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PostPosted: 03 Apr 2004, 17:56 
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The Hawgsmoke website has the closes sound clip I have ever heard of the way I remember the Avenger sounding. I went to Poinset (S?) range near Shaw a number of times and the sound I remember is just like the one on the Hawgsmoke website. To listen go to www.hawgsmoke2004.com website and allow the load screen to load and wait for the next screen, you should then head the GAU-8A sound clip.

I do have a couple of questions, in the clip you can hear two distinct sounds, one has the "poping" sound of the gun I remember so well which you never hear on other sound clips. Two, you hear the "growl" so remembered by myself and the sound you hear most on TV and other sources on the A-10. Question is, what are the two sounds, the gun firing (poping) I can understand but what is the second growling sound?

I do remeber three sounds when I used to watch them at Shaw, first the poping sound of the guns, two the growl, and three was the sound of the shells impacting the ground.

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PostPosted: 03 Apr 2004, 18:56 
The growl is probably the projectiles ripping through the air.

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Dice if you can remember correctly from moody sitting at the smoking area watching strafing runs on the range...think of it logically with the speed of sound and stuff. you would see the jet strafe and see the guns smoke, watch the acft pull off, then hear the 'firing' sound then the impact of the rounds, however I am not aware of a 3rd growl, but I am open to it being the sound of the rounds breaking the sound barrier.

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I had the opportunity to see the Hog fire on a couple of trucks at the end of the runway in Nea Anchilos AB in Greece a while ago. I believe you guys are right in saying that the third sound is actually the sound of the rounds breaking the sound barrier. I also remember hearing the gun actually spooling back (for lack of a better term)after it's burst. I have some pretty cool pictures of the aftermath on the trucks too. Maybe I can scan them someday and get them on the site here.....


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JB the thrid sound was the shells hitting the ground, it sounded like (to me anyway) a large sewing machine. It went like this, you heard the "popping" sound, maybe a 1/2 later the "growl" and depending out far he was when he shot the sewing machine.

You guys maybe right about the growl being the shells breaking the sound barrier but this is the sound most used to represent the GAU-8A when it's not really the sound of the gun.

I know it's a minor point but I always thought the growl was a by-product of recording the gun's sound but the sound on Hawgsmoke made me remember it's not, the real sound of the gun is more of the popping sound than the growl.

I was going to start threads on other boards and wanted you guys opinion on what the sounds are before I did.

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that first almost static noise kind of sound is probly the mach wave of the projectiles. That second vrrrrrrrrpp sound is the sound I have heard many times in clips of gatling guns (usually staionary gun firings), and is almost certainly the "muzzle report". Snipe you must have heard something similar when you saw that Vulcan ADV crack off a few hundred rounds ?

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PostPosted: 04 Apr 2004, 23:36 
Actually i instigated that Vulcan into firing a few hundred rounds by depressing the firing switch. :)

Gotta love crosstraining.

However you have to be downrange of the weapon a bit to hear the sonic report over the muzzle blast of the propellant charge. I am happy to report that i did not stray downrange the day we were firing the Vulcan PIVADS, lol.

Any projectile that cracks Mach 1 will have a supersonic report(which is why it's fairly pointless to suppress most rifles), but the larger the projectile/faster the speed, the louder the report will be.

Normally a supersonic projectile makes a tearing sound as it passes overhead/by. I'm thinking that it's the massive ROF of mini-guns and rotary cannons that makes it sound more like a growl than a tear.

A large scale- Battalion or more- FFE of Artillery passing directly overhead makes a similar sound(VERY LOUD in person).

Mudd did some FAC-G work in his youth, i'm sure he's familiar with the sound i'm talking about.

It's way cool. :)

EDITED TO ADD: I Just listened to the clip. Definitely the sonic boom of the rounds that's making the growl. The initial report is the propellant charges of the cartridges, the brrrrrrrrrr afterwards is the sonic report of 70rds per second tearing ass downrange. A large arty barrage does not have the same frequency of growl, it's more like a slow motion version, and is a lot higher pitched.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Mudd did some FAC-G work in his youth, i'm sure he's familiar with the sound i'm talking about. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Yeah i'm as deaf as a whore house rat....Just ask the old crow. She will tell ya all about it too....

I keep telln her it's from the military.... And if it would make her feel any better she can grow a pair of Lips and go sue the shit out of them, Of course shes satisfied with the lips she has and lets me know all about it..... Sheeesh

Actually Ive spent a great deal of time GFAC/Range/FAc(a) nail Teaching etc.... WWGulf1... Im one of the few guys tha can put cotton, Cigereeete butts etc in my ears and it makes no differance... As long as the hair on my neck still stands up i'm good to go.. cAUSE I DONT HEAR SHIT!

trust me, when you have All 6 guns doing a Boom Boom Solo on the Lords of thunder and rock and roll show.... It will literally scare the shit out of you for the first time.....

First you here.."Shot" I reply..yaeh ok as im staring at the ship "Shot out".....See the Smoke report..Then some screech....as about the time i hear the whine... "Over head" comes emits from the radio...
then I turn around as the sound is intensifying... You feel it in your skin,.... in your gut....and then the hair on your neck and arms raises, your skin tightens, you tuck your shoulders in...Then everything in front of you in the impact area a mile away Just dissapears. First its a bright light, it nearly blinds you...Then you feel the pressure a bout 3 seconds later, then you Hear the Sound of the WP Crack off....What was the target range is now this white Cloud and Water spout spitting up in the Air as that Round had buried itself about 15 Feet under ground into the water table and exploded....then very weakly you here the radio emit "Splash"....as the gently 1/4 VALUE wind catches the the smoke and carries it across the range.

Were all amazed..but gunny the tried and true hard ass has allready factored the range and adjustments. Back 100 Right 35.... He 6 batteries armor and light infantry in the open....

Then the Ships calls back...."Shot"..."Shot" ...Shot"..."....."Screach begins..with the muffled...."Shot...shot.....shot....shot" "Overhead... repeating Last." ...."Shot...shot...shot.....shot...... Splash" the sound of the Sky comes apart and Master GunnySgt throws your ass to the deck.... "WHoooom....and the Sky just goes fricken Black.....Your almost in the fetal position by this point as the Shockwave accordian hits......Dust and sand and debree is blowing in your nose mouth and eyes..it burns, as you hear Gravel hit around you......Gunny is on the binos... Calling in more adjustments. "Armor flanking to the east Adjust fire 400 Left elevaton 100... Fire for effect... "Shot...Shot...Shot....Shot.... You slowly roll over that your not dead and then the ringing starts and you start to make out sounds and life around you.... What used to be used cars...is now hurling over your head and into the Water...the New 1stLt getting his Orientation Shoot.... IS in shock like the rest of us green Horns....

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Dice if you can remember correctly from moody sitting at the smoking area watching strafing runs on the range...think of it logically with the speed of sound and stuff. you would see the jet strafe and see the guns smoke, watch the acft pull off, then hear the 'firing' sound then the impact of the rounds, however I am not aware of a 3rd growl, but I am open to it being the sound of the rounds breaking the sound barrier.

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Ah...the smoking table...didn't smoke but enjoyed sitting watching the jets strafe...then having to run to my spot because no one told me my jet came down early...lol....sure do miss my crew dogg days!

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The way I see this is, if you are close enough you will hear...

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... the sonic boom of the rounds that's making the growl. The initial report is the propellant charges of the cartridges.
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and a thrid sound of the rounds hitting the target. If you are far away, like the smoking table at Moody, the only sound you will hear is the shells breaking the sound barrier. I belive this is why the growl is use for the gun because most people hear the A-10 from a distance and are not close enough to hear the "initial report" of the propellant.

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for those who like me kept getting a page error - i managed to dig through the code and found a direct link to the wav <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

http://www.hawgsmoke2004.com/sounds/gunburst.wav


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2004, 16:19 
That one got saved right to the harddrive. :)

Thanx dude.

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I'm a TACP terminal attack controler. Love the site, and you are all correct. The first sound is the gun going off, the second the supersonic rounds, and the third is the rounds impacting.


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