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| Author: | mattlott [ 28 Jan 2005, 07:19 ] |
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You know sometimes you get a problem that makes you go hum. Any ideas lol <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> Massive cow manure mound burns for third month Friday, January 28, 2005 Posted: 7:59 AM EST (1259 GMT) A huge mound of cow manure smolders at a feedlot near Milford, Nebraska. mILFORD, Nebraska (AP) -- Urban dwellers who enjoy dining on filet mignon at five-star restaurants would probably just as soon not know about David Dickinson's dilemma. Bad for the appetite, you know. But Dickinson, who makes his living in the cattle business, has an environmental problem on his hands that is vexing state officials: a 2,000-ton pile of burning cow manure. Dickinson owns and manages Midwest Feeding Co. about 20 miles west of Lincoln, which takes in as many as 12,000 cows at a time from farmers and ranchers and fattens them for market. Byproducts from the massive operation resulted in a dung pile measuring 100 feet long, 30 feet high and 50 feet wide that began burning about two months ago and continues to smolder despite Herculean attempts to douse it. While city folks might have trouble imagining a dung pile of such proportions, they are common sites in rural states. In July, crews fighting a blaze in a three-acre manure lagoon at a dairy farm in Washington smothered the flames with more of the same -- a blanket of wet cow manure. In December, Montana officials ordered the owner of a horse feedlot to extinguish a large manure fire that sent a stench over a nearby town. The Nebraska Department of Environmental Quality has informed Dickinson that his smoldering dung pile violates clean-air laws and is working with him to find the best solution to extinguish it, said agency spokesman Rich Webster. Simply dumping water on the heap is not the answer, Webster said, because of concerns about runoff to any nearby water source. Dickinson first tried using heavy equipment to spread out the smoldering pile and extinguish the fire. "But the problem was, it started in another spot," he said. "We've also had the fire department out a couple of times." And still it burns. No one is sure how the fire started, but a common theory is that heat from the decomposing manure deep inside the pile eventually ignited the manure. Wilma Roth, who manages a restaurant along Interstate 80 about a mile north of the feedlot, said her customers have complained about the smoke, which wafts for miles. "I'd just as soon forget about it," she said. Dickinson said the smoke is not particularly malodorous -- although that comes from a man who works full-time around manure. "I guess it's just all perspective," he said. "To me, it just smells like smoke. I really don't know how to describe it." Decades ago, most farmers and ranchers kept their own cows and pigs until they were shipped to market and slaughtered into filet mignon, hamburger, pork chops and bacon. And with all those animals spread far apart at thousands of farms, it was easier to dispose of the manure. But huge feedlots -- where animals are shipped to fatten on a high-grain diet for their last several months -- have become commonplace. Dickinson has an average of 12,000 animals on hand, each eating about 25 pounds of feed daily, resulting in as much as nine pounds of manure a day per animal -- some 54 tons every 24 hours. Most big feedlots spread the manure over farm fields or compost it to spread later or sell commercially to gardeners. Farmers in several states are experimenting with using the methane gas from livestock manure to produce electricity. The manure is heated and produces methane gas as it breaks down. The gas is collected and used to power a generator, which sends electricity onto a power grid. Dickinson acknowledged that while some folks see the humor in his predicament, he takes the fire seriously. "It's a nuisance, and obviously we are trying to get it resolved," he said. "Everybody's been really patient." |
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| Author: | tomas [ 31 Jan 2005, 06:55 ] |
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I agree the heat and pressure of the biogas would start a fire and water would just make it worse might i suggest using urine? it works on greek fire and might work on this too. the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his |
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| Author: | 44hollowpoint [ 31 Jan 2005, 08:22 ] |
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Sell it to Disney as their newest family attraction... Bring your kids to Shit World, Let them marvel at the eternal fires of doom. Great for toasting Marshmellows. Let them play in the fetid paddling pools of stale urine. Great for burning off hard skin and warts from the soles of your feet. Take the walk of death. How much weight will the hardend crust on top of the shit heap take. Extra prizes for those willing to risk going on with the token fat kid from school. The possibilities are endless... "A .44 magnum beats 4 Aces everytime..." |
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| Author: | M&M [ 07 Feb 2005, 22:32 ] |
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HOLY CRAP!!! (pun intended) I drove by that shit pile on the way to my brothers wedding last week. The guy in the article must have killed off his olfactory senses years ago. I'm hear to tell ya.......that was really bad. I grew up on a farm and a 12,000 herd feedlot does NOT score points in the neighborhood. <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> When you add the acrid smoke into the equation its a real nose hair curler. "face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!" |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 08 Feb 2005, 07:50 ] |
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AROUND HERE,WE DO HAVE BIG FARMS THAT USE THE METHANE GAS FROM THE MANURE TO RUN FARMS AND SELL OFF THE EXCESS. THE LAND FILLS DO THE SAME THING. I'VE SEEN ALOT OF DAIRY FARMS,PLUS THE ONE I WORKED FOR IN HIGH SCHOOL USE "SLURRY PONDS" PLUS FOR THE HOG OPERATIONS TOO,AND PIG SH!# SMELLS WORST! THEY DUG A POND I THINK 2 ACRES AND LINED IT WITH LIME STONE AND SAND PLUS A RUBBER MEMBRANE OF SOME SORT TO PROTECT THE WATER SUPPLY. THE MANURE IS THEN MIXED WITH WATER LOADED WITH "BACTRIA" (REALLY YEAST)TO HELP BREAK IT DOWN. A HARD CRUST FROMS ON TOP AND NO SMELL AT ALL,JUST DONT TAKE A SHORT CUT ACROSS THE BACK PEN<img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_puke.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> THEN 2 TIMES A YEAR THEY BRING IN SLURRY TRUCKS TO DRAIN IT WITHOUT BREAKING THE CRUST AND THEY HAUL IT AWAY TO USE ON FIELDS,COMPOST FACTORY'S,ETC.... PRETTY COOL SET -UP EXPENSIVE YES,BUT THE FARMERS I SAW DOING IT IN 5 YEARS HAD IT PAID FOR ITSELF AND NOW TURNS A PROFIT. THIS LOOK AT AS A ABOVE GROUND SEPTIC TANK OF SORTS. YOU DONT GET THE FIRE PROBLEM OR SMELL. MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP. |
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| Author: | tomas [ 09 Feb 2005, 01:44 ] |
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really? thats cool but i got a better use for the yeast <img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle> the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his |
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| Author: | Homer32 [ 09 Feb 2005, 11:45 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Sell it to Disney as their newest family attraction... Bring your kids to Shit World, Let them marvel at the eternal fires of doom. Great for toasting Marshmellows. Let them play in the fetid paddling pools of stale urine. Great for burning off hard skin and warts from the soles of your feet. Take the walk of death. How much weight will the hardend crust on top of the shit heap take. Extra prizes for those willing to risk going on with the token fat kid from school. The possibilities are endless... "A .44 magnum beats 4 Aces everytime..." <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> <b>You</b> are one weird dude.... "Did you know? You can use your old motor oil to fertilize your lawn! -- Environmental Protection Agency." |
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| Author: | Racegal8 [ 09 Feb 2005, 12:58 ] |
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I thought that too homer....but you know tourists would actually come see it....and they would make sure to have their cameras! <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> "The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously!" -Friedrich Nietzsche- |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 09 Feb 2005, 18:31 ] |
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PEOPLE DONT GET OUT MUCH ANYMORE DO THEY?<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> PUT IT ON THE MAP AND PEOPLE WOULD GO VISIT LIKE LETS SAY "THE DINOSAUR GRAVEYARD". OUTSIDE OF LARIME WYO. COMMING HOME FROM TRAVIS ON I-80 WITH A 3&5 YR OLD AINT FUN WITH A 5 SPEED<img src=newicons/pain10.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>LOADED DOWN. SO WE STOPPED IN LARIME WYO. TO REST. THE GIRLS WANTED TO SEE DINOSAURS SO ON THE MAP 50 MILES AWAY WAS MARKED "DINOSAUR GRAVE YARD" DROVE OUT IN TO THE BOONIES LOOKING AND GOT TO THE POINT ON THE MAP AND IT WAS JUST A "BIG GAS STORE" DROVE BY IT AND AROUND COULDNT FIND IT. STOPPED FOR GAS AND ASKED"WHERE IS IT"? THE LADY SAID "RIGHT HERE" BUT YOU HAD TO PAY TO SEE IT. OK GAVE HER A $20.00 AND DIDNT GET MUCH BACK,WALKED DOWN THIS DIRT PATH AND SAW THIS "HUGE HOLE WITH NOTHING INIT" SO WE WALKED BACK UP AND ASKED WERE THE "BONE ARE"? "OH,THEIR AT THE MUSEUM IN LARIME"<img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/madani.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_cussing.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_furious.gif border=0 align=middle> BECAUSE THE MOTEL WAS ONLY 5 BLOCKS FROM THE MUSEUM. SO I HAD MY FIRST "TOURIST TRAP" NEVER AGAIN! THEY COULD PUT ON THE MAP "ENDLESS FLAME" AND SOMEONE WOULD HAVE A "GOOSE MOMENT"! MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP. |
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| Author: | 44hollowpoint [ 10 Feb 2005, 01:58 ] |
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LOL... 20 bucks to look at a hole in the gound..! Goose, I know you must have been blowing sparks, but it's still Damn funny... "A .44 magnum beats 4 Aces everytime..." |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 10 Feb 2005, 05:13 ] |
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Wouldn't be surprised if there weren't <b>two</b> holes in the ground when he left!<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> So, you have trouble. We all have trouble. Build a bridge and get over it. |
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| Author: | 44hollowpoint [ 10 Feb 2005, 05:53 ] |
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LOL, I can just see it at the nearest AFB... Goose trying to justify why he wants to 'borrow' a laser designator for the weekend. "A .44 magnum beats 4 Aces everytime..." |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 10 Feb 2005, 08:21 ] |
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BELIEVE ME,MY 2 GIRLS LEARNED A FEW <img src=newicons/anim_cussing.gif border=0 align=middle>WORDS THAT DAY<img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> I SHOULD OF CALLED "SAC" AND HAD A BUFF FLYBY. THE BAD THING IS ,IT WAS ON A RAND ROAD MAP,SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST TRUSTED ROAD MAP.<img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle> MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP. |
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