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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 02 Feb 2004, 05:42 ] |
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At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior. "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship." "The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From Bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage." Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election: Population of counties won by: Gore=127 million Bush=143 million Square miles of land won by: Gore=580,000 Bush=2,2427,000 States won by: Gore=19 Bush=29 Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore=13.2 Bush=2.1 Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..." Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. Hajji, you can run, but why die tired? |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 02 Feb 2004, 07:53 ] |
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reminds me of an article I read once called 'The Economic Decline of Nations' by a man named Chipolla I believe it was. This short snippet was balls on and if anyone thinks that this great nation of ours is going to stand another 200 years; although I would love to jump on that wagon, I cant. By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | boomer [ 02 Feb 2004, 10:04 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>if anyone thinks that this great nation of ours is going to stand another 200 years; although I would love to jump on that wagon, I cant. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> and the Democratic response would be: "so we better get ours while we can" <img src=newicons/Whatever_anim.gif border=0 align=middle> "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | Hawg166 [ 02 Feb 2004, 11:48 ] |
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Harump ! By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson |
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| Author: | ViperTTB [ 02 Feb 2004, 13:12 ] |
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Odd that it was under Clinton that welfare was reformed Could count on Slick to jump on the other side's position and steal as his own ;- Edited by - viperttb on Feb 02 2004 12:14 PM |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 02 Feb 2004, 15:42 ] |
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Welfare reformed? LOL...please. I happen to agree with the author wholeheartedly. We're in what i call the pre-socailism stage now. <img src="http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/sigs/snipersig.jpg " border=0> |
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| Author: | boomer [ 02 Feb 2004, 16:25 ] |
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Clinton only signed the reform bill to get re-elected, remember he said he would "fix it" after the election! slimeball. "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | ViperTTB [ 02 Feb 2004, 20:57 ] |
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As far as the original post check out http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp Edited by - viperttb on Feb 02 2004 8:29 PM |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 03 Feb 2004, 01:21 ] |
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OK, so i agree with the author that made the quotes up anyway, lol. Freedom and bondage are opposite ends of the political pendulum swinging to and fro. <img src="http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/sigs/snipersig.jpg " border=0> |
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| Author: | Fast Attack Tough [ 06 Feb 2004, 12:21 ] |
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Whoever made it up should have taken credit for them. I would have thought he was cool. He is not only dull himself, but the cause of dullness in others. --Samuel Johnson, LL.D |
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