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"Some pup"
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Hey Dice....as a fellow (cough) janitor, I have a few nasty stains on the floor of the kitchen. Do you think I should use bleach or this fucktards head to clean them up. I actually cried laughing at this guy. He' probably scanning the chicken noodle network now looking for Mudds hookshot with the magic Maverick. You know, its the one made in the land of far away by the sugar plum fairies with their magic wands.....

Smitty

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Interestingly, I don't think I've ever flown with a Mav that had a dome cover installed.
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We had them on all the time over in the desert. We took to the habit of having them removed (or breaking them on the ground) because the charge that was supposed to shatter them kept failing in flight. Instant unusable Mav (depending on the model).

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I'd heard some of the units did, but I know my unit didn't have them in Iraq, and I can't remember if we had them in Jaber the year before.

Dome cover than won't come off........nice. Does make for an expensive air-ground rocket, though.

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I'd heard some of the units did, but I know my unit didn't have them in Iraq, and I can't remember if we had them in Jaber the year before.

Dome cover than won't come off........nice. Does make for an expensive air-ground rocket, though.
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When were you over in the sandbox? We were there from Feb-May 03. Of course, different squadrons have different standards. I think because of the rate we were using them, Weapons didn't have time to remove the covers before they had to be out on the flightline. Of couse, after a few stories of unusable Mavs, that changed pretty quick.

Smitty i believe he was Dreaming for Longbow hellfire 2 performance.

Those Bastards will Oblique and doppler track a target and in some cases They will go up t0 90 Degree's to a target dependent on the targets manuevering. Wicked missile.

A guided bomb doesnt have a propellent. All it has is a narrow terminal glide window in x amount of degrees that it can expend manuevering to the target. They are incapable of making any radial manuevering. The heavier they are the faster and further back you throw them which compounds the error. lase early...well you could miss by a mile...You can even hose a GPS bomb by manuevering it out of its glide alignment to the target on release. The weapon computers help with negating it. For both crew coordination and consent release. You have from 30-15 Sec to manuever it, around the 10 second mark your really commited Even though it was a commited falling rock a few minutes out...

The only Powered Precision weapon you can watch and manuever is the JSOW or Slamm-ER with a Data Link.

The AGM-62 Walleye provided you have the datalink will allow you to watch imagery to the target. (predominately a Naval system, although 16s can use it)

A couple optical precision Guide bombs will allow datalinked guidance and video in the glide. But they wont "right Hook a tarrget"

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

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GooD info MUDD. I'd like to hear more about the AGM-62. You have a good link?

The AGM-62 Walleye has been around since the 70's im sure their is plenty of data on it all over the Net. It proceeded the AGM-65 mavericks the Navy is more focused on the Mavericks now for the same performance and mission profile. But the AGM-62's are still in service.
Like I said above it will provide Flight Profile Video with a datalink to the target.

Maverick was more designed as a Quick response fire and forget weapon, Allowing a manuevering aircraft to setup for the attack, Launch and leave a threats counter offensive zone.

The walleye on the other hand is a system more suited to naval use since they are targeting ships and not doing pop up attacks from defolade. The navy is more concerned about Followup attacks on a target and need this video analysis to make a determination on on follow up attacks. What this means is that the naval pilot spends more time through the whole engagement profile focused on the primary target. Evaluating the result of the attack and determining if they need to continue processing attack profiles on the target. Due to the type of targets they are expected to kill

The CAS pilot is more concerned about rapid engagement and moving on to the next targets in the BAttle space, since the 1 maverick is plenty capable of removing that target from the fight.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

What of the AGM-130?

"Some pup"
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AGM-130 is the same as a glide bomb in its attack Profile...The only differnce being that. It carries itself to the Commited terminal glide point, allowing the Deploying aircraft to launch from outside of a Surface threats engagement zone. it is not an activiely powered manuevering Weapon. It simply gets a little range boost by the motor. Once it hits it's attack Employment zone, She is gliding in to the target. identical point that a aircraft would be releasing it. (this is a variable dependent on the inertia and speed potential. Same goes for a GBU)

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

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When were you over in the sandbox? We were there from Feb-May 03. Of course, different squadrons have different standards. I think because of the rate we were using them, Weapons didn't have time to remove the covers before they had to be out on the flightline. Of couse, after a few stories of unusable Mavs, that changed pretty quick.

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Did the sandbox Oct 03-Mar 04. Did Bagram the year prior.

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Did the sandbox Oct 03-Mar 04. Did Bagram the year prior.
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Same story. OIF Feb-Mar 03. We got turned right after returning from an OSW rotation in Nov 02-Jan 03. But got to spend a few weeks in Bagram in Dec 02. That was the best part of the trip!

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Smitty i believe he was Dreaming for Longbow hellfire 2 performance.

Those Bastards will Oblique and doppler track a target and in some cases They will go up t0 90 Degree's to a target dependent on the targets manuevering. Wicked missile.

A guided bomb doesnt have a propellent. All it has is a narrow terminal glide window in x amount of degrees that it can expend manuevering to the target. They are incapable of making any radial manuevering. The heavier they are the faster and further back you throw them which compounds the error. lase early...well you could miss by a mile...You can even hose a GPS bomb by manuevering it out of its glide alignment to the target on release. The weapon computers help with negating it. For both crew coordination and consent release. You have from 30-15 Sec to manuever it, around the 10 second mark your really commited Even though it was a commited falling rock a few minutes out...

The only Powered Precision weapon you can watch and manuever is the JSOW or Slamm-ER with a Data Link.

The AGM-62 Walleye provided you have the datalink will allow you to watch imagery to the target. (predominately a Naval system, although 16s can use it)

A couple optical precision Guide bombs will allow datalinked guidance and video in the glide. But they wont "right Hook a tarrget"

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

Edited by - mrmudd on Jul 09 2004 5:55 PM

Edited by - mrmudd on Jul 09 2004 5:59 PM
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Smitty