LOL, Smitty you're a funny SOB dude.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"
Ronald Reagan
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| Author: | MrMudd [ 16 Jul 2004, 17:51 ] |
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Theres fighter pukes and those that wish they were..Enjoy! There I was at six thousand feet over central Iraq, two hundred eighty knots and we're dropping faster than Paris Hilton's panties. It's a typical September evening in the Persian Gulf; hotter than a rectal thermometer and I'm sweating like a priest at a Cub Scout meeting.. But that's neither here nor there. The night is moonless over Baghdad tonight, and blacker than a Steven King novel. But it's 2003, folks, and I'm sporting the latest in night-combat technology. Namely, hand-me-down night vision goggles (NVGs) thrown out by the fighter boys. Additionally, my 1962 Lockheed C-130E Hercules is equipped with an obsolete, yet, semi-effective missile warning system (MWS). The MWS conveniently makes a nice soothing tone in your headset just before the missile explodes into your airplane. Who says you can't polish a turd? At any rate, the NVGs are illuminating Baghdad International Airport like the Las Vegas Strip during a Mike Tyson fight. These NVGs are the cat's ass. But I've digressed. The preferred method of approach tonight is the random shallow. This tactical maneuver allows the pilot to ingress the landing zone in an unpredictable manner, thus exploiting the supposedly secured perimeter of the airfield in an attempt to avoid enemy surface-to-air-missiles and small arms fire. Personally, I wouldn't bet my pink ass on that theory but the approach is fun as hell and that's the real reason we fly it. We get a visual on the runway at three miles out, drop down to one thousand feet above the ground, still maintaining two hundred eighty knots. Now the fun starts. It's pilot appreciation time as I descend the mighty Herk to six hundred feet and smoothly, yet very deliberately, yank into a sixty degree left bank, turning the aircraft ninety degrees offset from runway heading. As soon as we roll out of the turn, I reverse turn to the right a full two hundred seventy degrees in order to roll out aligned with the runway. Some aeronautical genius coined this maneuver the " Ninety/ Two-Seventy." Chopping the power during the turn, I pull back on the yoke just to the point my nether regions start to sag, bleeding off energy in order to configure the pig for landing. "Flaps Fifty!, Landing Gear Down!, Before Landing Checklist!" I look over at the copilot and he's shaking like a cat shitting on a sheet of ice. Looking further back at the navigator, and even through the NVGs, I can clearly see the wet spot spreading around his crotch. Finally, I glance at my steely-eyed flight engineer. His eyebrows rise in unison as a grin forms on his face. I can tell he's thinking the same thing I am. "Where do we find such fine young men?" "Flaps One Hundred!" I bark at the shaking cat. Now it's all aimpoint and airspeed. Aviation 101, with the exception there's no lights, I'm on NVGs, it's Baghdad, and now tracers are starting to crisscross the black sky. Naturally, and not at all surprisingly, I grease the Goodyear's on brick-one of runway 33 left, bring the throttles to ground idle and then force the props to full reverse pitch. Tonight, the sound of freedom is my four Hamilton Standard propellers chewing through the thick, putrid, Baghdad air. The huge, one hundred thirty thousand pound, lumbering whisper pig comes to a lurching stop in less than two thousand feet. Let's see a Viper do that! We exit the runway to a welcoming committee of government issued Army grunts. It's time to download their beans and bullets and letters from their sweethearts, look for war booty, and of course, urinate on Saddam's home. Walking down the crew entry steps with my lowest-bidder, Beretta 92F, 9 millimeter strapped smartly to my side, I look around and thank God, not Allah, I'm an American and I'm on the winning team. Then I thank God I'm not in the Army. Knowing once again I've cheated death, I ask myself, "What in the hell am I doing in this mess?" Is it Duty, Honor, and Country? You bet your ass. Or could it possibly be for the glory, the swag, and not to mention, chicks dig the Air Medal. There's probably some truth there too. But now is not the time to derive the complexities of the superior, cerebral properties of the human portion of the aviator-man-machine model. It is however, time to get out of this shit-hole . "Hey copilot clean yourself up! And how's 'bout the 'Before Starting Engines Checklist?" God, I love this job! "The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader |
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| Author: | Lunatock [ 16 Jul 2004, 20:10 ] |
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Yeah that was a bit OTP. Guess I'll take my time in purgatory for it now. "Thier broken, beaten, and now leaderless. Let them bitterly stew in thier defeat." Edited by - Lunatock on Jul 17 2004 9:46 PM |
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| Author: | boomer [ 16 Jul 2004, 22:35 ] |
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<b><i>HERC! the fighter plane of trash haulers</i></b> <img src=newicons/anim_bannana.gif border=0 align=middle> "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | poke [ 17 Jul 2004, 00:12 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Yay or nay: Riding a mountain bike down a one lane mountain road fast enough for the uneven asphalt to resemble turbulence. And flying past a big red pickup driving up, close enough to reach out & touch it (except for sudden numbness making me ride one handed) owns the C-130 aces approach to BIA? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> You do realize you are comparing riding your K-mart Huffy on pavement (sorry, <i>cracked</i> pavement) to flying an approach into an active warzone, don't you? I mean, the Herc is a slow-ass POS, but let's keep it in perspective now, shall we? |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 17 Jul 2004, 06:11 ] |
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hey if you have a one nation airforce the herc is your plane. Transport, gun ship, bomber, helicopter tanker, medic vac, flying radio station, UAV mother ship, rocket assisted short take off vehicle, oh and carrier qualified (atleast afew times over lol), fire fighter, flying hospital. Mudd or Poke what have I missed here, seems the herk has been used for everything they can think of. |
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| Author: | poke [ 17 Jul 2004, 09:56 ] |
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Yeah, we just make fun of it because it's slow and old. Same reason other fighter pilots make fun of the A-10. The fact that it probably does more work than all other C-anythings combined is irrelevant. <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 17 Jul 2004, 09:57 ] |
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You left out bomber Matt. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | Smitty216 [ 17 Jul 2004, 12:22 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> You left out bomber Matt. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I would'nt call what it drops bombs. Acreage annhillation devices may be more accurate. The c-130 is the hog of the trash hauling world, slow, ugly, aerodynamically challenged, but most of all you kiss it's ass when you need something or it's your only ride. Smitty |
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| Author: | gifted [ 17 Jul 2004, 13:39 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>hey if you have a one nation airforce the herc is your plane. Transport, gun ship, <b>bomber</b>, helicopter tanker, medic vac, flying radio station, UAV mother ship, rocket assisted short take off vehicle, oh and carrier qualified (atleast afew times over lol), fire fighter, flying hospital. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>He didn't leave it out anyway. "Some pup" Nickname by Fenderstrat72 |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 17 Jul 2004, 13:59 ] |
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I always wanted to try out the Fulton recovery system, where you sit in a harness with a balloon overhead, the C-130 flies over to snatch the line, and whips you up into the air and hopefully reels you into the back... <img src="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/rescue/res12-2.jpg" border=0> Still not quite sure how they actually got you into the plane, though. Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. |
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| Author: | chadrewsky [ 17 Jul 2004, 22:22 ] |
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Watch the "Green Berets" with John Wayne....Thats how they kidnaped that NVA Officer, though I don't think the C-130 crew ever reeled him in, I think that they just let him dangle in the prop wash of the Herc untill they got to their destination. They had the dude wrapped in one of those inflatable suits, so they probably landed with him still dangling, letting him bounce off the tarmac untill they stopped. Pretty cool way to interogate somone if you ask me... |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 17 Jul 2004, 22:29 ] |
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ouch but hasnt that fulton been retire for use on live subjects. I wonder why? Can you say whip lash |
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| Author: | MrMudd [ 17 Jul 2004, 23:04 ] |
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The fulton recovery system is still in use. It was primarily designed as a emergency extract system for medicals and had uses for clandestine reasons during the cold war ( primary design ) It is very much a valid solution to emergency extractions in inhospitible trrain or areas without helo aviation support. The kit is airdropped with instructions... "The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 17 Jul 2004, 23:35 ] |
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You sure about that, Mudd? Website I ran across says it fell out of favor after it killed a guy in '82, and they phased it out completely in '96. Not saying it hasn't been brought back since, just saying that's what the information I've found tells me. Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. |
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| Author: | boomer [ 17 Jul 2004, 23:39 ] |
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I believe the cable is snagged at the rear and winched into the bay. BUT I have seen mail delivery in remote spots in Africa where they let out a mailbag from a small plane on a long rope/cable as the plane begins a tight pylon turn. As the turn tightens the bag begins to center in the turn and basicaly stops moving at all with the plane just pivoting around it. The pilot then just lowers altitude dropping the bag down to a guy on the ground, he grabs it with his hands, switches bags for outgoing mail and the pilots climbs a bit to clear the trees then just straightens out and begins reeling in the new bag! lol But I dont think a C-130 could do a turn that tight or at leaste it would be a VERY long cable lol "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us". George Orwell Fighting For Justice With Brains Of Steel ! <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/atengun2X.GIF" border=0> |
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| Author: | MrMudd [ 17 Jul 2004, 23:54 ] |
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Yes im absolutely positive. They are JSOC birds now. It is a configuarability kit. As far as canceling it for an accident. If we had concerns about that we wouldnt have Airborne troops falling out of helicopters at Change of command reviews and would have abandoned, parachute, HRST, Air Assualt, Spie, STABO etc. You may not see any of the MC-130's with them, but they are setup for it, and can be field installed for contingencies. It is apart of their mission.. "The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 18 Jul 2004, 04:09 ] |
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With all the safety warnings & programs in place in the AF today, it's hard to sometimes realize that if safety really were priority 1, there would be no Air Force. We'd all be sitting in our houses covered in bubble wrap breathing through air purifiers. |
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| Author: | poke [ 18 Jul 2004, 20:33 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> You sure about that, Mudd? Website I ran across says it fell out of favor after it killed a guy in '82, and they phased it out completely in '96. Not saying it hasn't been brought back since, just saying that's what the information I've found tells me.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> My eyes tell me that the 130s here did it last week. And though all involved were drunk at the time, I was offered that very ride by one of the local Herc pilots a while back. They do it for proficiency (and entertainment, knowing those guys.) TG- you mean I DON'T need all this bubble wrap??? Well, crap... But I'm keeping my air purifier! |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 18 Jul 2004, 20:44 ] |
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Cool. I remember seeing them do a demo at an airshow here about 15 years ago. Talk about a money-maker ride, I can just see the sign now,"You must be [this] tall to use the Fulton recovery system." Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. |
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| Author: | Smitty216 [ 19 Jul 2004, 20:22 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> With all the safety warnings & programs in place in the AF today, it's hard to sometimes realize that if safety really were priority 1, there would be no Air Force. We'd all be sitting in our houses covered in bubble wrap breathing through air purifiers. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I do that now, except I'm under my bed in the dark. Smitty |
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| Author: | TinyGiant [ 19 Jul 2004, 23:51 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I do that now, except I'm under my bed in the dark. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> That's disgusting. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 20 Jul 2004, 00:22 ] |
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LOL, Smitty you're a funny SOB dude.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" Ronald Reagan |
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| Author: | bigross86 [ 20 Jul 2004, 06:22 ] |
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Ah, Smitty. I trained him well... (Play along dude, I've got a reputation to upkeep...) "Retreat, hell! We just got here!"-Captain Lloyd Williams, 2nd Marine Division, Belleau Wood, France, WWI |
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| Author: | Thunderstruck [ 20 Jul 2004, 12:36 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> With all the safety warnings & programs in place in the AF today, it's hard to sometimes realize that if safety really were priority 1, there would be no Air Force. We'd all be sitting in our houses covered in bubble wrap breathing through air purifiers. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I do that now, except I'm under my bed in the dark. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Bring out the gimp! ATTACK! |
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| Author: | Smitty216 [ 20 Jul 2004, 17:35 ] |
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The Gimps in the shop getting an oil change. He also blew a seal. The seal did'nt mind but I had to get the gimp detailed afterward.<img src=newicons/tard.gif border=0 align=middle> Smitty |
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