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Does Moody still house A-10 units? This picture on FAS.org shows both having units but I can't find anything recent stating they are still active.

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Tailcodes would be MY

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I dont know exactly when they got rid of their A10's but I know they dont have any. We got 79-216 from them a few years back.

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TG, Moody only had A-10s from 1995-1999 and was basicly a place to "hold" a squadron of Hawgs until a permanant home could be found for them.

The subject of base Closures and realignments will be covered in the second chapter of my book but here's a little info. After Desert Storm the A-10 fleet was “saved” from the bone yard but not in the same form as it was pry to DS. Over a third of the A-10s still ended-up in the Desert of Arizona and some of our largest and oldest A-10 bases like Myrtle Beach, England AFB LA, and Alconberry/Bentwaters UK closed their A-10 units.

Because the plan was to bone yard the Hawg pry to DS, then to keep them after, this left a gap in places to put them. A couple of bases like Shaw AFB SC and Moody AFB were used to “hold” onto the airframes, equipment, and maning (and keep them quilifided) and use them until a place could be found for them. Shaw only had A-10 from 1992-1996 and Moody from 1995-1999.

I know more info than you needed but as you know I love A-10 history!!!

HMFIC

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TG, Moody only had A-10s from 1995-1999 and was <b>basicly a place to "hold" a squadron of Hawgs until a permanant home could be found for them.</b>

The subject of base Closures and realignments will be covered in the second chapter of my book but here's a little info. After Desert Storm the A-10 fleet was “saved” from the bone yard but not in the same form as it was pry to DS. Over a third of the A-10s still ended-up in the Desert of Arizona and some of our largest and oldest A-10 bases like Myrtle Beach, England AFB LA, and Alconberry/Bentwaters UK closed their A-10 units.

Because the plan was to bone yard the Hawg pry to DS, then to keep them after, this left a gap in places to put them. A couple of bases like Shaw AFB SC and Moody AFB were used to “hold” onto the airframes, equipment, and maning (and keep them quilifided) and use them until a place could be found for them. Shaw only had A-10 from 1992-1996 and Moody from 1995-1999.

I know more info than you needed but as you know I love A-10 history!!!

HMFIC

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dice...maybe we only were a "place to hold them" but I think the few years the 70th existed with A-10s we did a good job.....just my opinion...if nothing else...made some great friends from that squadron....

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I know more info than you needed but as you know I love A-10 history!!!

HMFIC Dice
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Great info Dice, I also saw some Shaw pics but assumed that was an older unit.

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prkiii, I didn't mean to "degrade" Shaw or Moody in any way it's just the facts. I loved both Shaw and Moody and as you said made some great friends at both bases..and yes we held-up our end as a unit the whole time we were active!!

HMFIC

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prkiii, I didn't mean to "degrade" Shaw or Moody in any way it's just the facts. I loved both Shaw and Moody and as you said made some great friends at both bases..and yes we held-up our end as a unit the whole time we were active!!

HMFIC
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Oh...I knew that...just had to through my 2 cents worth in....lol...

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Dice please correct me if I am wrong here..(Iam sure you will..hehehe) But during the early stages of England and Myrtle Beach closing, Moody was on the list of places to go, but when andrew wiped out homestead afb it brought the lawn darts to moody, then all of a sudden they had McChord AFB on the list., I believe the hogs were there just about 2 and a half years before closing to come to moody. I believe that i correct or a part of it is anyway. But i think these temp. holding locations as you call them have been a HUGE waste of taxpayer dollars. I can kinda see closing the beach since the runway was super close to 2 maj highways (Hwy 17 & Alt 17), but the airport is still there so go figure, but I would have made sence to beef up England if they were closing the beach. I still havent figured out why they went to pope. That place was a nightmare in the early 90's. TAC acft on a MAC base..that went over well.

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Dice, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the majority of the Moody jets come from the Grissom AFB, IN ANG unit? They were held in flyable storage at Shaw AFB for a few months while I was there, while they got the people in place at Moody for the beddown.

Muggs, I know some came from Pope. They were transitioning from a 24 PAA to an 18 at the time, this was befor the 74th was activated at pope and pope had lawn darts with teeh(yuck)(it looked like the plane had an overbite cause they put the teeth on the intake). We transfered some there while I was awaiting to PCS to Moody. People wee at moody for almost 2.5 years before the a-10's got there. Most of them weere MSgt. and up, they worked in the 68th & 69th from about 92-93 until the hogs got to moody in 95. But I am sure some came from other units as well. I remember changing 781F's out but do not remember any 781's with guard bases or Shaw, but thoes might have got there before I did.

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Very good questions guys I will look over my notes tonight and see if I can't answer some of them. Like you said Muggs some of Moody jets came from Grissom and where in flyable storage at Shaw for a while (I was there at the time also) but I do belive Moody alos recived some from, like jb said, Pope and Shaw as it closed.

jb I don't know if Moody was ever on the BRAC list or not.

HMFIC

I don't think any Pope jets went to Moody since Pope had just opened in 92. They opened as a 24 PAA and stayed as a 24 PAA until 2004. The 55 FS moved from Shaw to Pope in 96 or 97 as an 18 PAA. I think the unit moved intact, in terms of aircraft.

The F-16 teeth were on the nose, under the cockpit, not on the intake. They should have been on the intake, it would have looked much better.

In my opinion, the AF should have never closed Alex...great airspace, lots of ramp space and no civilian encroachment to worry about.

Coach

Coach,
Not to argue this point but I remember a few of the 16's had the teeh just aft of the radome at first, but then they were placed on the intake The LANTIRN (sp) pod covered it up. I could have sworn that when the 70th opened up the 75th dropped to a 18PAA however continued to keep 24 acft vs the 28 we had when we 1st got there. I was never stationd at alex, but we went there form the beach for a hur-evac and I got to visit with some friends and the place seeemed nice.

JB

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JB, there were several versions of the teeth on the Pope Vipers, one was on the intake and one was on the fuselage. Not sure which one became the official version.

The 75th was a 24 PAA squadron the entire time from 92 until the end of 2003. It is now an 18 PAA unit.

Coach

I cant remember either but the ones who had it on the intake made the plane look like it had an overbite and the ones just behind the radome looked like some fish. Teeth only look good on hogs!

JB

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Well as far as Shaw goes they recived 16 of there 26 TAI from Alconberry, 7 from England, 2 from Grissom, and one from Pope. Of the 27 aircraft assigned to Moody 14 came from Shaw, 5 from Grissom, and 8 from DM. Don't know why 8 came from DM unless their PAA was reduced to help "fill-in" Moody to a full 18 PAA squadron it was.

As you cna see most came from closing bases like Alconberry and England to Shaw and then moved to Moody. I belive the move to Moody was driven by the destruction of Homestead (as JB said) and the move of their F-16 to Shaw, the base just coundn't handle the load.

There was a lot of shuffing around of A-10s following DS with A-10 bases closing and others getting A-10s for only a few years (Shaw/Moody/Grissom/McChord) and then closing (at least their A-10 units).

As I 've said before, yes Desert Storm "saved" the A-10 from retirement but, the face of the Hawg community changed big time from what is was pry to DS.

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Dice, I thought we were a 24 PAA for a bit at moody? I know when I first got there we were scheduled to hit out 1st rotation to Al jaber as an 18PAA but I thought that was bumped to a 24 for our second trip 6 months later....????? BTW thanks for the good shots of the stars on the trip, man that was awsome!

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Dice, I thought we were a 24 PAA for a bit at moody? I know when I first got there we were scheduled to hit out 1st rotation to Al jaber as an 18PAA but I thought that was bumped to a 24 for our second trip 6 months later....????? BTW thanks for the good shots of the stars on the trip, man that was awsome!

JB

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I belive you are right jbpig because we had 27 jets. I was working with 1995 data so that's why I posted the 18PAA number.

You are welcome jb, you know I sold my scope after my second daughter was born in CA. and have not got another one...maybe someday when I have the time!

HMFIC

When yuo have the time????? Dude you are RETIRING!!! You now have all the time in the world......or is it time to get a REAL job?? Congrats!

JB

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When yuo have the time????? Dude you are RETIRING!!! You now have all the time in the world......or is it time to get a REAL job?? Congrats!

JB

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JB, in my case retirement only means, as you put it, I have to get a real job now!!
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HMFIC

From what I was able to glean out of all my old papers, here are the tails from Grissom that ended up at Moody via Shaw....

79-0191, 79-0216, 80-0149, 80-0158, 80-0171, 80-0181, 80-0205, 80-0272, 80-0276, 80-0279.

The other tails we had when we dis-banded were....
79-0185, 79-0200 to Eielson, 79-0211, 80-0153, 80-0180, 80-0192, 80-0215, 80-0217, 80-0228, 80-0252, 80-0274, 81-0944 to Eielson.

I know where the other tails ended up, but I don't remember if they went directly there from our base or through Shaw or some other base. I had transferred before they were all gone. I only know of the two that went to Eielson because I followed them up there and the ones at Moody where there during my short stay there.
At Eielson, 79-0200 eventually bought the farm when the pilot was operating with partial NVIS cockpit and got spat-dis'd and punched out. He was lucky, I think it was in that same year they had a female student at D-M that got in the same situation and unfortunately, did not make it out.
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Every A-10 I ever was assigned to now are in Korea...even my two jets from moody (153 & 185) went over there just as I PCSed back to the states from Osan....I had a blast in the 70th...even though it "sucked" at times....oh well...can't "relive" the past....

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PK, when did it suck?????? Ok we wont go there....Moody was a great assignment for about the first year and a half. We had some excellent supervision then. It was like Myrtle Beach all over again.

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PK, when did it suck?????? Ok we wont go there....Moody was a great assignment for about the first year and a half. We had some excellent supervision then. It was like Myrtle Beach all over again.

JB

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I agree...my last few months before I PCSed to Osan got to be a pain in the a&#....but I'm still sentimental towards the unit...(and the 25th...as everyone can see below....)

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