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| Author: | Tritonal-05 [ 12 May 2005, 23:42 ] |
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<i>Class Dissection Of Live Dog Outrages Parents, Students Student: 'It Just Makes Me Sick...' POSTED: 8:12 am EDT May 12, 2005 UPDATED: 2:35 pm EDT May 12, 2005 A biology class lesson in Gunnison, Utah involving the dissection of a live dog has outraged some parents and students, according to a report. "I thought that it would be just really a good experience if they could see the digestive system in the living animal," Biology teacher Doug Bierregaard said. Biology teacher Doug Bjerregaard, who is a substitute teacher at Gunnison Valley High School, wanted his students to see how the digestive system of a dog worked. Bjerregaard made arrangements for his students to be a part of a dissection of a dog that was still alive. The dog was still alive, but the teacher said it was sedated before the dissection began. With the students watching, the sedated dog's digestive system was removed. "It just makes me sick and I don't think this should go on anywhere and nobody's learning from it," student Sierra Sears said. The teacher said the lesson would allow students to see the organs actually working. "I thought that it would be just really a good experience if they could see the digestive system in the living animal," Bierregaard said. The school's principal, Kirk Anderson, said notifications went to parents explaining the dog was going to be euthanized and that the experiment would be done with the dog's organs still functioning. The teacher is standing by his decision and calls it the ultimate educational experience. Principal Anderson said he supports the lesson and it will be allowed to continue because the students are learning. The dog used in the experiment was going to be euthanized despite the class project. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. </i> |
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| Author: | BenRoethig [ 13 May 2005, 05:47 ] |
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I think Mr. Bierregaard should be sedated and sent over to John Hopkins. "Nobody ever won a war dying for their country. You win wars by making the other son of a bitch die for his." - George S. Patton. My motto: pacis per vires |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 13 May 2005, 05:59 ] |
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Dissect his brain and see if IT'S working. Sounds like something from 1943 Nazi Germany. "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 13 May 2005, 07:39 ] |
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pj and other military medics get this type of training on trauma with vets supervision. It has a purpose then to save lives what the f**k was this teacher doing. There has to be a cost versus benifit analysis for this stuff and I can see no logical reason for this training. a sample of when this type of training has merit http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/b ... 2/art00013 http://www.iifar.org/perspectives.html The reason for this type of training is to teach the medic or doctor how to control bleeding and understand how to tie off living blood vessels. Because are not goog methods for simulating this for training purposes. |
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| Author: | Racegal8 [ 13 May 2005, 08:29 ] |
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Sedated....just Sedated?????? God damn, don't let me <u>ever</u> get my hands on this wothless waste of space. Most sedatives leave the animals still able to mildly feel what is going on, but just be too sleepy to care. This just isn't right! " When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane!" |
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| Author: | mattlott [ 13 May 2005, 10:08 ] |
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Rascal there are time this can be justified when it is the only means available to train combat medics and surgeons. Even then it is done so infrequently that it is an exception the rule. These students never should have done this. |
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| Author: | tomas [ 13 May 2005, 10:36 ] |
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that just sucks like some of you said open him up and watch his digestive systems work the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 13 May 2005, 11:43 ] |
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Sick fucking bastard. I'd like to dissect him... <img src=newicons/saevil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_cussing.gif border=0 align=middle> <b>There are two kinds of soldiers. Snipers...and targets.</b> <img src="http://www.creedmoorsports.com/images/SA9121-M21.JPG" border=0> |
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| Author: | FlyBoy [ 13 May 2005, 11:57 ] |
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I personally think it's fine and I would have like to seen the experiment. "Oh good for a second I thought it was me, because I am blue, and I like to sleep, but if he is dead that would just be silly."-Caboose |
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| Author: | 30mike-mike [ 13 May 2005, 12:40 ] |
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Hold still, Flyboy, and we'll give you a local. You can watch your own functions!<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig |
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| Author: | tomas [ 13 May 2005, 14:48 ] |
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guess its a matter of morals if you have none you wouldn't mind seeing it having morals you think its sick i personally think its just wrong and sounds illegal the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his |
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| Author: | FlyBoy [ 13 May 2005, 18:18 ] |
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it's just an animal. also I think that we need to do more exciting dynamic things in learning and maybe the student would want to pay more attention. back when humans were first learning this stuff this is how they explored such topics, why not do the same starting off with our students. maybe something like this will get some student excited about studying medicine? "Oh good for a second I thought it was me, because I am blue, and I like to sleep, but if he is dead that would just be silly."-Caboose |
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| Author: | Tritonal-05 [ 13 May 2005, 19:07 ] |
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In Rutgers' Cook College, they have/had a cow that had a transparent plastic skin in one section in its body that showed agricultural students the whole digestive process of the bovine. |
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| Author: | tomas [ 13 May 2005, 21:37 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> it's just an animal. also I think that we need to do more exciting dynamic things in learning and maybe the student would want to pay more attention. back when humans were first learning this stuff this is how they explored such topics, why not do the same starting off with our students. maybe something like this will get some student excited about studying medicine? "Oh good for a second I thought it was me, because I am blue, and I like to sleep, but if he is dead that would just be silly."-Caboose <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> if you can justify this by saying its JUST an animal then the person doing the experiment is one too lets check his organs out for size. the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his |
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| Author: | M&M [ 13 May 2005, 22:35 ] |
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This was on the news here in Utah the other night. Parents are up in arms over it. The dog was under a general anesthesia and was going to be euthanized afterwards. Most of the students found the whole thing distasteful as well. <img src="http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/457/bgnrjsiiw81q1gc.jpg" border=0> |
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