I think I posted these before but with all the new people and the talk about England AFB in other threads I thought I would post them again. These were taken when I attended Hawgsmoke 2004 (what has become known as Hawgwash 2004) enjoy.
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 05 Mar 2007, 18:58 ] |
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I think I posted these before but with all the new people and the talk about England AFB in other threads I thought I would post them again. These were taken when I attended Hawgsmoke 2004 (what has become known as Hawgwash 2004) enjoy.
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| Author: | Skywarriors [ 05 Mar 2007, 22:11 ] |
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Ah Hawgwash 2004. 
Dice, is the Warthog Pen site running again ? Have some Hawgsmoke 2004 and 2006 shots I like to share as well. Maybe you could add some extra chapters. André |
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 06 Mar 2007, 03:10 ] |
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Skywarrior, thanks for the offer and yes, the Warthog Pen is back up and running again (most of it anyway) but I still have a lot of work to do on it. The Hawgsmoke section will be one of the last items I get back up but, I will keep you in mind when I start updating that portion. |
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| Author: | Skywarriors [ 06 Mar 2007, 06:29 ] |
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Dice, Please let me know when you start working on those chapters and I can send the stuff. Will keep the pix in the fridge for a while than. 
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 06 Mar 2007, 15:28 ] |
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Skywarriors wrote: Dice,
Please let me know when you start working on those chapters and I can send the stuff. Will keep the pix in the fridge for a while than. I'll be sure to let you know. |
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| Author: | HogSnort [ 06 Mar 2007, 15:41 ] |
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A few nice shots Dice, although I remember it being just a tad bit busier when I was therr! LOL That shot of the 2 barracks and pavilion looks like the opposite end of the barracks I stayed in my 1st year. |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 06 Mar 2007, 18:33 ] |
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Man those barracks look like &%^&!, You figured they would use them for \"Cheap\" apartments. Goose |
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| Author: | GEH737 [ 07 Mar 2007, 00:55 ] |
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Any chance you have more pictures like that from Alex? Very strange to see the place like that after having lived there... Hitch |
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 07 Mar 2007, 08:43 ] |
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GEH737 wrote: Any chance you have more pictures like that from Alex? Very strange to see the place like that after having lived there...
Hitch I'll see what I have but, to tell the truth, there was not much of the base proper to take photos of. I would like to see that door off the old ops building, with the 23rd patch etiched into it, removed and sent to Moody and used on a building there. Great peice of A-10 history going to waste IMHO. 
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 07 Mar 2007, 13:23 ] |
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Dice, you mean they \"Didnt \" take those doors with them? They took the 76th's Op's door and everything that belonged to the 76th TFS/AMU and had it packed-off to I think they said \"Maxwell\" because alot of Folks wanted the Art, The tables (Which were conference tables shaped like the Vanguard patch and someone \"Airbrushed it\" and threw tons of Poly on it)Those tables made the patch look \"3D\" .. I bet the \"Space Cadets\" ended-up with all that stuff\" Because it was something you'd want your hands on! Goose |
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 07 Mar 2007, 19:01 ] |
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No Goose the door was still there and looked to be in good shape, they must have missed that one. |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 07 Mar 2007, 19:31 ] |
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I cant believe they left it Dice, you should of pulled out your handi dandi Crew Chief tools and \"acquired it\" Goose |
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| Author: | Dice-man [ 07 Mar 2007, 20:10 ] |
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sgtgoose1 wrote: I cant believe they left it Dice, you should of pulled out your handi dandi Crew Chief tools and "acquired it"
Goose ROFL, I thought about it Goose but it would have been hard to carry back on the plane.  maybe when Coach gets back he can give me a contact who could work with the England Air Park and maybe get that door somewhere it will be used and appreciated by the new generation of Flying Tigers.
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| Author: | Cajun [ 07 Mar 2007, 22:10 ] |
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It's sad to see the old base in that kind of shape. I was on the state library database looking for old Desert Storm articles about EAFB and found some stuff about the 1991 mid air that happened over the range at Claiborne. Goose, could you tell me what actually happened or had you already left? |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 08 Mar 2007, 18:27 ] |
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I was gone already Cajun\" I did get to see the East Coast Demo team at Travis AFB that summer. They brought the Demo birds plus 4 others to \"Tanker\" I talked to Capt Salomonson \"Fish\" the famous \"Tank Ace\" I Knew him pretty well back then and asked him about it, because one of the pilots was Lt Eric Miller a very close friend of \"FISH\" I knew and the other pilot Major Watterberg \"WaterBug\" I knew him from the 76th days before he went to Germany and he showed-up in Theater with the \"74th\" and we went \"APE SHIT\" that he was assigned to the 74th. Anyway I knew the Pilots very well and \"Fish\" told be about the \"Mishap\" and it hurt him even to talk about it. It was just one of those things Cajun, just a turn the wrong way it sounded like, but I didn't push it because I had only found out when I read it in the AIRFORCE times. If you read \"Warthog\" by Smallwood he has a \"Tribute to them and talks about he heard it on the radio not to long after talking to them\" So thats all I know ,I just know it \"Was a Blow\" and a Great loss to the 76th and a loss of \"Friends\" its hard for me as I write this to not remember the TDY's , The Trouble that we all caused,and seeing them almost everyday flying and looking at pictures of them right now. They were 2 of the finest Pilots and People you would ever like to meet I have to ![[salute]](./images/smilies/smiley_salute.gif "Salute")
Goose I went back after Bacon Bits straightened me out and I was looking at \"Millers\" picture I need to write on the back of these things , my mind just aint what it use to be. Sorry. |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 08 Mar 2007, 18:31 ] |
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You guys see this link http://www.englandafb.com/ This is a pretty good site, I'll get ahold of \"Mack\" he took a bunch of pictures from England AFB not too long ago he showed me. Goose |
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| Author: | HogSnort [ 08 Mar 2007, 19:25 ] |
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sgtgoose1 wrote: the other pilot Major Watterberg "WaterBug" I knew him from the 76th days before he went to Germany and he showed-up in Theater with the "74th" and we went
"APE SHIT" that he was assigned to the 74th. "WaterBug" and "Karl " were 2 of the finest Pilots and People you would ever like to meet Goose...... By chance was this Jeff Watterberg, who when a Capt flew in the 75th? We called him Wattaburger or Burger. Excellant Guy! |
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| Author: | Cajun [ 08 Mar 2007, 22:09 ] |
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Thanks alot, sorry to bring it up I just wanted to know what had happened because i was still a baby when it happened and if you knew anything about it. I asked my dad about it and he said that i was a very sad time at England AFB and that they named two streets on the base after them. It's still hard for him to talk about it too. That's why I asked you if you knew anything about it. Cajun
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 09 Mar 2007, 00:28 ] |
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Hogsnort, Same pilot Goose
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| Author: | Bacon Bits [ 09 Mar 2007, 17:44 ] |
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sgtgoose1 wrote: If you read "Warthog" by Smallwood he has a "Tribute to them and talks about he heard it on the radio not to long after talking to them"
In that book, Smallwood has the other mid-air loss as 1st Lt Eric Miller. Either way, a tragic waste, but the book 'Warthog' did them proud. |
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| Author: | sgtgoose1 [ 10 Mar 2007, 15:09 ] |
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BB, You are right, Eric Miller was a close friend of Fish. He was the one who had the mid air with \"Waterbug\" my mistake. \"Karl\" is still around I just use to get the \"2\" LT's\" confused. Well Lt Miller was TOP NOTCH TOO. Thanks for pointing it out. I had never been in a unit were we lost Pilots , let alone Crew Chiefs and Specialist before. Everyone of them is missed, and a Few were Very Close friends specially \"Mikey\" or \"Sparky\" that took his own life, Then a Newbiee Crew Chief in BFLT died right after he was assigned a Jet on leave, feel asleep at the wheel going home, and 1 of our Admin Troops \"Crusty\" we had \"The yearly \"Run around the Track\" and a couple of us \"Speedy ones\" ran together, smelt like a BEN-GAY factory after we were done , we went home to change to come to work and he went home sat down and had a massive Heart-AttacK, Phase Dock had the New Guy die on the tow-bar accident all with in 2 weeks then we went right into Cornet Warrior 3 So the 76th was a Great Assignment, but we lost alot of \"Great people too\"
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