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PostPosted: 26 Feb 2006, 04:26 
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Heelo,
I'am looking for sites where I can find or buy A10 Flight manual. Do you have clues ?
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I think you might be smoking crack on this one. No one on this site is going to put you intouch with anything current or classified and your screen name really does not make anyone feel comfortable with that question.


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There are plenty of reputable places on the net flogging flight manuals,including the A-10......but don't expect them to be the latest version.


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Flight Manual -

First get the keys for the aircraft from the Operations Desk
Walk out to the aircraft
Put the key in the ignition switch
Start the engines
Tell the Crew Chief to pull chocks (optional)
Accelerate the engines and taxi to the end of runway
point the nose down the runway and accelerate the engines to full power, pull back on stick

there your flying the A-10 Warthog

What else do you need to know


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remember a few years back when that hog went missing. Was there ever a plausible reason relased for what happened?

I would hope the a-10 are harder to start than a firetruck without an ignition, just a switch.



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remember a few years back when that hog went missing. Was there ever a plausible reason relased for what happened?
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Eh? Are you talking about the C-130 (63-7789) that was stolen and crashed in the UK on May 23, 1969?

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no the pilot who got lost in the mountains all sorts of speculation about that was on the news, since the plane was not found fast.


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no the pilot who got lost in the mountains all sorts of speculation about that was on the news, since the plane was not found fast.


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Captain Button, Was in a 3 Ship Formation #3 they were Heading out to the training range and He dissapeared. The USAF officially stated it was a Suicide. The Flight Lead was the Only Transponder, there fore their was no Tracking. There were eyewitness's that say he was seen in the mountains manuevering. Some speculation had the idea that he may of suffered from hypoxia (Oxygen Failure) which Matt your allready aware of what those symptoms are. However the components were said to be functioning (never did understand how they can figure that out after its nothing but a smoking hole...

Anyways Unfortunately, the only person that really knows is the Young Captain that is no longer with us.

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Sorry, I am very familiar with the Craig Button story of 2 Apr 97, I actually met a person while I was in Sarajevo who was a very close friend of Button's. Got an interesting perspective from that individual, one that I cannot share here; but all the speculation that Button "struggled with his sexual identity" was discounted by this person.

Does anyone know if they ever found any of the Mk-82 bombs from his a/c?

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Never heard that he was "Gay" the story i heard said it was erlated to a falling out he had with his Girlfriend, and that his Jehovah Witness beliefs "Atleast a specific quotation in a letter or card" that was found in hisquarters. and the coincidence of his aircrafts impact with a large mountain.


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Sorry, I am very familiar with the Craig Button story of 2 Apr 97, I actually met a person while I was in Sarajevo who was a very close friend of Button's. Got an interesting perspective from that individual, one that I cannot share here; but all the speculation that Button "struggled with his sexual identity" was discounted by this person.

Does anyone know if they ever found any of the Mk-82 bombs from his a/c?

Cheers! M2




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ok explain this to me. If an aircraft does not have a transponder on the civilian radar can't find it? so basically there is a two part identification process with the radar sending out a signal and the aircraft answering back am I correct. Wasn't this the achillies heel on september 11, when the hijackers turned off their transponders. I mean during the cold war if a russian bomber came in how was the civilian radar net to be of any use.


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I a "Transponder" is what ID'S your plane, the Aircraft still show-up as a "Blip" Transponder gives out the Code.
They saw the 9/11 jets on the radar going into Newyork,but couldnt ID the flight They just hid the ID
As far as "Russian Bombers" coming across,NORAD Would see them before and Civilain Radar would and because the Aircraft isnt transmitting IFF code when Challeganed they would know its a
"Possible Hostile" and scramble on them in the "GOOD OLE DAY"

Most jets have a "Beacon" if it crashes and over the emergency channel you hear a "BEEP, BEEP" on and on until its acknowleged or turned-off

That A-10 Capt Buttons was Flying if it was as low as said and against the Mountains Radar wouldnt see it,and him not transponding
thats why they couldnt find him for solong.

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ok so the plane still is on radar just does not send out an ID saying I am flight 100 american airlines. So to identify aircraft without a transponder you have to visual identify or contact on radio. AM I NOW understanding this?



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ok so the plane still is on radar just does not send out an ID saying I am flight 100 american airlines. So to identify aircraft without a transponder you have to visual identify or contact on radio. AM I NOW understanding this?
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Pretty much. Radar will "see" anything that reflects it's signal back to it (the item's cross section). A transponder transmits the flight info. See the Wikipedia definitions for both a transponder and radar...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar

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http://rareaviation.com/store/catalog/category_856_A10.html

I didn't buy it myself, but it might do the trick..
I'm also interested in it, but only in the graphics. I'm modelling/texturing an A-10 for a game, and would very much like to get my hands on some original drawings/blueprints. I could really use some orthographic front/back/side/top projections of the plane, and maybe a few cross-sections. All the reference material i found on the web is mostly low-res, and from what i can tell, not originating from the manufacturer. So i'm stuck tracing high-res photos, correcting perspectival deformation and all that jazz.. I hate it <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
If anyone could help me out with scans of original Fairchild tech drawings of some sort, showing the aircraft from the above mentioned angles, i'd really appreciate it. I'd love to have some accurate data to work with when i'll start modelling.

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ok explain this to me. If an aircraft does not have a transponder on the civilian radar can't find it? so basically there is a two part identification process with the radar sending out a signal and the aircraft answering back am I correct. Wasn't this the achillies heel on september 11, when the hijackers turned off their transponders. I mean during the cold war if a russian bomber came in how was the civilian radar net to be of any use.


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I'm Sorry Matt you must have been mistaken on what I said.

The aircraft has a transponder, this is a method of how ATC keeps track of aircraft with an addition to radar, basically it is like the "License plate on your car" When a ATC controller is looking at his screen he sees the radar contact and the "Squak Code" from the transponder.

Now when we Fly together in formations Lets say 2 or More, Do to the fact that we are Flying in tight proximity, the Flight Lead is the Only aircraft that is "Squaking" a Code. The reason being is that these squak codes if all aircraft are togther would overlay, and send alarms to the ATC system, The atc system and their software would think their is a collision or potential taking place, this is uneeded stress on the ATC controllers.

What took place with this particular flight was that Capt. Button was number 3 in a 3 ship, and just fades out and away from the formation, The flight lead did not realise he was gone for a short period of time, but it was enough period of time that the Flight lead and wingman could not find him. This is when the search began.

As far as atc radar, these systems are regional and can be blind in specific areas aroud the country. I don' t recall the info about the radar information, I recall Being in a Flight originating from nellis and on our way to Holoman, which is a reletively short hop. And began a 1 hour cap over the Goldwater range before preceing on to holoman.

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The cost of living has gone up another dollar a quart.Somebody left the cork out of my lunch.

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When we were out west a few years back we heard a bullshit rumor about the MK-82's on the Capt's jet. The thought was that he jettisoned them somewhere for some American terrorist organization in the mountains. I swear that was the scuttlebut. I couldnt make up anything that dumb. <img src=newicons/anim_bs.gif border=0 align=middle>

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