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...well, training is going well here...about a month and a half left including low altitude tactics and air to air. First the obvious - the A10 is awesome, flies great and all that...the gun, well, HOLY CRAP!!!....dropping bombs all the time is also great.

Second, I got my assignment out of here. I will be heading out to Korea for a year then back here to the bulldogs.

I am happy to be getting closer to CMR...formal training courses get real old, real quick. It has been and still is a blast though. My brain has been full for about 3 months now but I still manage to cram more info in every day.

Anyway, just checking in and seeing what's up here....

I'll be at D-M for 2 weeks in March. Looking forward to seeing how much the base has changed since I was there last.

"face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!"

Hey, great hearing from you Major!

Good luck in Korea, dress warm.

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Luke!

I may be seeing you over in Korea. They've been needing IPs and tapped me to go there in the August or so time frame for a year. Guess I'll be seein' ya there.

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Luke!

I may be seeing you over in Korea. They've been needing IPs and tapped me to go there in the August or so time frame for a year. Guess I'll be seein' ya there.



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Looks like I'll have connections at Osan again....Don't know about her now, but she wasn't a bad assignment in 97-98...I had a blast...

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TG - that's great!! My class has 14 people, 4 guard and 10 AD. Out of the 10 AD 5 of us are going to Osan first. We sure will need some IPs and flight leads. The more the merrrier so us new guys can actually fly...

Sniper, I'm not a major yet...my board doesn't meet until 2005...

Dammit, why can't i ever get yer rank straight?

Lt, Capt, Major...i think i'll stick with Luke, lol.

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TG - that's great!! My class has 14 people, 4 guard and 10 AD. Out of the 10 AD 5 of us are going to Osan first. We sure will need some IPs and flight leads. The more the merrrier so us new guys can actually fly...

Sniper, I'm not a major yet...my board doesn't meet until 2005...
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Luke,

Well, according to Sys, I'll be flying my ass off as Osan is always hurting for IPs. Maybe that'll keep me from doin' the queep we have to do when we're not flying! Nope, probably not.

Ifin' i had any sense i'd have become board admin of a site that features two seat aircraft.

Maybe then i'd be able to bum a ride off of one of you guys.

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You know there is still a two-seat A-10. In fact, once upon a time, one of the Guard units (which will remain nameless) had offered to fund the restoration of it to flying status if it could be kept at that base. AF said no way. So it's still sitting out in the California desert waiting to be put into a museum, which may or may not ever happen. We could've had a flying two-seat A-10 right now. Oh well.

And i could've gotten a ride.

AF is run by party poopers.

I bet they LOSE more money every year than it would've cost to rebuild, house, and operate that bird for a whole decade.



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So anyway TG, just how much internal volume does a personal stores container have....and can one be modified discreetly with a couple windows and a hose from the onboard heater?

LOL

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Heater hose? it's an A-10!! Cut the front off the pod, give Snipe some goggles and go! You wont go fast enough or high enough to need a heater(unless your into that "lawn dart" kinda experiance). You WILL need a comb for your hair and a bugscraper for your grin <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> ( I know I would)

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TG - what an amazingly small world the A10 community is. Just being able to hear the assignment guy's name dropped and know who you are talking about is cool. Much different than in AETC where there are TONS of dudes from all the communities. In fact, all of the A10 guys that I knew at sheppard are known by most of the IPs here in the Dragons. I like that a lot. Even guys who used to fly hogs and now fly other things are recognizable. For example, we recognized the name and callsign of the former A10 weapons officer guy who now flies vipers when he was involved in a recent F16 mishap at Fort Huachucha. Or my T38 flight commander from when I was a student who used to fly A10s. He got out after AETC and went to the guard. After 9/11 when he got furloughed he got back in active duty flying F117s and flew in OIF. I have only been in the military 7 years and already I see people I know EVERYWHERE I go....pretty cool.

Sniper,

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Luke, it's too bad you are unnecessarily limiting your Hog experience by going from D-M to Osan and back to D-M. There is a big world of Hog Driving out there in places like Pope, Eielson , and Spang that would expand your horizons well beyond East TAC and the Shells. D-M is a training base with an ops squadron, you want to be at an ops base.

Good luck at Osan!

Coach

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You mean like OEF and Iraq?? Last I heard the 354th goes places for 6 months at a time.....from every person I have talked to the next few years will be an experience for nearly every hog driver from AD and guard to get time flying in a few different parts of the world.

.....besides, that just covers the next 4 years or so...there are plenty of opportunities for the other bases later....and an assignment to a city where a bunch of your family lives is not something that happens often in the military...

Congrats, Luke. Wish I was in your shoes! I'm a Hawg guy currently on loan to AETC to teach 38 students how to be Hawg pilots. If I can get them to stop saying "cleared" on the radio would be a huge accomplishment. It's "GO Fighting Wing", not "cleared Fighting Wing" already!
Hope to see ya when I get back to the Hawg in about 2 more years. Do well, study hard, be a good wingman. If you do well enough maybe you'll be my IP when I requal.
Cheers...

ATTACK!!!!!!!

Every Hog unit except Osan goes to OEF and Iraq, the 354th is nothing special in that regard...I'm talking about the rest of your job. Living with momma ended when you graduated from high school.

Coach

Coach....whatever dude...I never said the 354th was unique in regards to deployement. In fact I said the opposite.

Here are a couple of the reasons I will happily come back to DM after OSAN. I think it is a nice city with lots to do. There are a lot of experienced pilots to draw lessons from. DM has some of the best ranges in the world in terms of actually being able to acquire range time and employ weapons on them. While I am deployed away from my wife and kids they have family in town to help support them. If you have some sort of thing against DM then fine. It sounds, though, like you just have some sort of problem with me...so I will just repeat...whatever dude.

Luke, I have no problem with you personally. It's just that I have seen many young drivers limit their opportunities by getting hung up on going back to D-M. You better figure out how to support your family when you're deployed without momma being co-located or it will be a short career in the CAF. Where you are in your career is way too early to be looking at assignments in terms of geography. Coming out of Osan, you are able to write your own ticket to any Hog base in the world, take that into consideration. Take it for what it's worth.

Good luck in the remainder of RTU and at Osan. Work hard and you will be rewarded for it.

Coach

Thanks for the encouragement...I do understand where you are coming from but I also am one of those guys who takes more than just one or two things into consideration as far as assignments go. The family colocation is not the primary reason for wanting to stay here but it is a nice little side effect. My immediate family (wife and kids) has been very supportive already and will continue to be wherever we may end up being stationed. Since my career is not even half done (my majors board meets next year) I am sure I will have the opportunity to be stationed at places other than DM and I look forward to any future assignment. I tend to look at all the positives of an assignment. So if the AF tells me that after Korea I am coming back to DM I will find all of the positives of that rather than dwelling on the negatives because as we all know, there are good and bad things about ANY assignment. When I got FAIPed that was not my first choice by a long shot. But instead of dwelling on not getting hogs 3 years ago I look at the things that were positive. I still would not choose to FAIP but I can at least see that I learned a lot and got a lot of valuable flying experience.

By the way, I did not get a Korea slot and then get tochoose my follow on if that is what you are thinking. When we got our drop the Korea slots already had follow ons, 2 to Eielson, 1 to Pope, 1 to DM, and 1 to Spang. We all had a dream sheet and basically flipped some coins to figure out who got what assignment. I got Korea/DM. 5 of the 10 of our non guard classmates are all going to Korea and we all already have follow ons as part of the assignment. I think the assignments other than your first are the ones where you get to write your own ticket as to a follow on.

Regardless I think you are right - work hard where ever you go and it will pay off tremendously.

luke,
Glad you like Tucson! I was born here, believe it or not, and I've lived all over Arizona, but Tucson has always been "home". I'm not in the service, but I have had occasion to be at DM now and then, they have made some big changes over the years.

Really enjoy watching A-10's, especially when doing flight checks (think that's what they're called--hard turns, climbs, dives, etc.). I work near DM, very cool seeing the a/c.

Good luck at Osan!

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