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Since the Air Force designated it the Thunderbolt, where did the term Hawg come from and why?

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Oh, to be so innocent! Because:

1) Past the cockpit the rivets(warts)show
2) It's not streamlined, mach-snot and pointy-nosed; therefore not Air Force sexy but butt-ugly in <i>their</i> eyes
3) Like it's warthog name-sake it is mean when riled up, nothing stops it when it is charging, and it's bite is definitely worse than it's snort!

[How's that for a start, guys?]<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hajji, you can run, but why die tired?

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Since the Air Force designated it the Thunderbolt, where did the term Hawg come from and why?

Thanks

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Pilots and maintainers always give aircraft names different from the ones given by the manufactor, knida' a way to make them more our own. Republic's P-47 Thunderbolt (where the name Thunderbolt II comes from) was called the Hog by many pilots and maintainers, Republic's F-105 was nick-named the Thud by many but, was also known as the Ground Hog because of the amount of runway it took to take-off when fully loaded. keeping with this tradition (and the fact Fairchild Republic built it) and the looks of the A-10, a Hog with a bad attditude, a blunt nose, and deadly tusks fit the A-10 so well Warthog (and Hawg for short) was just a natural follow-on!

Ugly but well hung!
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Edited by - Dice on Oct 22 2003 11:44 AM

I thought the P-47 was called th "Jug"?

"You better learn from someone else's mistakes because you'll be totally boned long before you make them all by yourself".

THE P-47'S OTHER NICKNAME WAS THE "JUG" "OR MILKBOTTLE.

THE EARLY P-47 WITH THE RAZOR BACK CANOPY WERE THE ORIGINS IF MY MIND IS CLEAR FOR THE "HOG" NICKNAME.

ALL 3 OF THESE GREAT PLANES DID AND DO THEIR JOB WELL!

BUT THEN REMEMBER REAL HOGS ARE

1. VERY VERY SMART
2. WILL DIE PROTECTING THEIR YOUNG
3. ACTUALLY VERY CLEAN,THEY HAVE NO SWEAT GLANDS SO ROLLING IN MUD COOLS THEM DOWN.
4. HAVE A GOOD MEMORY
5. AND A HOG WILL ROOT OUT A RAT OR SNAKE IF IT SMELLS IT AND KILL IT AND EAT IT!!

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Always liked the "Rhino" nickname the F-4 Phantom II was given. F-111 was really never given a true name, but Aardvark fitted well.

Warthog fits the A-10 like a glove. In fact I like it better than the Thunderbolt II designation. While we are on the subject, Republic like Grumman has always been consistent with its lineage namesakes. Grumman stuck to felines for its fighters....Republic always had a thunder something, Thunderbolt, Thunderchief, Thunderjet...etc. Anybody know why?

I had the opportunity to ride in a Ef-111F Raven once. After that Low Level TFR. I only had one name for it "El Dorado" that baby was the cadillac of the TFR Auotpilot world. It totally outclassed the F15E and F16 in that Realm. She was a very smooth bird down low.

Another Good TFR bird is the Eurpoean and RAF Tornados. Very good down low.

But not as manueverable as a F16 or F15E Down Low in TFR. Each design has its weakness. While the Fixed wing planeform fighters buffet and are more aggressive, the Ef-111 and the tornados are smoother.

My WSO's always had a hard time with me in the F15E and the F16DJ, and F18D. I was just a Jinky Crack Bunny on Strike Runs. Too busy looking to kill Surface threats before they got a shot off at me. which makes it a real pisser for the guys that need to run systems in the back. Ive bruised a few guys, it never sits well withem, Oh F&*Kn well. the price ya pay for being a System operator and Not PIC. HEHEHE

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

The F-105 was called the thud because when its engins cut out it made a loud thud sound

IM mad mad I tell you

I heard one reasons the F-105 was called the Thud, was because it was so heavy when loaded out it would create flat spots on its tires, and when taxiing it would go "thud" "thud" "thud" down the runway...I dunno if thats true or not, but its an entertaning story.

BTW Colonel Jack Broughten author of "Downtown" and a couple of other Vietnam era books had some good 105 stories.

I've also heard that, due to the high heat and humidity, a loaded out -105 had trouble getting off the ground.

Hajji, you can run, but why die tired?

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will plow for those who do not.\"
- Thomas Jefferson

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I've also heard that, due to the high heat and humidity, a loaded out -105 had trouble getting off the ground.

Hajji, you can run, but why die tired?
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Pretty common with allot of fighters of that era and today of you take them past max grossweight?Configs

Config light on gas. and hope to hit a Tanker before suken fumes.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

According to an episode i saw on Discovery Wings, the 105 was called the 'thud' derogatorally by other crews because that's the sound it makes when it plows into the Vietnamese country side.

Considering it's loss rate and pilot fatality rates(the USAF lost so many pilots they were sticking KC-135 pilotas in them with minimal training), and the rivalry that exists in the military between different communities, it makes perfect sense to me.

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Edited by - m21 sniper on Oct 30 2003 09:26 AM

AND ON THE WEASELS AND SOME F-4'S THE LOSSES WERE SO GREAT THEY WERE PUTTING A1C ECM TROOPS AS THE WSO SO THEY WOULDNT WASTE PILOTS.


I ALSO HEARD THESE REASONS FOR THUD
T. TOUGH H. HEAVY U. UGLY D. DUDE
THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHERS
SLUFFS,BUFFS,FRED ETC.......IF IT FLIES SOME GROUNDPOUNDER HAS A NICKNAME FOR IT

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The story goes...

A less official event in the history of the program can also be traced to Eglin AFB and the summer of 1973. Discussing the A-10 in the Tactical Air Warfare Center's TAWC Review, Major Michael G. Major closed his article by proposing a name for the new aircraft. Republic's first jet fighter, the F-84, had a less-than sparkling take-off performance which earned it the nickname 'Groundhog' or just 'Hog'. Its swept-wing development, the F-84F, became the 'Super-Hog', and the concrete-hungry F- 105 was christened 'Ultra-Hog' "What do you suppose the A-10 will be called?" wondered Major. "The 'warthog'?" The name was too appropriate not to stick to an Ugly beast with a thick hide and dangerous tusks.

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