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| Author: | mattlott [ 04 Apr 2003, 08:36 ] |
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Iraqi 'hero' led Marines to injured POW http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/ ... index.html Man drew maps of hospital where Lynch was being held (CNN) --An Iraqi man who helped U.S. Marines plan the rescue of Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch has been granted refugee status and has been described by the Marines as a "hero." The man, identified only as Mohammad, is in a secure location along with his family, according to the Marine Corps Web site. Lynch and seven other members of her unit, the 507th Maintenance Company, were listed as missing after they made a wrong turn near Nasiriya on March 23 and drove into an ambush. Five other members of the unit were shown on Iraqi TV and are listed as prisoners of war; two were killed in action. At least four were wounded. Lynch is recovering at Landstuhl Air Base in Germany. An article written by Sgt. Joseph R. Chenelly and posted on the Marines' Web site describes how Mohammad, a lawyer from Nasiriya, helped U.S. forces carry out the raid that freed the 19-year-old supply clerk Wednesday. While visiting his wife, a nurse at Saddam Hussein Hospital, Mohammad noticed an increase in security and asked one of the doctors what was going on. "He told me there was a woman American soldier there," Mohammad said. After the doctor showed Mohammad where Lynch was being held, Mohammad said he saw an Iraqi colonel slap Lynch twice. "My heart stopped," he said. "I knew then I must help her be saved. I decided I must go to tell the Americans." That day, Mohammad walked 10 kilometers [about six miles] to a Marine checkpoint. He approached with his hands in the air and told them he had "important information about Jessica." The Marines asked him to return to the hospital to gather information about the building and about Lynch's location inside. "I went to see the security," he said. "I watched where they stood, where they sat, where they ate and when they slept." As Mohammad observed Lynch's captors, Iraqi paramilitary forces stormed his home in Nasiriya and seized many of his belongings, including his car. His wife and 6-year-old daughter fled to a neighbor's home. "I am not worried for myself," he said. "Security in Iraq loyal to Saddam will kill my wife. They will kill my [child]." Describing the scene at the hospital, Mohammad said Lynch was covered up to her chin by a white blanket, with her head bandaged and a serious wound on her right leg. He said the doctors had planned to amputate her leg, but Mohammad and a friend, who had helped him get past the heavy security surrounding Lynch, created diversions to delay the surgery. "She would have died if they tried it," Mohammad said. For two days, he walked through battles in the streets of Nasiriya to get to the hospital. In addition to watching the guards' movements, each morning he attempted to keep Lynch's spirits strong with a "good morning" in English. Mohammad said Lynch acted bravely throughout the ordeal. When reporting back to the Marines on March 30, Mohammad brought five maps he and his wife had made. He was able to point to the room where Lynch was being held. He also handed over the security layout, reaction plan and times that shift changes occurred. He had counted 41 Iraqi forces, and determined that a helicopter could land on the hospital's roof. That information helped U.S. forces plan and carry out a successful nighttime raid April 1. Mohammad praised the Marines and the U.S.-led war to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, and said that he and his family hope to meet Lynch in the future. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 04 Apr 2003, 10:12 ] |
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I wonder how much of this is true since we can't even find out whether or not the girl was shot, not shot...stabbed, ot stabbed, etc. Fog of war. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | fenderstrat72 [ 04 Apr 2003, 10:41 ] |
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The latest from Germany is she was not shot or stabbed. Your right Snipe how much can we believe. You said it earlier, the Fog of War. Fender Don't tell me what you think, what does the T.O. say. |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 04 Apr 2003, 10:51 ] |
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Well lets let fog clear, but if it is true. His family deserves our gratitude and an opportunity to be free. |
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| Author: | poke [ 04 Apr 2003, 14:43 ] |
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Heck, even if he so much as said "hey there's an American soldier in that building over there" he did a great service to us. Anything more just adds to it. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 04 Apr 2003, 14:53 ] |
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All quite true. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | chadrewsky [ 04 Apr 2003, 22:00 ] |
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Hearts and Minds........ We win those, and we win the Middle East. The liberal bent media of the world wont show it, but we are gaining ground and showing the world that America is the "great liberator" not the "great conquerer" Americana 21......"Lean Foward" Let the rest of the world try to catch up. If your not having fun, your not doing it right! |
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| Author: | Weasel [ 05 Apr 2003, 01:49 ] |
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Heard on the radio tonight that the doctor was incorrect again and that she was shot twice. Shot or not, she's one tough soldier. --- Pete Nelson Your Warthog Territory Webmaster |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 05 Apr 2003, 10:23 ] |
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LOL, i know...this is crazy, how can they not know two days later if the girl was shot!?!?!?! "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | poke [ 05 Apr 2003, 11:50 ] |
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The only reason I can think of is that she was that messed up. If a laceration is that extensive, it may take a while before they figure out exactly what caused it. "See that green switch? Flip it down." |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 05 Apr 2003, 13:47 ] |
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Yeah, massive bruising, and gunshot wounds tend to close-up pretty fast, depending on where a person was hit. A sucking chest wound is life's way of telling you to slow down... |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 05 Apr 2003, 14:25 ] |
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FOX NEWS REPORTED THE "ROCKS" WERE GOING TO CUT OFF ONE LEG DUE TO THE MASSIVE INFECTION.SHE IS ONE TOUGH 5'4" GRUNT!! AFTER ALL THE FACTS CLEAR AND SUCH,I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED TO SEE A"MEDAL"GIVEN TO HER. NOT SAYING WHICH ONE .I JUST HOPE ITS A MEDAL GIVEN IN TRUE MEANING NOT "P.C." GOD KNOWS SHE EARNED HER PURPLE HEART THE HARD WAY! PRESS TO TEST Edited by - sgtgoose1 on Apr 05 2003 1:25 PM |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 05 Apr 2003, 15:04 ] |
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I would say a silver star is clearly in order. Who knows, depending on the circumstances perhaps even a CMoH. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | poke [ 05 Apr 2003, 16:57 ] |
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eh, CMoH is usually given for extreme valor in defense of someone's life, isn't it? I mean, she is one tough soldier and if there isn't a good medal that fits they should make one up for her. But I think she would have had to be killed or nearly killed going kamakaze (sp?) on the attacking Iraqi troops, letting her fellow troops get away in the process or something along those lines to get CMoH. All around amazing, though. "See that green switch? Flip it down." |
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| Author: | joedog [ 05 Apr 2003, 17:48 ] |
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I would think, depending on "details", low end: BS w/V or Soldiers Medal -- high end: Silver star. Modern awards of the Distinguished Service Cross or the MOH call for a person to KNOWINGLY put themselves in a position of certain or near certain death, usually to save or protect the life of another. There would have to be a LOT more to the story to see a DSC or MOH. She should also receive the Purple Heart and POW medals. I in no way mean to detract from her. She is a brave Soldier and deserves our recognition and respect. If you go back and read some of the citations for the MOH from the past 40 years I think you'll see what I mean though... All the way... |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 05 Apr 2003, 19:58 ] |
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THAT WAS KINDA OF WHAT I WAS AIMING FOR. I WOULDNT WANT THE CMH BEING GIVEN BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN LOOBY GROUP PROMISING VOTES. IF SHE EARNED IT I SALUTE HER! WHAT I'VE READ AND SEEN SILVER STARS GIVEN FOR,THATS THE LEAST SHE SHOULD BE GIVEN. THE ONLY ONES WHO REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPEN ARE HER,THE 5 POWS FROM HER UNIT AND THE 8 WHO CANT SAY,THEY FOUND IN THOSE GRAVES. THOSE SOP'S WHO USED THEIR HANDS TO DIG OUT THOSE FALLEN SOLIDERS,SHOULD BE GIVEN A MEDAL FOR UNDER FIRE NOT LEAVING ANYONE BEHIND PRESS TO TEST |
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| Author: | joedog [ 05 Apr 2003, 20:55 ] |
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Damn skippy! All the way... |
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