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| Author: | Hogdawg [ 28 Jun 2004, 09:41 ] |
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This pisses me off too Bigvette. Where in the hell did this supposed Cpl. learn to surrender. I just doesn't make sense. One thing that caught my attention was in his official capture photo, you can see that he's not wearing his Cpl. chevrons. Seems a little strange to me. I'd figure the terrorists would want to leave them there to validate their capture. Smells like a fake to me. Marge: There's someone here who I think can help you. Homer: Who, Batman? Marge: No he's a scientist. Homer: Batman's a scientist? Marge: It's not Batman! |
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| Author: | MrMudd [ 28 Jun 2004, 14:12 ] |
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Reading the paper today it turns out he is from SLC Utah, and has family there, This is a legitimate case of him being captured. "The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader |
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| Author: | Stinger [ 28 Jun 2004, 14:22 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> This pisses me off too Bigvette. Where in the hell did this supposed Cpl. learn to surrender. I just doesn't make sense. One thing that caught my attention was in his official capture photo, you can see that he's not wearing his Cpl. chevrons. Seems a little strange to me. I'd figure the terrorists would want to leave them there to validate their capture. Smells like a fake to me. Marge: There's someone here who I think can help you. Homer: Who, Batman? Marge: No he's a scientist. Homer: Batman's a scientist? Marge: It's not Batman! <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>Do Marines not wear the reveresed US flag on the right shoulder? and I don't see a unit patch on his left either. I understand where your coming from Mudd, but he doesn't have any visible insignia where it should be. You look as lost as a bastard child on Fathers day. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 29 Jun 2004, 01:43 ] |
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How did they come upon a lone Marine, and why did he not save his last round of ammunition for himself when they did? All very odd. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 29 Jun 2004, 13:32 ] |
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I looked into this story a little today...it is extremely odd. Apparently the muslim Marine thought he'd slip off base to meet some muslim buddies and.... "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 30 Jun 2004, 05:42 ] |
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...get his sorry a$$ captured? "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles (6/10/04 was the day) |
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| Author: | Stinger [ 30 Jun 2004, 06:06 ] |
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NYT is running an article saying his intention was to desert <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Abducted Marine Had Reportedly Deserted By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN and NICK MADIGAN Published: June 30, 2004 AGHDAD, Iraq, June 29 — The American marine who is being threatened by his kidnappers with beheading had deserted the military because he was emotionally traumatized, and was abducted by his captors while trying to make his way home to his native Lebanon, a Marine officer said Tuesday. The officer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said he believed that Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun was betrayed by Iraqis he befriended on his base and ended up in the hands of Islamic extremists. The officer said Corporal Hassoun, a 24-year-old Marine linguist who was born in Lebanon, was shaken up after he saw one of his sergeants blown apart by a mortar shell. "It was very disturbing to him," the officer said. "He wanted to go home and quit the game, but since he was relatively early in his deployment, that was not going to happen anytime soon. So he talked to some folks on base he befriended, because they were all fellow Muslims, and they helped sneak him off. Once off, instead of helping him get home, they turned him over to the bad guys." "It's all we know right now," the officer added. Corporal Hassoun, a fluent Arabic-speaker who had been living with his family in West Jordan, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, joined the Marine Corps to work as a translator. About two months ago, he told a cousin that several American deserters had escaped by bribing Iraqis to help get them out of the country. "He said a lot of soldiers, they don't want to die, especially when they see someone dying in front of them," said the cousin, Tarek Hassoun, who lives in Salt Lake City. Marine officials said Sunday night that Corporal Hassoun had been missing since June 21. On Sunday, the Qatar-based television network Al Jazeera broadcast a videotape that showed him blindfolded with a sword over his head. According to a statement provided with the video, an obscure group called The Islamic Reaction said it had abducted him near Falluja and was threatening to behead him unless American forces released all Iraqi prisoners. The group, which also identified itself as the security wing of the 20th Revolution Regiment, a reference to the Arab uprising after World War I, did not give a deadline for the release or execution. When Corporal Hassoun was first shown in captivity on video Sunday, Marine officials were reluctant to confirm that he had been kidnapped. On Monday, they acknowledged that they were now classifying his status as "captured." Masked men have snatched dozens of foreigners in the past several months. On Tuesday, three Turks were freed after by their captors. But several hostages have been executed. The latest victim appears to be Specialist Keith Matthew Maupin, an American soldier who vanished after an ambush on his convoy near Baghdad on April 9. On Monday, Al Jazeera, which has been first to broadcast a number of videos showing the killing of Americans, broadcast a video it said ended with kidnappers shooting Specialist Maupin in the head. Army officials said they could not confirm that he had been killed. Intelligence officials said it is not clear if the kidnappings are coordinated, although they suspect that some of the captors are at least loosely tied to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant thought to be behind much of the mayhem in Iraq. On Monday night, Muslims in Salt Lake City gathered at the Khadeeja Mosque, one of three mosques in the city, to pray for Corporal Hassoun. Mahdi Jaff, 38, an Iraqi Kurd who immigrated to the United States 10 years ago, said he had met Corporal Hassoun a few months ago while the marine was home on leave. "I loved him when I met him," Mr. Jaff said. Mr. Jaff said Corporal Hassoun had stayed true to his Muslim values while serving in the military. When he heard the news that a member of the Hassoun family had been seized in Iraq, Mr. Jaff said he did not know who it was. "He has a lot of brothers so, at first, I was not sure who was captured, but then when I saw the picture, I said, `Oh, man, that's him,' ' Mr. Jaff said. "I was really shocked that it was him." "Those people will not negotiate," Mr. Jaff said of Corporal Hassoun's captors. "He just has to wait for his time to come. It's just like when someone would be sent to Saddam Hussein's jails; he would send a message to his family and say, `I'm gone.' " Others in Salt Lake City were also praying Monday night. About 25 people stood in the rain on the steps of the Utah State Capitol, pleading for Corporal Hassoun's release. Pamela Atkinson, 68, of Salt Lake City, led the group in a prayer to God. "As the insurgents threaten his life, we ask that Corporal Hassoun and his family feel your loving arms around them," she said. Jeffrey Gettleman reported from Baghdad for this article and Nick Madigan from Salt Lake City. Melissa Sanford contributed reporting from Salt Lake City. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> You look as lost as a bastard child on Fathers day. Edited by - Stinger on Jun 30 2004 05:07 AM |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 30 Jun 2004, 10:00 ] |
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There are conflicting stories on the Desertion part, but he was definitely AWOL. The dude is a dumbass. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 30 Jun 2004, 11:03 ] |
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Hello Mr. Darwin! What brings you here...?<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> "Live every day like it's the last, 'cause one day you're gonna be right!" Ray Charles (6/10/04 was the day) |
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| Author: | kingfrogger [ 30 Jun 2004, 12:25 ] |
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I wanna see this chain of events play out... If he *does* make it back alive somehow (making him the first of the media-popularized captives to do so), does the USMC push forward with the investigation and subsequent possible court marshal, thus putting more of a negative spin on the situation (the majority of the civilian population won't understand the 'justice' behind it)? Or will they let him go as another "Jessica Lynch" and praise the fact that they managed to get him back safely? Interesting... “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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| Author: | FlyBoy [ 30 Jun 2004, 12:38 ] |
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the first? what about the guy who was a truck driver or something who was able to excape? I remember hearing about some one escapeing on the news "VMI is a flip-flop obstacle course" |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 30 Jun 2004, 13:44 ] |
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Yeah, a truck driver got away about a month ago. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | kingfrogger [ 30 Jun 2004, 16:21 ] |
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Oh crap... forgot about him. Yeah, I need to keep a closer tab on all the captives from now on. “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 30 Jun 2004, 20:12 ] |
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If his intent WAS truly to desert then as far as i'm concerned the rags can save us the hassle of prosecuting him ourselves. Once upon a time in the US military desertion in wartime would get you an appointment with the firing squad anyway. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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