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True but, think if he produced something that passed our standards...what would he have then? Also he was looking for people who were willing to put their names on prints of this art work, don't know about you but, I would have to <b>like</b> the print before I did that.



Ugly But Well Hung

<img src=newicons/anim_bow.gif border=0 align=middle>Well, you have a good point there.

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo

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Interestingly enough, Hogdog, I came to the same conclusion you did...shrinking the turret would probably cure the perspective problem without losing too much visual impact. Unfortunately, I've sort've hit the wall regarding editability of this piece. I can no longer extricate the turret from the explosion without considerable repainting, so I think I've reached the point of diminishing returns and will probably just have to leave it as is. Most non-hog-drivers I've heard from seem OK with it. It's a shame it's not authentic enough to win the endorsement of the A-10 community, but I think I'd have more luck starting from scratch, anyway, if I want a signed piece. This one just isn't gonna do it. I'm beating the proverbial dead horse. (or hog, I guess)

Thanks again for everyone's time and input. I really appreciate it. S!

now if your going to make it characture then consider putting bag dad bob in the bag ground saying what hogs?

Fritz:

I think you've got us all wrong. It's not that A-10 community will not provide you with an endorsement but more so we are highly critical when it comes to the small detail. I remember our squadron was selling an OV-10 Lithograph (someone here uses it as his avatar) and it looked great. However, it had one small problem, the names of the Pilot, DCC, and ACC where on the wrong side of the jet. Nobody seemed to notice this until it was brought it into the crew chief office and everyone that looked at it said the same thing. Now this didn't prevent us from purchasing the Litho we just thought that if we could get it changed prior to print it would have made it more realistic. Unfortunately, that didn’t happen and now I am the owner of an OV-10 Litho with my name on the wrong side of the aircraft.

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I sort've got the impression that the A-10 drivers out there just didn't like it. Either way, it still leaves me in a quandry, since the changes neccessary to pull it into the realm of acceptable authenticity will probably break the piece visually.

My goal in this piece originally was to create a strong T-shirt design, and the picture eventually formed around it, but it was not planned from the ground up as an accurate represenation of a true Warthog mission...which is where the problem lies. It is (in my biased opinion) a very strong, gee whiz kind of composition, but divorced from reality enough that I doubt I can reel it back in without nuetering it, since the problematic elements are not easily repaired innacuracies in markings, but in overall layout. It was meant to be in your face, but not really accurate.

BTW, regarding the OV-10 litho, I am already learning firsthand how frustrating those sorts of mistakes can be. I recently completed a nice profile of a local warbird (Cincinnati Miss, an airworthy P-51 and quite a beauty), had it printed and proudly presented it to the owner...only to learn that I got the N number wrong :-0

LOL Very frustrating. Every single placard and rivet on that plane was right, and I blew the N number! (I didn't have a good photo of it, as it sat in the shadow of the stab, so I referred to a web database of P-51's...which had it wrong) Fortunately, it was easily repaired.

Anyway, I think I've reached an impasse. I can't do much more to the art. I DID try some experiments with shrinking the turret, removing it altogether, etc...but, although they may be more accurate, they just suck the drama out of the picture, and most of them would involve so much work to polish that I may as well start over. So I think I've just hit that point where it's time to cut it loose. It is what it is.

Something I CAN do is plan a new picture from the ground up, with a view towards making it a more historical piece. If someone can think of a good war story that might also make a great visual, I'm all ears. Ideally, it would involve a plane for which good photo reference exists. (I always kind've wanted to do one of the hogs with the the actual hog faces on them...can't recall the unit offhand. But any hog is a good hog.)

I'd be happy to put the time in, if some of you vets would be willing to work with me on it. Having a signed print is more valuable to me than an unsigned work.



Edited by - Fritz the Fox on Aug 16 2005 09:20 AM

Well Fritz, don't get too bummed about this one. It is still a cool picture, perfectly accurate or not. If I saw a t-shirt like that, I wouldn't have to think long to make the decision to buy it. Let me know if you ever get it printed up.

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Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo

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