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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2004, 17:14 
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I thought this was a good look at the differences between left and right. To me it explains a lot, such as how Bill Clinton can get a pass for hitting on every woman in sight.



www.townhall.com/columnis...0921.shtml

The left thinks legally, the right thinks morally
Dennis Prager
September 21, 2004
To understand the worldwide ideological battle -- especially the one between America and Western Europe and within America itself -- one must understand the vast differences between leftist and rightist worldviews and between secular and religious (specifically Judeo-Christian) values.
One of the most important of these differences is their attitudes toward law. Generally speaking, the Left and the secularists venerate, if not worship, law. They put their faith in law -- both national and international. Law is the supreme good. For most on the Left, "Is it legal?" is usually the question that determines whether an action is right or wrong.
Take the war in Iraq. The chief leftist argument against the war -- before it began, not later when no weapons of mass destruction were found -- was that without U.N. sanction, attacking Iraq violated international law.
Whatever their feelings about George W. Bush or about attacking Iraq, for most of those on the Left, the rightness or wrongness of toppling Saddam Hussein's regime was determined by its legality (i.e., whether it was authorized by the U.N. Security Council). On the other hand, for those who supported attacking Iraq, whether the war was deemed legal played no role in their assessment of its rightness or wrongness.
To those who supported removing Saddam Hussein by force, if the United Nations did not authorize it, it was a reflection on the morality of the United Nations, not the morality of the war.
International law thus provides a clear example of the Left-Right divide. To the Left, an international action is right if nations such as China, Russia, France and Syria vote for it, and wrong if they vote against it. To the Right and to the religious, an action is good (or bad) irrespective of the votes of the world's nations. They judge it by a code of morality higher than international law.
To cite one other contemporary example, the Left throughout the world opposed Israel's 1981 air strike razing Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactor, thereby destroying his ability to manufacture nuclear weapons.
Among major American newspapers, only the conservative Wall Street Journal supported the strike along with various religious Jewish and Christian groups. From The New York Times to Le Monde to your local university, there was outrage that Israel had acted against international law. It meant nothing to their judgment of Israel's action that the leading mass murderer of the time had his nuclear weapons facility destroyed with the loss of but one life. All that mattered was that it was illegal.
To the Left, legality matters most, while to the Right, legality matters far less than morality. To the Right and to the religious, the law, when it is doing its job, is only a vehicle to morality, never a moral end in itself. Even the Left has to acknowledge this. When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat to a white man on a Montgomery, Ala., bus in 1955, she violated the law. Therefore, anyone who thinks she did the right thing is acknowledging that law must be subservient to morality. Why, then, must the overthrowing of Saddam Hussein be subject to international law as determined by Communist China, neo-KGB Russia, amoral France and the thugs who rule Syria?
The answer is to be found in the Left's substitution of legal for moral.
And why is the Left so enamored of law?
First, the Left, which is largely secular, regards morality not as absolute, but as relative. This inevitably leads to moral confusion, and no one likes to be morally confused. So instead of moral absolutes, the Left holds legal absolutes. "Legal" for the Left is what "moral" is for the Right. The religious have a belief in God-based moral law, and the Left believes in man-made law as the moral law.
Second, whereas they cannot change God's laws, those on the Left can and do make many of society's laws.
In fact, the Left is intoxicated with law-making. It gives them the power to mold society just as Judeo-Christian values did in the past. Unless one understands that leftist ideals function as a religion, one cannot understand the Left.
Laws are the Left's vehicles to earthly salvation. Virtually all human problems have a legal solution.
Some men harass women? Pass laws banning virtually every flirtatious action a man might engage in vis a vis a woman. Flood legislatures with laws preventing the creation of a "hostile work environment." Whereas the religious world has always worked to teach men how to act toward women, the secular world, lacking these religious values, passes laws to control men.
In fact, since it lacks the self-control apparatus that is a major part of religion, the Left passes more and more laws to control people. That is why there is a direct link between the decline in Judeo-Christian religion and the increase in governmental laws controlling human behavior.

Of course, the more laws that are passed, the less liberty society enjoys. But to the Left, which elevates any number of values above liberty -- e.g., compassion, equality, fairness -- this presents little problem.
All this helps to explain the Left's preoccupation with controlling courts; passing laws; producing, enriching and empowering lawyers; filing lawsuits; and naming judges. Laws and the makers of laws will produce heaven on earth.
And that's one reason the Left hates the America represented by George W. Bush. This country under this president says morality is higher than man-made law. To the Left, that, not Saddam Hussein's torture and rape rooms, must be fought.


Some people can't think for themselves so they vote democratic


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2004, 18:28 
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SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IN ALL THAT JIBBERISH IS THAT IF YOUR A SO CALLED "LEFT" YOUR ANTI RELIGION AND IF YOUR "RIGHT" THAN YOUR PRO-RELIGION?.

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS LAYED DOWN VALUES,BASED ON JUDA-CHIRSTAIN BELIEFS,BUT MADE SURE THAT "CHURCH AND STATE IS SPERATE". BUT THEY WE'RE ALL MASIONS TO.

ONES MORALES COME FROM FROM ONES UP BRINGING,TOO BELIEFS AND THE LAWS LAIDED DOWN BY ONES GOVERMENT.

SO IF I'M A MUSLIUM AND ALLALH SAYS ITS OK TO KILL JEWS AND CHIRSTAINS THEN MORALLY I'M RIGHT
IF I'M JEWISH AND GOD SAYS IT OK TO KILL ARABS THEN I'M MORALLY RIGHT
IF I'M CHRISTAIN AND MY GOD SAYS THAT THEIR BOTH WRONG THEN MORALLY ITS OK TO KILL THEM (WHICH HAS HAPPENED)

THE LAWS ARE BASED ON WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS AND FELLS IS MORAL.

NO ONES MORALS ARE BETTERS THAN SOMEONE ELSE'S ONLY IN THE EYES OF YOUR ALLIES OR ENEMIES DOES THE CHOICE MATTER.

PLUS IF ALL FOLKS ON THE RIGHT WERE MORALLY GUIDED THEN,BEER AND PRONO
WOULDNT BE FOUND IN ONES HOMES OR TAKE PART IN. BUT ITS A FREEDOM WROTE INTO A MAN MADE LAW

THE PROBLEM COMES DOWN TO IS MAN NEEDS LAWS TO LIVE BY,AND EVEN IF BASED ON RELIGION MAN STILL INTERPTS THEM IN DIFFEREANT WAYS MOST OF THE TIME HIS OWN TO FIT HIS OWN NEEDS ,WANTS AND OUT COME HE WANTS.
NO ONE SHOULD COMPLETELY WRAP THEIRSELF IN ONE PARTIES BELIEFS.
IF YOU DO YOUR AN EXTREMEMIST

PLUS TO COME RIGHT TO IT ONLY GOD OR WHOEVER YOU BELIEVE DECIDIES IN THE END WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG.

MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP.

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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2004, 18:40 
"NO ONES MORALS ARE BETTERS THAN SOMEONE ELSE'S ONLY IN THE EYES OF YOUR ALLIES OR ENEMIES DOES THE CHOICE MATTER."

I don't believe that at all Goose.

Mine and your morals are far, far, far superior to Saddam Hussiens...or a rapists, or a murderers, or an arsonists, etc, etc.

There is good and evil in this world, i believe that...and i believe that it is true that there is evil on both the far right and the far left...but if you look at the death tolls- the left has done about 5x the killing. Mao, Stalin and Co. racked up quite a body count in the 20th century.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2004, 19:36 
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THE LEFT IS A TITLE THAT A PERSON ASSIGNS BY THEIR OWN BELIEFS,
DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE YOUR ON DETERMINS WHO'S RIGHT AND LEFT,EVIL OR GOOD.

I'M SURE STALIN,MAIO AND HITLER THOUGHT THEY WE'RE RIGHT.

WE BELIEVE IN GOOD AND EVIL JUST AS HOBIEE DOES,THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERS IS WHO'S SIDE YOUR OWN.
SAME THING IN THIS THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN A WAR HERO AND A WAR CRIMMINAL IS WHO WINS OR LOOSES.

NOT ALL DEMOCRATES BELIEVE ABORTION IS RIGHT,JUST LIKE NOT ALL REPUBLICANS BELIEVE ABORTION IS WRONG.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE LABEL A GROUP THEIR PASSING THEIR VIEWS ON HOW THEY JUDGE THEM.

SO REALLY I WOULD SAY THE EVIL SIDE HAS DONE 5X MORE DEATH AND DESRUCTION THEN THE GOOD.


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Why did they choose left as name? It insults us left-handed geniuses.

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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2004, 00:08 
Hey, i'm a left handed genius too. ;)

LOL...

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