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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2004, 12:17 
Kerry Posts Wrong Records, Senior Chief Says, "HA!"
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From boston.com :

Discrepancies noted in Kerry's record
Ex-skipper says website wrong

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff April 23, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Vietnam combat records posted on John F. Kerry's campaign website for the month of January 1969 as evidence of his service aboard swift boat No. 94 describe action that occurred before Kerry was skipper of that craft, according to the officer who said he commanded the boat at the time.
On the site, the Massachusetts senator is described as the skipper of Navy boat No. 94 during several actions in late January 1969.

However, Edward Peck, who was the skipper of the 94 before Kerry took over, said combat reports posted by the campaign for January 1969 involve action when he was the skipper, not Kerry. Peck, who was seriously wounded in fighting that took place on Jan. 29, 1969, said he believes Kerry campaign aides made a mistake in claiming Kerry as skipper of the 94 at that time.
Military records Combat reports Command history (From johnkerry.com)

On the Kerry website, the report of the combat on that day on the 94 boat is posted as occurring during Kerry's time as skipper of the boat. Peck said Kerry replaced him after the Jan. 29, 1969, event.

"Those are definitely mine," Peck said, referring to the combat reports that the Kerry campaign posted as representing Kerry's action. "There is no doubt about it."

A Kerry campaign spokesman, Michael Meehan, said in an e-mail that the campaign had obtained the combat reports for the 94 from the Navy. He did not directly address the question of why the campaign describes Kerry being skipper of the 94 at a time when Peck says he commanded the boat.

The reports at issue are in a 20-page batch representing Kerry's combat in January 1969. The reports include references to some dramatic action, including an ambush of Patrol Craft Fast, or PCF, 94. In addition to posting the information online, the campaign sent out an e-mail yesterday afternoon repeating the claim that Kerry was the skipper of the 94 boat throughout January and describing action the campaign said Kerry experienced while commanding the craft.

For example, in a summary of action that occurred Jan. 26, 1969, the campaign says Kerry served on boat No. 94 alongside another boat, No. 66. "PCFs 94 and 66 escorted troops up the Ong Doc River early in the morning when they were ambushed by gun and rocket fire from approximately 40 men on both sides of the river," the campaign summary says. "Two B-40 rounds hit close to Kerry's boat, while PCF 66 received 2 B-40 rocket hits. Three men on PCF66 were wounded. A junk containing South Vietnamese troops was also sunk, killing 11 South Vietnamese troops. Intelligence reports after the mission indicated that the Viet Cong troops may have planned the ambush in advance."

Peck said he was the skipper of the 94 at this time and that Kerry was not on the craft. While combat reports show several boats traveling with the 94, the campaign website says only that Kerry was the skipper of the 94 and does not try to place him on the other boats.

In another report, the campaign summarizes action that took place on Jan. 29, 1969, this way: "While Kerry's boat and another [PCF72] were probing a canal along the river, Kerry's boat came under heavy fire and was hit by a B-40 rocket in the cabin area. One member of Kerry's crew -- Forward Gunner David Alston -- suffered shrapnel wounds in his head. His injuries were not considered serious and he was sent to the 29th Evac Hospital at Binh Thuy."

Peck said he was the skipper on this day as well. Peck was also injured in the ambush and was hospitalized.

As a result, Kerry then took over the crew, Peck said. The Navy combat report posted by the Kerry campaign states that Peck and Alston were injured in the same event. There is no mention of Kerry in that report.

Kerry's commanding officer, George Elliott, said in a telephone interview that he vividly recalls Peck's injury and hospitalization and Kerry's replacement of Peck. "I think somebody made a mistake who doesn't know" the timing of Kerry's service, Elliott said. Kerry was skipper of boat No. 44 in December and January before taking over command of the 94, he said.

This Kerry likes to lie.

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this is as funny/sad as Kerry throwing someone ELSES medals on the White House lawn, and just the other day Kerry saying "all my medicle records are available to the public" while his campaign manager was saying that this medicle file and that medicle file would NOT be made available to the public (for instance the file on his FIRST Purple Heart medal, which has been described as little more than a fingernail scrape).

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It strikes me as dishonourable. I think of Adm. Bora who comited suicide (while he was the CNO) because the media plastered him for wearing ribbons that he was rightfully awarded but that they didnt think he deserved. He was that sensitive to his honor being questioned. Kerry I dont have any doubt served well, but why does everyone have to make it bigger than it obviously was. For me it would be enough to say I served honorably. I wouldnt need to be bigger than I was. Yes there are times I say 'gee I really wish I wasnt just a Crew Chief', but the reality is, all people contribute. Some more than others but God only judges us on what we do with what we were given to do. Shouldnt saying I did my best with what I had to do, nothing more, nothing less, be enough even for a politician ?
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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2004, 22:35 
The other Kerry screw-up of the day is pretty funny too.

Apparently he gave some big talk tough speech about the evils of SUVs....turns out one is registered in his name.

When asked by reporters about the descrepincy, he responded "It's not mine, it's the families".

Yeah, sure Pinnochio.

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<i>When asked by reporters about the descrepincy, he responded "It's not mine, it's the families".</i>

Reminds me of the "of course I smoked pot, but I never inhaled" answer.


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Well at least Kerry has military records to release unlike his opponent.

I dislike many of Kerry's politics, but, hell, at least he served in Vietnam.



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ADM. BORA WAS FROM MY PARENTS TOWN,THEY PUT UP A MEMORIAL PARK FOR HIM

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PostPosted: 26 Apr 2004, 09:44 
Bush not only served in the military, he also released every last military record relating to that service.

Kerry's war record is starting to take on the appearance of smoke and mirrors.

3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star in 5 months?

Please...

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It strikes me as dishonourable. I think of Adm. Bora who comited suicide (while he was the CNO) because the media plastered him for wearing ribbons that he was rightfully awarded but that they didnt think he deserved. He was that sensitive to his honor being questioned. Kerry I dont have any doubt served well, but why does everyone have to make it bigger than it obviously was. For me it would be enough to say I served honorably. I wouldnt need to be bigger than I was. Yes there are times I say 'gee I really wish I wasnt just a Crew Chief', but the reality is, all people contribute. Some more than others but God only judges us on what we do with what we were given to do. Shouldnt saying I did my best with what I had to do, nothing more, nothing less, be enough even for a politician ?
Criminies I sound like my mother sometimes.

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson
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It strikes me as dishonourable. I think of Adm. Bora who comited suicide (while he was the CNO) because the media plastered him for wearing ribbons that he was rightfully awarded but that they didnt think he deserved. He was that sensitive to his honor being questioned. Kerry I dont have any doubt served well, but why does everyone have to make it bigger than it obviously was. For me it would be enough to say I served honorably. I wouldnt need to be bigger than I was. Yes there are times I say 'gee I really wish I wasnt just a Crew Chief', but the reality is, all people contribute. Some more than others but God only judges us on what we do with what we were given to do. Shouldnt saying I did my best with what I had to do, nothing more, nothing less, be enough even for a politician ?
Criminies I sound like my mother sometimes.

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson
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John F. Kerry is running for the President of the United States and ANYTHING that is demonstrably accurate and attests to his character is not only reasonable and justified, but neccesary. We, as citizens and veterans, have a civic responsibility to cull out the charlatans who would parade themselves as something other than what they truly are. I will make my case to you based on his ACTIONS and NOT my opinions:
1) FACT> John Kerry, by his own words, has created a contradictory scenario of what he did with whomever's (??) ribbon bars and (or??) medals!!
2) FACT> John Kerry, by his actions and those of his subordinates, has promised to release his complete military records and then renegged on that assurance
3) FACT> John Kerry has a somewhat conflicting account of the incident behind a riverside hootch wherein he dispatched an unarmed enemy combatant, when compared to other eyewitness testimony. Is this the stuff awards are made for?
4) FACT> Of the 3 incidences resulting in awarding of a Purple Heart, one was for a superficial scratch wound treated with bacitracin and a bandage as no further medical treatment was needed.
Guess who didn't insist that this was nothing to write him up for a Purple Heart on while 'grunts' were taking all matter of wound abuse with NO notice taken? CLUE: His initials are JFK and he's still alive and well.
5) FACT> Upon his return to the States he became one of the leading and most strident Vietnam Vets Against the War and constantly exaggerated his (almost always) secondhand knowledge of what was going on in-theatre. When , as a Presidential candidate, he is called on said statements he invariably states he "may have been a bit over the top" and the like as his explanations.
And so it goes..., on and on with a consistency of pattern and inconsistency of explanation. Let me ask you a question as you appear to be a bit weak in the knees regarding your impression of him. He captains a riverboat. A crewman is wounded and flailing about in the water. He directs the man at the helm to come about and he reaches over the side to assist in retrieving this person, while taking intermittent shore-based arms fire. What should have happened if he DIDN'T come about to ATTEMPT to save the man? How about a court-martial? Well! If he could have been court-martialled for NOT DOING HIS DUTY, then how come he gets a shiny star FOR DOING HIS DUTY??? For once in his life he did the right thing without equivocating. A lot of guys did a lot of the RIGHT THING over there and NOBODY CARES!! NOBODY KNOWS!! This creep does though and can't wait to come back and besmearch their collective memories. I really do hope there is that special place in hell for phonies like this bum. And now..., reward him with the highest office in the land and responsibility as Commander-in-Chief. The hell you say! We just survived another feckless bum for 8 years and this Nation need not endure one more.

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PostPosted: 09 May 2004, 09:53 
Kerry must be defeated in Nov.

I have no doubt that not only will he pull us out of Iraq at the soonest possible opportunity should he win, but that he will cut the military even further than it has already been cut(decimated is more accurate), and that he will further move the US toward socailism.

The Democratic party should be American Socailist party. Their platform is one of unabashed socailism and outright lies.

The Republicans have plenty of warts too, but at least they're not trying to destroy the spirit of the Constitution of the United States of America.

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."

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