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PostPosted: 06 Nov 2004, 23:16 
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This article is illustrates stupidity. Bush's reelection devistated those who believe in democracy. He idiots Bush won both the popular and electoral vote what are you bitching about. You have another shot in 4 more years, if your voting base all does do what this fool did.

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Man commits suicide at Ground Zero


BY ROCCO PARASCANDOLA, DEBORAH MORRIS AND SEAN GARDINER
Staff Writers

November 6, 2004, 7:11 PM EST

Distraught over the re-election of President George W. Bush, a Georgia man traveled to New York City, went to Ground Zero and killed himself with a shotgun blast, police said yesterday.

The suicide victim, Andrew Veal, 25, was discovered just before 8 a.m. yesterday when a worker for the Millennium Hotel looking at Ground Zero from an upper floor saw a man lying atop the concrete structure through which the 1 and 9 subway lines run.

The worker, thinking the man was sleeping, alerted colleagues and the Port Authority police were notified.

But when they got to Veal's body, they realized he had killed himself with a shot to the head from a .12-gauge shotgun.

No suicide note was found, but according to a Port Authority police source, family members said Veal, a registered Democrat, was despondent over Bush's defeat of Sen. John Kerry. A second source said Veal, who lived in Athens, Ga., and worked for the University of Georgia, was also adamantly opposed to the war in Iraq.

More than three years after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Ground Zero remains a top tourist attraction, the site rife with symbolism.

Visitors there yesterday reacted in different ways to news of Veal's suicide. Bobbie Jensen, 54, a Republican from Phoenix, said that while she understood how Bush's victory disturbed those who dislike him, Ground Zero is not the place to act on those emotions.

"You can be upset about the war, about Bush, but this is a sacred place," she said. "You got to accept what happened and not kill yourself." But Frank Franca, an East Village artist and registered Democrat, suggested the suicide was symbolic.

"I'm very moved by it," he said. "Obviously, this person was devastated. I can see why he would come here."

Franca's friend, Jeffim Kuznetsov, a 25-year-old student from Russia who lives in Atlanta, said the suicide is evidence of how deeply many Americans were affected by Kerry's defeat.

"It's a national tragedy," he said. "This election is devastating to all who believe in democracy."

Another visitor to Ground Zero, Arushi Raval, 34, a businesswoman who lives in Chelsea, said Veal might have been active in campaigning for Kerry, only to taste defeat.

"Maybe he felt ineffective," she said of the victim. "You feel ineffective if you tried and it all failed.

"I know so many New Yorkers who are depressed over this."

Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.


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PostPosted: 07 Nov 2004, 05:55 
".12-gauge shotgun"

WTF is that?

LOL.

A 12 gauge shotgon is .76 caliber.

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Holy crap, this guy wrote for our school newspaper! He was definitely to the far left. Sad that he went and did this. Oh well.

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I sware the more I read about the dems, especially the far left you would think the world is comming to an end.

We all lived through two clinton administrations and kept our heads attached.


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I'm sure he was anti-gun, too. If you banned guns, people wouldn't commit suicide, now, would they? If only they'd had a 365-day waiting period to buy a shotgun, it could have saved him. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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"I'm sure he was anti-gun, too. If you banned guns, people wouldn't commit suicide, now, would they?"

Of course they would, but they would be finding much more creative ways to do it, like falling down on an ice pick 6 or 7 times or maybe even a trip to the gallows! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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HE WAS PISSED-OFF THAT ALL THESE RICH,RELIGIOUS,RIGHTWING REPUBLICANS WANT TO DICTATE HIS LIFE ETC......

NOW DO I BELIEVE ALL REPUBLICANS ARE RICH AND FAR RIGHT AND RELIGOUS?
NO!
DO I BELIEVE ALL REPUBLICANS ARE PRO-LIFE?
NO
DO I THINK ALL REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP FREEDOMS,SUCH AS,MEDICAL RECORDS,PHONE RECORDS,TRACKING YOUR MOVEMENTS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT CAUSE OR WARRANT AS IN PARTS OF THE PATROIT ACT AND AN AMERICAN CAN BE HELD WITHOUT LAWYER REPERSENTING THEM OR EVEN THEIR FAMILY NOTIFIED WHERE AND WHAT THER ACCUSED OF TO FIGHT TERROR?
NO!

JUST LIKE ARE ALL DEMOCRATES PRO-CHOICE ?
NO!
ALL DEMOCRATES ANTI-GUN?
NO!
ALL DEMOCRATES SAY THE WAR IS WRONG?
NO!
ARE ALL DEMOCRATES LEFT WING NUT JOBS?
NO!

SO HERES THE DEAL,THE COUNTRY IS SPLIT,I DONT CARE WHAT THE MAP SAYS,I WOULD SAY WINNING BY A 3,500,000 VOTES OUT OF 120,000,000 CASTED AINT A WIDE VICTORY.
AND SURE BUSH WON POPULAR VOTE BY THE MOST VOTES EVER,THIS IS THE MOST AMERICANS EVER TO VOTE. SO IT WOULD BE REASONABLE THAT THE VOTE COUNT WOULD BE HIGHER.
WITH ATTITUDES LIKE THIS AND LABELING ONE PARTY OR ANOTHER THIS COUNTRY WILL NEVER BE WHOLE,ITS TIME TO JOIN TOGETHER,BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE.
I'M PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRATE JUST LIKE MY GRANDFATHER,HE FOUGHT 3 YRS IN WW2 IN THE PACIFIC AND WAS A NRA MEMBER FOR 30YRS PLUS,PLUS HE WAS A 35 YR UAW MEMBER.HE WAS A GOD FEARING MAN AND LOVED THIS COUNTRY.
I WAS HONORED THAT THE HONOR GUARD LET ME PRESENT MY GRANDMOTHER WITH HIS FLAG.I WAS STILL WEARING BLUE THAN.
YOU GOING TO LABEL HIM OR MILLIONS LIKE HIM A"LEFTWING LIBERAL NUT JOB"BECAUSE HE WAS A DEMOCRATE?
I DONT THINK SO

THATS MY THINKING ON THIS "OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY TUDE"

MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP.

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"ITS TIME TO JOIN TOGETHER,BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE TO MEET IN THE MIDDLE."

That's what I kept telling her, but the cute little gal with the Kerry-Edwards sign just wouldn't open up to the points I was pushing for.

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"This election is devastating to all who believe in democracy."
How the hell was it a bad day for democracy when more voters turned out to vote than ever before in an American election.<img src=newicons/tard.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/tard.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Sadly, this man was mentaly ill. It really does not say anything political, does it? Let's see. The democratic party is the party of the mentally ill and self destructive. Not. The man probably has had a crappy life and somehow deluded himself that Bush is the reason. It was probably his mother-in-law that drove him nuts, and Kerry wouldn't have fixed that.

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My thoughts exactly A10Stress. Although I have to say to those that want to leave the country because of the election......dont let the border hit you in the ass on the way out!

"face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!"

Edited by - m&m on Nov 08 2004 09:21 AM


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THOSE TWO "BABBS AND BLADWIN DIDNT LEAVE LAST TIME,BUT DID YOU EVER WONDER WHO WOULD TAKE THEM?

THE MAN WAS MENTALLY ILL BIG TIME!,EVERONE HAS A BREAKING POINT,PEOPLE ARE ON RECORD FOR KILLING THEMSELFS OVER FOOTBALL GAMES.

I WOULD AGREE STRESS"IN-LAWS" COULD DRIVE YOU TO IT,BUT I RATHER BE A PAIN IN THEIR ASS!

MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP.

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