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PostPosted: 26 Apr 2005, 14:19 
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Off to Korea for a few days.

Don't know if any of you guys have ever been stationed any where near Seoul or not, but I'm looking for two recomendations...

a) Where's a good place to get pissed?

b) What breed of dog tastes the best. And is it worth paying the extra for a pure breed <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>..?

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<img src=newicons/Whatever_anim.gif border=0 align=middle>they prefer cats, or what?

http://www.koreananimals.org/cho1.htm

Dog Meat is No Traditional Korean Food

by Sue Cho

As a Korean, I find it very insulting that some people talk about dog meat as if it was a real Korean traditional cuisine. Dog meat eaters often claim that dog meat is good for their health. There is no sicentific or medical truth to back up this claim. According to the research by Koreans and Westerners, it was found that there is no better or special nutrition with dog meat compared to other livestock. It has higher fat content than other livestock. There is more risk to develop Palsy. From a public health point of view, it is unfortunate that these lies are widespread among dog-eaters as there are far more Koreans these days who suffer from heart attack, high blood pressure and Palsy than before due to over consumption of high calorie food.

Dog meat, although some Koreans accept it, there are also other Koreans who do not as it results from disheartening cruelties, misconception and greed. Some Koreans have been eating dogs in some part of our country and in some times in our history but it never has been eaten by the majority of Koreans as Korea was for a long time a Buddhist country and still many people believe in Buddhism.

A few traces in our history and continuing practice by selfish and heartless people do not make dog consumption as our culture. Truth known, dog eaters in Korea are mostly middle and upper class, middle aged men with power and position. They barricade themselves from the majority Koreans-non dog eaters and tries their best to indoctrinate others to believe it is our culture and protect their myth that says dog meat will boost their sexual energy.

Korean traditional food is simple and honest. There is no disguise with colour or fake smell and, most of all, there is no deliberate cruelties on animals with Korean traditional food. If we look at the names of Korean traditional food, most Korean food names are followed with its main ingredients. Dog meat is called "Four season stew, Nutrition stew, Body healing stew" which doesn't sound like Korean traditional food but very much sound like business invention.
Also the cruelty involved in producing dog meat makes it a very unlikely candidate for traditional food. The dog meat traders beat dogs to death so that all the blood vessel would burst and the meat become red.

Another point is Koreans tend not to disguise the smell of its natural source. If Tofu or cabbages are preserved, although they smell very strong, our ancestors still didn't put any herbs or alcohols to make the original smell fake aromatic. However, with dog meat, they are using different kinds of herbs to erase the smell of dog, which is again very unlike Korean traditional food.

Even though people know that dogs and cats are much more involved in human society, some, especially dog meat eaters, would insist that cow, pig, poultry, fish, dogs, cats and etc are the same. This totally ignores the fact that one of the reasons we value human life more is because of our relationship to each other and our emotional, social capacity. But let us consider some would want to insist on the equality so that no animal will be killed for food. That will be surely better for animals and us?

Unfortunately this equality theory has been abused to justify eating dogs, cats and other kind of animals with uncommon intelligence anywhere in the world and to increase the number of animal species available for human consumption. This type of use would not make our life any better but lead us to destroy the uncommon gift and blessings we have, the trust and bond we form with our companion animals. It is far more positive to encourage each other to cut down the species of animals available for human consumption. That way, we will be closer to make our life more peaceful and respectable.

Respecting another country's culture shows open mindedness but it needs to be done with thoughtful care and not in irresponsible manner for the very sake of the country you want to understand and show respect. In Korea, there is a word, "Me-Pung-Yang-Sok" which means "Beautiful custom and good morals" and refers when one culture deserves respect. I have never heard any Koreans call Dog meat as "Me-Pung-Yang-Sok".

Dog meat consumption is NOT a real Korean traditional food but the base of animal cruelty in Korea.


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this might be useful:

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Food/f-manners.cfm

man, that sounds complicated!!


General Table Manners
At first, taste soup or kimchi juice, and then try rice or other dishes. Use spoon for rice and liquid foods, such as stews or soups; use chopsticks for other foods.


Do not make noises with spoon or chopsticks hitting the rice bowl or other food containers.


Do not hold the rice bowl or soup bowl in your hand during the meal.


Do not poke around the rice or side dishes with the spoon.


Do not pick out what you don't like or shake off seasonings.


Do not leave any trace of food on the spoon while eating.


During the meal, uneatable parts such as bones or fish bones are quietly discarded by wrapping them in a paper so that others won't see them. Do not put them on the table or floor.


When coughing or sneezing during a meal, face the other way from table and cover your mouth with your hand or napkin.


Eat the rice and side dishes from one side.


Do not use your hands to pick the foods.


Chew food with your closed mouth and do not make noises while chewing.


Do not leave the table while eating.


Do not read a book or newspaper or watch TV while eating.


Do not reach across the table for distant food- ask a nearby person to pass it to you.


Use an individual plate for foods served for a crowd, and also for sauces such as soy & vinegar sauce or sweet & sour hot pepper soybean paste.


Try to keep pace with others by eating not too fast or too slow. When having a meal with the elderly, wait for them to put the spoon and chopsticks on the table at the end of the meal.


At the end of the meal, pour sungnyung (boiled water in the rice cooker or scorched-rice tea) into the rice bowl and drink.


After a meal, put the spoon and chopsticks on the spot where they were placed first and put used napkins on the table after folding it little bit if they are big.


When using a toothpick, cover your mouth with one hand and discard it the toothpick afterwards so others won't see it.


oh, I forgot the more important Drinking Manners...

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Food/d-manners.cfm



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I dont trust any peoples that eat dogs.



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to what Homer posted I will add put your Sig down on the table in front of you and eat any way you want to <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Off to Korea for a few days.

Don't know if any of you guys have ever been stationed any where near Seoul or not, but I'm looking for two recomendations...

a) Where's a good place to get pissed?

<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

A good place to get pissed? You mean, as in mad or pissed off?

Being back in Korea for any length of time would get me pissed!


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he's English
pissed=sh*t faced lol

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>he's English
pissed=sh*t faced lol <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Yep...

<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>...

I'm already pissed off (as in mad) because I'm flying economy <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'm already pissed off (as in mad) because I'm flying economy <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Sucks to be you!<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> No frequent flier miles for upgrading?

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You're all heart...

Got lots of air miles, but saving them to take the wife to the Maldives (cos I'm soft that way).

Well finally got something to eat by just pointing at a menu.

Not sure what I ate, but it definately used to live in the sea, had lots of legs/fins and was ugly enough to be BR's last shag...

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Not sure what I ate, but it definately used to live in the sea, had lots of legs/fins and was ugly enough to be BR's last shag...
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>with that last thought, how did you manage to not get horribly sick to your stomach?

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LOL,

Alcohol had dulled the gag reflex...

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I'll have you know, that my last shag was quite pretty. Remember, we're discussing MY last shag here, not YOUR'S

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You calling 44's wife a SHAG, BR? Uh, oh.<img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

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You're right M&M. That deserves editing. My bad.

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finger hovering over the edit button.....fighting the urge but I am feeling particularly weak today.

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Geez, BR, that comment <i>was</i> almost as stoopid!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Hold off awhile M&M...see if 44 (to paraphrase Charlie Daniels) "...reroutes his trip, via Is-ra-el". <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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However, I wouldn't mind if .44 reroutes his trip back via Is-ra-el. I'll show him the real good places and how to get pissed for real. Forget about cats or dogs. Here we eat real meat!

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Pork tenderloin? BLT's? Easter Ham?

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St Louis-style ribs???

<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

This inspired me to post a new thread.



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Nah, I'm talking about good meat (Not that I'd really know, having never eaten pig...) I'm talking about cow, lamb, sheep, stuff like that. Like from .44's kebab story...

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Just don't let 'im get your goat, BR!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I ain't got a goat, but I do got a beef with you <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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In Itaewan, right outside Yongsan. Lots of bars. Gecko's is a good one to start at.

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Cheers Coach,

I'm staying in Yeongdong Jamsil, just across the river from Itaewon.

I've got one night left so I'll see if I can drag my ass down there tonight.

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