer into a Reserve unit.




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Here is another way the Army is filling it's needs.

http://www.goarmy.com/btg/index.htm

If you are currently serving in the Air Force or Navy and anticipate honorable discharge from active duty soon, Operation Blue to Green offers you some alternatives to civilian life. Participation in Operation Blue to Green is dependent upon your service’s willingness to release you from your current active duty obligation. Marines and Coast Guardsmen may obtain releases in order to reserve training/assignment options, but will have to complete their current active duty service obligation prior to enlisting in the Army.

Operation Blue to Green will allow you to continue to serve your country, to maintain the benefits of military service, and to expand your horizons by gaining new training and trying new things. It facilitates the transfer of qualified individuals from the Air Force, Navy, Marines or Coast Guard to active duty in the Army. Transfer to the Army Reserve or Army National Guard is also possible.

E-1 through E-4 will retain the same rank

Applicants in the grade of E-5 will have eligibility determined by Human Resources Command.

Choice of jobs – if Army has a job comparable to your current job or the possiblity to train in a new Military Occupational Specialty (MOS)

Bonuses available for selected Military Occupational Specialties

Abbreviated training in basic combat skills. Air Force and Navy will be required to attend basic training. (The Army is currently developing a four-week course in Basic Combat Skills. This course will substitute for the nine-week course currently used to train Airmen, Sailors, and Coast Guardsmen enlisting in the Army.)

The program has been announced, but not all the details are complete. When program details are finalized, they will be posted here. If you provide us your email address we will contact you when new information is posted. As of 17 June 2004, this is what has been established:

Requirements:

Must be physically fit

Must meet Army height and weight standards

Eight-year service obligation still applies

Minimum term of service is three years

Must have approved DD Form 368

If you fill out the Operation Blue to Green Information Form , we will contact you as soon as the personnel policies are finalized. Until formal policies have been approved, Army recruiters cannot accept applications, process paperwork, or reserve training seats.

If you’re interested in Operation Blue to Green, fill out this form.







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PostPosted: 29 Jun 2004, 23:06 
Can't say i'm surprised by any of this.

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In the event they are involuntarily recalled,I hope most of 'em are Democrats...first-hand results of what THEIR elected officials did to-I mean for- them!

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IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,THE DADDY BUSH ALONG WITH CHENY,RUMMY AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS CUT THE MILITARY DOWN RIGHT AFTER THE GULFWAR,CLOSED THE BIG HOG BASES AND ALOT OF ARMY BASES TOO,

SO IT AINT JUST THE DEMOCRATS, IT WAS THE WHOLE "SMALLER,LIGHTER,FASTER" LASER GUDIED,COMPUTER MILITARY THAT CAUSED THIS AND LOOK WHO IS NOW TRYING TO HIDE FROM IT,

RUMMY AND DICKY

PLUS STILL WE SHOULD AND COULD OF DID ALL THIS IN 91 IF IT WERENT FOR THE F-ING POLITICS! WHEN WE HAD THE FORCE AND THE EQUIPMENT .

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PostPosted: 30 Jun 2004, 13:43 
Much truth in what you say Goose, though Rumsfeld had nothing to do with the downsizing of 1991-92.

Everything post 92 was Slick Willy Clinton's doing.

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YOUR RIGHT SNIPE RUMMY,DIDNT HAVE THE HAND IN CLOSING,BUT HIS IDEA OF THE "SMALLER" WAS HIS.

THOSE "PEACE DIVIDENS" EVERYONE SPENT,AND I MEAN BOTHSIDES THE REPUBLICANS HAD CONTROL TOO THEN WAS A BIG "FLOP"!

A STRONG OFFENSE IS ALWAYS THE BEST DEFENSE.

I JUST CANT IMAGINE SOME THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN OUT FOR YEARS,THEN PUT BACK IN WITH NO TIME FRAME.

IT COULD HAPPEN TO SOME OF THE VERY PEOPLE YOU KNOW.



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PostPosted: 30 Jun 2004, 22:05 
The 'peace dividend is........peace.

Someday the left will figure that out.

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