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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 10:49 
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I WANT MY GI SON TO SERVE UNDER BUSH

By STEVE DUNLEAVY

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October 26, 2004 -- THE cliché goes: "Just business, nothing personal."

The hell it is.

John Kerry makes me weak in the ankles — and now it's personal, not business.

In the next few days, there will be a person reporting for duty in Iraq. His name is Army Capt. Peter J. Dunleavy.

Capt. Peter J. Dunleavy is not one ounce more special than the guys and gals he will go to Iraq with — no more special than the thousands of the brave boys and girls who have gone before him, and those who will certainly go after him.

He is, of course, special to his wife, Debbie, his mother, Gloria, his brother, Sean, Sean's girlfriend, Laura — and his friends in the sports bars who cheer for the Giants.

He is special to me, as are all the thousands of boys and girls who serve this country, because he looks at fear as a headache and duty as the ultimate.

And yet, John Kerry makes it look like those guys and gals are just victims — wrong war, wrong time, wrong place.

How dare he say that to our brave boys and girls? How dare he whisper it — let alone shout it to the whole world?

Now I am somewhere in Oklahoma to see off Capt. Pete, 37, my eldest boy. I ask him what he makes of Kerry's talk.

"Dad, we don't listen to politicians. We listen to our commanding officers," he says, growing bored already with the conversation.

I ask him where he is going in Iraq, what he will be doing, as all the worried parents of so many thousands of brave boys and girls surely do.

"Don't know. I'll just go where I am needed," he says matter-of-factly.

Sunday he left for another base, where he will be re-equipped, before taking off to Iraq in a few days.

On Saturday night, Pete and wife Debbie, a reservist in the Navy, had their last night out for a long time — at the Navy Ball.

It was there that Pete was given the official honor of re-enlisting his wife for another two years.

Capt. Pete is not worried about Kerry's outrageous statement — wrong war, wrong time, wrong place — because he's stronger and braver than that.

But I sure am worried.

In my book, Kerry is giving comfort and succor to the enemy. And don't forget that Tokyo Rose got jail time for it after World War II, and Jane Fonda, Kerry's soul mate, should have during Vietnam.

"Look, don't worry. I have been in the Reserves for more than 10 years — we are all well-trained, well-equipped," said Capt. Pete.

"To be honest, apart from having to leave Debbie back here, I'm psyched," he told me. "It's a privilege to serve and be given a new chapter of experience.

"I'll just knock this tour over and get on with it. No biggie."

I was in Baghdad last year, and it was very easy for me. Death was everywhere, but no one was shooting at me.

But that won't be the case for Pete and the men and women with him.

"Dude, don't worry about it," Capt. Pete says again.

And that's the attitude of the thousands below him and above him, the brave men and women doing the fighting.

But this father does worry — and worries even more about John Kerry.

When John Kerry says wrong war, wrong time, wrong place he undermines not my boy, but our boys. He embarrasses the United States abroad and he saps morale.

And that demands the severest reprimand. It is duplicity and cowardice and political opportunism of the worst kind. It's enough to make you cry.

I don't care what's on your watch, Sen. Kerry, this one's on my watch.

And then we come to the final "see ya later" at the airport. We hugged — and I couldn't talk.

Then I felt something strange — for the first time, after a lifetime of feeling like an adolescent, I felt old. Sending a kid off to war does that, I guess.

So Capt. Peter J. Dunleavy — and all the guys and gals that are going with you, and all that are there, and all that will come after you — go for the sake of our freedom. For the sake of your wife Debbie's freedom, your mother Gloria's freedom, your brother Sean's freedom, his girlfriend Laura's freedom — and the freedom of the boys in the sports bars cheering for the Giants.

Heck, for the sake of your dog's freedom. His name is Salty Dog. He loves you so much.

To you and all your comrades: Go with God.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 12:49 
Great letter.

"Molon labe".
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THERE'S JUST AS MANY SAYING "I WANT MY SON TO SERVE UNDER KERRY",

YOU GOT TO RESPECT HIS SON'S POINT FIGHTING INTHAT SHITHOLE,BUT HIS FATHER USING IT AS "POLITICAL TEAR JERKING" IS <img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle>

I GOT QUICK QUESTION?
THEY CHANGE THE RULES ON MILITARY GOING TO POLITICAL RALLIES IN UNIFORM?

NOW THERE'S A DIFFEREANCE IF THE PRESIDENT SHOWS UP ON BASE FOR A STUMP SPEECH,BUT OFF MILITARY BASES GI'S IN UNIFORM SHOWING UP AT POLITICAL RALLIES IN UNIFORM IS AGAINST THE RULES.
I'VE SEEN IT ON THE NEWS ON BOTHSIDES.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 15:25 
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I will tell you what I dont want, I dont want Kerry's name on my retirement orders. I dont want a letter from Kerry telling me how he appreciates my 20 plus years of service. What I do want is for George W. Bush's name to be on my retirement orders and a letter from him telling my how he and my nation thank me for my service.

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and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 15:47 
To be honest Goose....no there isn't. Bush leads among Veterans and active duty military by a 3-1 margin.

"Molon labe".
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I THINK YOU GUYS MISSED MY QUESTION

THE FIRST PART I CAN RESPECT YOUR VIEWS

BUT I REMEMBER CLEARLY WE WERE TOLD "NOT" TO SHOW UP AT A POLITICALLY RALLY IN UNIFORM. WHAT YOU DID IN CIVILLIAN ATTIRE WAS YOUR CHOICE.


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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 17:08 
"I GOT QUICK QUESTION?
THEY CHANGE THE RULES ON MILITARY GOING TO POLITICAL RALLIES IN UNIFORM?"

Goose, when i was in you couldn't even wear BDUs off post. Lots has changed since 1990, but i honestly don't know the answer to your question bro.



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PROBABLY HAS BILL,
WEARING BDU'S OFF BASE WAS JUST PRETTY NEW WHEN I LEFT TOO ,I GOT BUSTED WITH MY 3RD SHIFT IN 83 AT DENNY'S FOR EATTING BREAKFEST IN OUR OLD UTILITY GREENS.
WE WORKED 16HRS, COULDNT LEAVE THE LINE DUE TO A "GROUND MISHAPE" WELL REALLY A FLYING MISHAP BECAUSE A PILOT TOOK OUT A CREWDOG WHILE TAXING INTO SPOT.
HAD THE JET ALMOST TO THE SPOT AND WANTED HIM TO COME UP AFTER THE FOD CHECK AND "OOPS" THE JET SHOT FORWARD ABOUT 15FT RUNNING OVER OLD "JIM" BREAKING 2 RIBS WHILE HE WAS DIVING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

SO SOME CBPO WEENIES TOLD ON US FOR BEING IN UNIFORM OFF BASE ,I GUESS BECAUSE WE TOOK THE LAST BIG TABLE <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>



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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2004, 20:03 
I didn't even know it was a no-no until i was on a payphone talking to my girl back home as a new E-2 in the mall at Lawton, OK(wearing my BDUs)...and some guy in civvies walks up and tells me so.

Being me, i told him to 'mind his fucking business'...and then he politely informed me that he was an off duty captain.

LOL, whoops. I was glad he didn't report me.

"Molon labe".
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Goose, you are correct... it is still against regulations for a military member to wear his/her uniform to political rallies.

fenderstrat72 - I agree with you I'm much rather have a letter from Bush. But, if by some chance Kerry gets elected and sends us a letter thanking us for our 20+ years of service we should meet in Washington and have a public burning of those letters. That way years later when we decide to run for public office we can retract our actions and claim that we never burned them and in fact supported Kerry in his election campaign...

capche-capche da - we go forward together

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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2004, 00:31 
Outstanding plan Lil Hitler.

LOL.

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I'm in if Kerry wins, which I so hope he doesnt.

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and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
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Goose the rules for eating of base in uniform has changed a lot over the years. Here at Shaw you can go into town any week day and into most any resturant and see GI's in BDU's. As for the political question, you cannot use your rank or title to indorse any canidate nor should you wear your uniform to any rallys.
Also Goose Snipe had it right about how the troops support Bush. The AF Times did a poll of GI's, active and reserve, and Bush was declared the winner by a wide margin. Roughly 66% active and 67% Guard/Reserve.

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THAT DIDNT SURPRISE ME, BUT GO TO RETIRED OR VET POLLS THEY SHOW THEM IN A DEAD HEAT.
LIKE I SAID LESS THAN A WEEK

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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2004, 17:46 
The last vet poll i saw had Bush up by 30 points. That was about a month ago.

I don't know a single vet(besides Goose) that supports Kerry. In fact, all the vets i know despise him.

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SUPPORT IS A BAD TERM, LETS JUST SAY "DONT LIKE BUSH MORE".
I GUESS IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT GROUP YOU TALK TOO AND WHERE AT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK SNIPE I HAVE SAID" I DONT LIKE EITHER AND I NEVER VOTE STRAIGHT TICKETS"

I GUESS IF YOU READ HERE ITS A CUT AND DRY RACE,IT AINT JUST LIKE VOTING FOR BUSH WITH CHENEY AS VP AND HATING HIS GUTS.
ITS HARD TO WEIGH IN ON POSITIONS THAT YOU BELIEVE IN BOTH WAYS,I HAVE HARD TIME TOO VOTING "WHATS BEST FOR ME TOO" .
I HAVE MY BALLOT ALREADY FIGURED OUT EXCEPT THE TOP PART IT ENDED UP 40% REP TO 60% DEM
BUT I GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER,POPULAR VOTE DONT COUNT ITS THE ELECT. COLLEAGE THAT DOES. SO WHATS THE POINT?
SO REALLY 538 PEOPLE CHOOSE THE PRES. NOT ONE CANIDATE CAME TO ILLINOIS OR CARED TO PLAY ANY AD'S,THE ONLY PRES AD'S I'VE SEEN HAS BEEN ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL.

I TALKED TO A W2 VET WHILE GETTING MY OIL CHANGED AND HE SAID "IT DONT MATTER,YOUR VOTE AND MINE DONT MATTER AND THEY'LL BOTH BREAK THEIR WORD"
THATS A PRETTY BLEAK STATEMENT BUT I REALLY FEEL THE SAME WAY.
I WAS HOPING REALLY SOMETHING WOULD JUST "BAM" HIT ME AND COULD CHOOSE BUT NOTHING YET.

I GUESS I'M A IDEALIST


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