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Author:  Growler67 [ 08 Aug 2005, 14:23 ]
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http://cgi.ebay.com/How-to-Fly-A-10-WAR ... dZViewItem

Very interesting, wonder if these are all unclassified?

Author:  30mike-mike [ 09 Aug 2005, 06:11 ]
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WOW!! 43 minutes and I'm a Hawg driver! <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle> And I'd be leary of that DVD. Some of those "manuals" are copyrighted books.

"Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig

Author:  JMF422nd [ 09 Aug 2005, 23:56 ]
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Copy writed material once sold under a copywrite is fair game. It becomes puplic domain after the initial sale.

Author:  30mike-mike [ 10 Aug 2005, 05:40 ]
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Works for me. Thanks, JMF.

"Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig

Author:  Dice-man [ 13 Aug 2005, 07:02 ]
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HA, just read one model for sale from the 23rd TFW, based out of <b> Los Angeles (LA) AFB CA.</b> <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ugly But Well Hung

Author:  Lil Hitler [ 13 Aug 2005, 15:29 ]
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Copy writed material once sold under a copywrite is fair game. It becomes puplic domain after the initial sale.
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So what your telling me is if I purchase a newspaper/magazine and then resell that material that it's not copyright infringemnet?.... don't think so

capche-capche da - we go forward together

Faugh ah Ballaugh -Clear The Way-

Author:  JMF422nd [ 13 Aug 2005, 16:35 ]
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Yes that is exactly what I am telling you, for written copyrighted material only.
Thats how a used book store works. If I sell you my collection of back issue Playboys for instance ( a periodical just like the newspaper/magazine you mentioned) I have not broken any copywrites. Otherwise a used book store could not exsist.
Now on the other hand intelecual property writes for say music and other forms of media is much different. If that "how to fly an A-10" DVD was not an original and was in fact an illeagal copy that someone printed off from their home computer that person who made it would be liable for $150,000 per infrigement while the buyer would be liable for stolen goods something like $1000. As long as the DVD or book was originally sold under copyright its public domain to be sold, barted, given, whatever. Only copying it and/or distributing copy of said work is copyright protected.



Edited by - JMF422nd on Aug 13 2005 3:37 PM

Author:  JMF422nd [ 13 Aug 2005, 16:46 ]
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See Lawrence Lessig's Free Culture if you have any other questions there Lil Hitler. Its one of the best media/ law related books I've ever read.

-Peace

Author:  Lil Hitler [ 13 Aug 2005, 22:12 ]
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JMF, I see what your saying and I agree with you in that aspect. If you purchase an item, you have the right to sell that item as a whole, any time you see fit. This is simply selling your personal property.

However, the actual copyright to the material still belongs to the copyright holder (author, photographer, publisher), meaning you cannot reproduce, alter, or claim it as your own work.

On the other hand, items classified as “Public Domain” allow you to use the material in such a fashion. Case in point, the logo for my website has a photo of an A-10 that was taken for or by the military. I am allowed to utilize and alter this image without providing any payment to the original photographer because it is classified as public domain material.


capche-capche da - we go forward together

Faugh ah Ballaugh -Clear The Way-

Author:  JMF422nd [ 14 Aug 2005, 00:45 ]
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Yes, your right Hitler. Now the question at hand. It was raised that buying a purchased copy of a book online though ebay may violate copyright, it doesn't. The book once bought IS public domain. The content is still under copyright, that was never in dispute but the book can be resold at "market" value; meaning that it (i.e. the book) can be sold for whatever someone is willing to pay as long as no one makes a "copy" of said work.

Author:  30mike-mike [ 15 Aug 2005, 06:12 ]
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I guess what confuses me is that this guy has "copied" the books onto a DVD. Unless they were originally offered ia a dvd format, couldn't his copying them into a new format/media, for personal gain, be construed as infringement?

"Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig

Author:  JMF422nd [ 15 Aug 2005, 11:05 ]
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I guess it could if it were not originaly sold as that DVD. The add is pretty criptic. You could always ask the guy selling it if your interested.

Author:  30mike-mike [ 15 Aug 2005, 12:46 ]
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Nope, just stirring the pot a little! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." - Carl Zwanzig

Author:  JMF422nd [ 15 Aug 2005, 14:04 ]
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Nice, round here it doesn't take much ROFL....

Author:  Lil Hitler [ 16 Aug 2005, 00:29 ]
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Ah come on, it's take more than that to stir the pot around here...

capche-capche da - we go forward together

Faugh ah Ballaugh -Clear The Way-

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