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| Author: | mattlott [ 20 Aug 2004, 13:09 ] |
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As they say in the ad the POWs wouldn't say the thing kerry said of his own free will even under torcher. I can not believe the Democrats nominated this clown. A strong democratic party would be good for the nation to improve the debate instead it appears that they went for the 'hero'. As Rush said the other day no body knows how many medal Bush Sr or Dole had from WW2 because they didnt bragg about their awards. And no one can claim dole did not deserve his purple heart. link to add http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/sellout.mpg |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 20 Aug 2004, 15:47 ] |
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Wow, that was a tremendously powerful ad. I hope it's played nationwide. "I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum...and i'm all out of bubblegum". |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 20 Aug 2004, 18:37 ] |
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hey this is what happens when you have moveon.org and other groups formed. Cann't help it if George Soros spend 10s of millions, and the Republicans fought back for a few million and got a bigger bang by using Kerry's own words against him. Kerry should say what is inaccurate and move on (lol) rather than whine. ____________________ Kerry, Bush Escalate Battle Over Vietnam Ads Email this story Aug 20, 7:29 PM (ET) By Carol Giacomo and Adam Entous FORT MYERS, Fla./CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - Democrat John Kerry asked the Federal Election Commission on Friday to force Republican critics to withdraw ads challenging his military service and accused the Bush campaign of illegally helping coordinate the attacks as the presidential race took a decidedly bitter turn. Bush's campaign advisers denied any involvement in advertisements by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and the White House, in a new line of attack, criticized Kerry for "losing his cool" over the accusations. President Bush and his top political adviser have long-standing ties to people who helped finance the ads, which accuse Kerry of lying about his service record in Vietnam. Kerry frequently cites his Vietnam record, which his supporters contrast with those of Bush, who spent the war in the United States serving in the Texas Air National Guard. The Kerry campaign alleged the Swift Boat group violated "the law with inaccurate ads that are illegally coordinated with the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign and Republican National Committee." The Kerry campaign said there is "overwhelming evidence" that the group is coordinating its spending on advertising and other activities with the Bush campaign. Aides to Kerry cited a flyer distributed by Republicans in Florida promoting a weekend rally sponsored in part by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Bush campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel denied any coordination with the Swift Boat group, calling it "a frivolous complaint." Proving "coordination" between the campaign and the Swift Boat group could be difficult and time consuming. "It's not a short process. Cases vary depending on their complexity," said Ian Stirton, spokesman for the FEC. FURTHER ESCALATION Kerry escalated the battle over the Swift Boat ads on Thursday by charging that the group was "a front for the Bush campaign" funded by hundreds of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor in Texas, Bush's home state. White House spokesman Scott McClellan described the Republican donor, Bob Perry, as "a supporter" of the president, and acknowledged Perry's personal ties with Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove. "But that still shouldn't be used to draw any connection there because we have not been involved in this ad whatsoever," McClellan told reporters near Bush's Crawford, Texas ranch. McClellan said Kerry was "angry" about the advertising campaign, adding: "His losing his cool shouldn't be an excuse to falsely attack the president." Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot said in an interview on CNN that Kerry looked "wild-eyed" talking about it. Kerry campaign spokesman David Wade responded tersely: "Maybe if George Bush had seen combat up close, his hired gun mouthpiece wouldn't be so flip about the dishonest and dishonorable attack funded by the President's Texas pals." Kerry aides compared Bush's new line of attack against Kerry to the campaign mounted by Bush's allies in the 2000 Republican primary race to portray Sen. John McCain as too "unstable" and temperamental to be president. The White House has declined to specifically condemn the Swift Boat commercials, and the group announced on Friday that it would launch a new round of television ads next week with spots in three states where Kerry has touted his military service. The White House, instead, has challenged Kerry to join Bush in calling for an end to all ads funded by unrestricted donations, including those questioning Bush's service in the National Guard. Kerry has condemned one of those ads, but McClellan says his campaign has actively fueled some of the attacks. Over the last 12 months, groups favoring the Democrats have spent $63.5 million on ads attacking Bush, according to the Bush campaign, which filed its own FEC complaint earlier this year alleging "coordination" between Kerry and the left-leaning groups. Perry has contributed $200,000 to Swift Boat Veterans, according to an analysis by Texans for Public Justice, a nonpartisan research organization that tracks money in Texas politics. Records show Perry is also a long-time Bush supporter. He contributed $46,000 to Bush's 1994 and 1998 campaigns for Texas governor, and has contributed the maximum allowable $2,000 to Bush's current reelection. Perry also worked with Rove as early as 1986 when Perry served as campaign treasurer for Republican gubernatorial candidate William Clements and Rove served as a campaign consultant and fundraiser, Texans for Public Justice said. Perry was the largest single contributor to the Texas Republican Party during the 2002 election cycle, giving $905,000. |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 20 Aug 2004, 18:42 ] |
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afterall isnt politics a contact sport. If this really bothers Kerry and he needs to stand up and say why he did what he did when he came home from Vietnam. Why there are discrepancies in the after action reports ect. The Democrats spent years focusing on Bush's service and Kerry is saying we should vote for him because he went to Vietnam. But we are not supposed to ask what kind of commander he was--like did all the men under him want to fragg him. Which according to movies made by liberals ( like Oliver Stone) about Vietnam was common. |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 22 Aug 2004, 11:01 ] |
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[urlhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/index.html/url] THIS JUST SHOWS HOW VETERANS HAVE BEEN DIVIDED BY THIS 2004 RACE. ITS PRETTY HARD TO CALL ANYONE A LIAR,BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THERE DONT TELL THE SAME STORY. MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP. |
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