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Author:	Suntracker [ 26 Jun 2005, 06:50 ]
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Is it true that the A-10 can only kill Russian tanks if it attacks the thinnest armor on the top? Granted, the A-10 does have a 30mm cannon. But U.S. Abhrams tanks were upgunned from 105mm to 122mm just so that they would have a chance of penetrating Russian tank armor. Are there any documented cases of the 30mm gau-8 actually destroying a heavy main battle tank?

Author:	Type 7 [ 26 Jun 2005, 07:03 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Are there any documented cases of the 30mm gau-8 actually destroying a heavy main battle tank? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Don't know if T-55/72s were specifically killed by 30mm in Desert Storm, but I have no doubt that the 30mm can do the job.

Author:	MICHAEL PIJAR [ 26 Jun 2005, 08:20 ]
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Wasn't their a friendly fire inncident in the first Gulf War where an A-10 fired upon an American tank. "GLAD TO HAVE BEEN THERE AND HAVE BEEN PROUD TO HAVE SERVERED"

Author:	Suntracker [ 26 Jun 2005, 09:58 ]
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I found some data on the Gau-8. Heres the armor penetration capabilities: 69mm at 500 meters 38mm at 1000 meters Heres the only information I could find on the T-72s armor thickness: "The turret has conventional cast armor with a maximum thickness of 280-mm, the nose is about 80-mm thick and the glacis is 200-mm thick laminate armor."

Author:	Dice-man [ 26 Jun 2005, 11:05 ]
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Maybe this will help... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/air_co ... ndex.shtml Also remember there is two types of kills, battlefield and total, just food for thought. Ugly But Well Hung

Author:	gifted [ 26 Jun 2005, 11:17 ]
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That was funny dice. Great laugh. "Some pup" Nickname by Fenderstrat72

Author:	Coach [ 26 Jun 2005, 13:59 ]
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There are three types of kills... Firepower (F-kill), mobility (M-kill) and catastrophic (K-kill). Each means a different set of parameters when determining effectiveness of a particular weapons system. Coach

Author:	sgtgoose1 [ 26 Jun 2005, 15:50 ]
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Look at the Tank grave yards in the desert over in the SANDBOX, awful lot of T-72'S WITH 30MM DAMAGE, I dont think there's any doubt that a HOG can Kill anything that roams the battle field. If anyone wants to say the "30mm" cant take out any main battle tank,I dare them to sit inside and let a HOG take target pratice on it. GAU-8 "KILLS TANKS DEAD" Goose

Author:	mattlott [ 26 Jun 2005, 18:21 ]
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Now now goose where is your compassion for anyone dumb enough to have doubts. Or do you just want to thin the herd.

Author:	Hawg166 [ 26 Jun 2005, 19:04 ]
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I vote we thin the herd. By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

Author:	a10stress [ 27 Jun 2005, 06:47 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Wasn't their a friendly fire inncident in the first Gulf War where an A-10 fired upon an American tank. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I think that was a Maverick accidentlally shot at a Bradley, which is not a comparable encounter. THE RAMPTOR ENGINEERING TEAM <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> "Who cares if it works? Does it look good on the ramp?"

Author:	Type 7 [ 27 Jun 2005, 08:44 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Wasn't their a friendly fire inncident in the first Gulf War where an A-10 fired upon an American tank. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Desert Storm, there were two friendly fire incidents involving the A-10. One was a USMC LAV-25 of the 1st LAR Batallion that was hit by a malfunctioning Maverick on 29 Jan 91 with 7 Marines KIA, and the other incident was where 9 Brit soldiers were killed when three British Army Warrior APCs of the 1st Batallion, The Staffordshire Regiment, were hit by Maverick missiles targeted against them by A-10s. Pic of the destroyed LAV-25: http://www.1ofthefew.com/DestroyedLAVPi ... yedLAV.jpg Tragically, in the start of OIF, A-10s and the British again played a part in blue-on-blue when two Scimitar APCs of D Squadron, Blues and Royals, Household Cav Regiment were hit by repeated 30mm fire and 5 Brit soldiers killed. Investigation pending last I heard. Also in OIF, A-10s and Marines also came together again when 18 Marines were killed and 17 wounded after A-10s strafed a Marine position near An Nasariya. Investigation later revealed communication, identification, and other problems in the 23 March incident. Edited by - Type 7 on Jun 27 2005 07:44 AM

Author:	Suntracker [ 27 Jun 2005, 15:00 ]
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From the website, I see that A-10 pilots were encouraged to shoot the engines of enemy tanks. So that would be a mobility kill.

Author:	M21 Sniper [ 27 Jun 2005, 16:26 ]
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Depends. If a fire starts(which is pretty likely), it could result in a total vehicle loss. <b>There are two kinds of soldiers. Snipers...and targets.</b> <img src="http://www.creedmoorsports.com/images/SA9121-M21.JPG" border=0>

Author:	Hawg166 [ 27 Jun 2005, 22:36 ]
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Or if the tank caught fire, at the very least the air conditioning would become ineffective. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

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