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I have alot of A-10 books and at one time I had a book that had the
\"3\" Barksdale AFB \" Peanut and other test Camo\" paint jobs on it.

I cant remember the name, but I was looking through some stuff for Pat a note I written \"Peanut Camo Book has MAV date\".

So if you know the book I'm talking about , if its the right one in fact in the back of the book it has all the \"Dates\" of events ,Jets etc... of things that happened during GW1.
If my memory is right it said something like \"on this date a Maverick AGM-65 missile was accidentally launched on the ground but cant confirm it\"

I've done searches up and down the net for reports on this accident, We know its true but it seems the USAF never wanted it out. I know after being told by at least 3 folks of pictures of the AGM-65 still in the wall.

I saw it in the wall about 20mins after in happened before they roped it off and blocked anyone getting in to the area.
Now EOD at King Fhad has to have pictures of it or one of those guys took pictures, let alone the some others wh got their fast enough with a camera. Dumb ass me I think was still
from the Blast and noise being South east of the firing.

So if you have the book can you tell me if I'm right or not and if its there the Date they have.

Goose

After looking until my EYES are bugging out heres whats funny,
In the USAF's Offical review they say \"Only 3 non-explosive incidents occurred giving the USAF a \"0 Mishap record\"
Now thats

I found a reference to the Firing here and copied it

DOC]
Gulf War
File Format: Microsoft Word
52 AGM-65 Series Maverick Missile 254. 53 GBU-10 (Improved 2000-Pound Bomb) 254 ... when a missile on a parked A-10 accidently fired into a revetment wall. ...
www.fas.org/sgp/library/gwapsv3.doc -

Now they did talk about the
\"Good Morning America show HELLFIRE MISSILE DEMO\"


That was

Charlie Gibson was just starting to interview when that happened.

But looking at that report I think they \"Sanitized it\"

Got to be the best Kept secert of Desert Storm.

Goose

No Worries Goose, we used to kill barns in Germany with Aim 9's

Ive seen Cows killed at fort Drum by apaches... now that was c;lassic, I believe a Tower at Fort Benning ate a Hellfire as well

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George S. Patton

We had 2 pilots sent home from RED FLAG for strafing \"Horses\", I wouldnt of called it \"Strafing\" the horses had been using the targets for shade and what did they expect?
They got them out of their before the \"PETA\" and the \"S Club\" got there too.
It was an accident but that TDY 2 other pilots got the \"Carpet Burn\" for violating the Restricted space over \"La La Land\".
So we lost more pilots than Maintainers on that one.

I'm just trying to figure out \"Why\"? it was such a \"Hush Hush\" mishap? Then they put in the USAF's offical report about the \"Zero Mishap rate by Weapons Crews\"?
Not to beat up on them, we had enough our selfs and they had no problem \"Raking us over the coals\" but just the ones I was around like Pat had said earlier on \"MK-82 MISHAP and then the, CBU-58, and a AGM-65B problem\"

So just trying to pin point the Date I dont know why I never wrote it down,did alot of other things, I think it was because \"Auddie\" took a picture of it in the wall when went by it before they ran us off, EOD was just getting there, if we werent in the the Charlie rivetments I would of never seen it and then We got busy Towing Hogs out of the area Charlie and Delta blocks.I was supposed to get copies of them but never saw him again after I left.

Goose

Goose, is this the book you're thinking about? I looked in the back but I don't see anything on the mav launch. I'll look through some of my stuff today and see what I can find.

That was the one I was talking about.
Dice it would be in the back of the book toward where all the events took place, where they list each notable action that took place like when
Lt Col Storr was shot down,0186's landing with battle damage, 181 crashing at KKMC, stuff like that plus the dates each A-10 lost etc....
Its written like an Index.
I went thru \"America's Mudfighter and several others\" I dont know why I wrote that note.
The book was written like 3-4 years after the war.
Thanks Dice.

Goose

Goose, sorry man I don't see it in this book. The back section does reference another book \"Aircraft and Armament of Desert Storm\" Kinzey's D&S #40. I'll keep looking.....

Thanks Dice


Goose

Dice, maybe it was in the \"Air Journal \" book.
I'm looking at my books now, and I \"Loaned out a few\" and never got them back.
No one that posts here anymore, so I'm bugging them too.

That Dana Bell book you showed me is selling for $150.00 on Amazon used.

Goose

Hey Dice,
looks familiar. Just found it back overhere as well.

Sorry Goose, couldn't find more A-10 related books.

Have you tried Don Logan ?

Its not any of the Logan books.

Its just a small 2 or 3 line paragraph in a \"Event reference\" It'll be in the last pages of the book.
Its not a \"Coffee table book\" it would be in one of the paperback books, showing lots of pictures of A-10's not just of Desert Storm, but very few of the Newer Grey paint jobs.
It'll be geared towards the Desert Storm jets but not totally, it'll have to be 92-95 time frame.

Thanks Goose

I wonder where Fender is? He was there too.

Goose

Goose,

I was there with MB, If memory serves me right, I think it happened between 1 Jan 91 and the start of the Air War on 16 Jan. Do thoes dates sound about right? As for the \"launching\" date I can not remember the exact date. I was working ICT's during the war and one of the weapons cres dropped a 500lb while taking it off the ammo trailer, I remember having to run, run, run, back to the Falcon AMU tent.

Jb

Goose,

maybe this helps :

via Google.
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airc ... rtzer.html

www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/ar310-25.pdf


André

Sky warrior thats the \"Real First \" evidence\" of the Mishap, thanks.

Jpig, it happened I'm pretty sure after the war started because I didnt get back from the FOL until after the 1st of January and I didnt get my Team for the \"Charlie Block\" until right before the war started.
The other thing that sticks out is the MAV went into the wall of the \"Candy Store\" next to it(where they stored all the MAV's ,AMMO and Bombs\" for the ICT's . It was Bomb dumps revetment , right there where
Charlie,Delta and FOX met there at the Taxi way .

So I dont know I remember the MK-82 , and Weapons on our end Armed a CBU-58 and stopped it with a screw driver from going off.
I got the job of towing that Jet out of the area.

But my mind is foggy as to when the Mav fired, I just know it was a Reservist who did it, because he had never been trained with \"Live Missiles\" before and did the TGM test without the TO.

I aways wondered if they had a map of KFIA with the revetments in place?

Goose

yep goose you are correct it was a reservist unit lat launched the mav, but i remember that our ict spots were away from the incident, i believe the launched mav was almost right in the center of all the hogs, if you remember falcon and panther were on the end of the runway ( I cant remeber which end) but you guys and DM were on the opposite end. We had a few of your hogs come thru our ict spots, but it was rare. Were your at England when we hurrivaced from the beach there and drove 22 hrs on a bus there?

JB

Goose no luck on my end. I didn't look through everything I have (would take a while) but, the ones I did look through have no reference to the mav...sorry.

Skywarriors, man I've had this book forever!

I wonder if I placed everything A-10 related I have up on Ebay what I could get for it??

What you get ? Your medication ?

I couldn't sell my stuff.

Jpig,

Yep I was there at England when you guys dropped in on us,
And of course RED got SCREWED! We recovered the jets over on MIKE,LIMA and JOKER roles over by the \"Hot Gun Area\".
I was getting off work when they said you guys were coming in, plus I had
APG SUPER duty too.
It took for ever to refuel them HOGS and the 74th was supposed to come over, I think the 75th was TDY. We got off around 2300 that night after coming in at 1200.

You Guys sure did a Number on the Hotel!!!!!!!!! They talked about that for along time.

The MAV hit I'm pretty sure across from ECHO taxiway because I dont remember a \"ECHO revetment \" Thats MID FIELD.
We were South east of the Blast, at the NW corner of the revetment having a smoke break waiting on CAS/SAR Alert(thats why I think it happened after the war started) had no Broke jets except what PAT and his crew had in the CLSS(ABDR) area.
We were NE of our OPs down there.

NO and FAC ICTed on our end with our Birds and then Blue used the hot-pits at night on our end after the Lawn Darts came thru and caught them on the way back.

You Guys ever had to Hot Pit the Moody F-16's on your end? I knew you got a team later on in to take care of them later because they
\"BITCHED AND MOANED\" about living in tents.

I learned how to EOR and DE=ARM F-16's and a F-4G plus refuel Lawn darts,Pre-flight them etc.. at the FOL then KFIA.
You remember that Dart that came in \"EPRU\" only and the damn thing quit on him on touch down?
That was one \"

Pilot when he got out of the jet.. I dont blame him either.

We were lucky at KFIA that nothing ever crashed,unlike the FOL at KKMC.

Jbpig, you work Night Squadron or Day Squadron?

By the way Dice, I found my Dana Bell book, a friend of mine has it used it for me A-10 that he had made for me in the PI.

Goose

Oh Boo Hoo Goose! LMAO

Were you there when Black had to get your Red Trash ready, while you guys go recalled and had a major bag drag? Think that was the Panama trip mnaybe? Late 84 or 85 time frame.

We had kept a tow crew around for a hangar queen that was supposedly coming home from phase that night. When they finally decided to give it up and call it a night, the phones start ringing off the hooks as we are walking out of the building!
They wanted everyone to stop and wanted to know exactly who was still there!
We werent told anything other than go generate Red Jets for deployment, tanks and all!

Now need I remind you this is like 2:30 or 3:00 in the morning if I remember correctly! I had been there since 2 in the afternoon!

So we go and start hanging tanks and trying to clear all the write ups we could so the birds could boogey out to where-ever!
Noone was really telling us what was going on, other than the fact that this was the real deal and to act like it and do the right stuff! LOL

I remember they emptied the barracks out and started recalling most anyone that would answer a phone!
We had the Red Hawgs being generated by the Black & Blue Crews and actually everyone worked real good together!
Unfortunately not enough of the Red tails were worthy of going on the trip and we ended having to generate several Black and Blue jets.
I'm thinking all Red tails went and the others were only used as ground spares.

Finally got off the base about 1 or 2 in the afternoon! That was one helluva 24 hour shift for the few of us lunkheads who got the all night shaft! LOL

If I remember right Goose........wasn't there a bunch of crap during that one because alot of the Red guy didnt take the recall serious and had bed sheets and dirty laundry in their MOBags?

Think this was on here somewhere before.......were you around for the round fired off inside the shop, thru the APG bread truck going by and the round ending up near the base hospital?
Think I was TDY when that happened, ony remember hearing of it.
Heard it was a round swelled in a barrel, barrel on stand on table, some idiot smacked it with a hammer.......well you know the rest!

Holy Cow !

Are you talking about the \"Honduras\" trip? That was Blue not us.
I got their in April of 85 and anytime we were on the \"Block\" and they did a recall as far as I can remember We hung our tanks, I got OP's CK duty.
That was one thing \"Barney\" our flight chief insisted on we hang our own tanks.
The possible \"Panama\" trip when the F-117's were in the hangar(WLT) we never got \"Dragged for\" because my wife was 3 weeks away from having our 2nd one and I was left in charge of AFLT if they left because I was that I wanted to go!

Or thinking about how long you were there the \"Grenada\" trip I was in Japan back then.

I saw 2 different GAU-8 mishaps just on the Red side, I do remember something about the round going off in Gun shop.
Then the Gun that went off and the round that headed for the hospital I heard that one too.
Remember too that when England had A-7's they fired 3 20mm shells into the Control Tower, Spud knows about that one and when I was there you could still see the impact holes.

Goose

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Goose,

I worked days during the war, if there ever was a true day shift working noon to midnight. Ya we had fun at the hotel when we droped in on ya'll! hehehe. The trip sucked to say the least..........

I can not remember haveing to hot pit any lawn darts from moody, I know i was in a port a potty when one made a sharp turn and the jet blast almost knocked it over with me in it!!!! That was not funny at the time, but looking back on it now ......

JB

It was definately Red. Cause we bitched about going "around to the other side of the world" that night!! Helping out Blue wasnt as bad, we were still "close to home" per se! LOL

I'm thinkin it was Grenada. They flew in and sat on the beach sunning themselves for a week or so. Never flew a mission as I remember being told.
There was a news story shot of a 4 ship of Hawgs crossing a sand dune. This apparently was on inbound and was only flying shot available to the press!

How about those "Dog & Dew" runs to Blue section after 1st launch? I remember they had set up a small snack shack thing in their AMU. Hot Dogs, Mountain Dew, some candy and chips, just some thigs to keep your blood sugar up! LOL