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Author:  Lil Hitler [ 02 Dec 2004, 13:31 ]
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Just found this in my local news paper, has any heard or know about any background info on this?


By ROBERT WELLER
Associated Press Writer

Citing national security, the Army closed a hearing Thursday on whether three soldiers will be court-martialed for allegedly suffocating an Iraqi general during an interrogation last year.

Allowing the public and the media to observe "would cause serious damage to national security" and could jeopardize the defendants' safety, investigating officer Capt. Robert Ayers said.

The Article 32 hearing, the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, began shortly afterward.

An attorney for The Denver Post had argued that the closing of the proceedings should be limited to testimony that could threaten national security.

"This is information the American people are profoundly and legitimately interested in knowing," Steve Zansberg said. He also said many details in the death have already been publicized.

But Ayers said the entire hearing would be closed to the public.

The three defendants and one other soldier are accused of smothering Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush, 57, at Qaim, Iraq, in November 2003. The soldiers could get life in prison without parole if convicted.

Chief Warrant Officers Jefferson Williams and Lewis Welshofer Jr., Sgt. 1st Class William Sommer and Spc. Jerry Loper are charged with murder and dereliction of duty. Welshofer's hearing will be held later.

Williams, Sommer and Welshofer are with military intelligence. All four soldiers were assigned to Fort Carson at the time of Mowhoush's death.

At least 19 prisoner deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan have been investigated as homicides by the military; eight were determined to be justified killings of an escaping or dangerously violent prisoner


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Author:  Hawg166 [ 02 Dec 2004, 21:55 ]
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Yeah I agree with you to an extent but wouldnt it be better to tie them down and cut around their nipples with a razor then peel them off in quarters to get the same affect without the possibility of kiling them ? Pumping them with NoDoze before doing it willalso cut off the bodies ability to force unconsciousness due to pain, further adding to the hurt. There are many ways to get what you want out of someone. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson
Author:  M21 Sniper [ 02 Dec 2004, 22:02 ]
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" Sounds like we have a number of soldiers who think US Military Law or even international laws don't apply to them."

Sounds like we have a bunch of realists that know what's required to get a religious zealot to talk...

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
~ Friedrich Nietzsche
Author:  Stinger [ 03 Dec 2004, 07:25 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Sounds like we have a number of soldiers who think US Military Law or even <b>international laws </b>don't apply to them.

For a woman to be a lesbian in a male-supremacist, capitalist, misogynist, racist, homophobic, imperialist culture, such as that of North America, is an act of resistance" (Cheryl Clarke, 1981)
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> until "international law" is applied fairly and equally to EVERYONE ELSE it shouldn't apply to us... as opposed to the way it works now, where it only applies to us.

You come into this world defenseless. That's why God gave us baseball bats. Well, he gave us trees. But we knew what he meant.


Edited by - Stinger on Dec 03 2004 06:26 AM
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