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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2004, 01:05 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Co...1_16_04_JK.html

November 16, 2004
'A Fundamental Disagreement' Over More Than Iraq
By Senator Jon Kyl

Just before Iraqi and coalition troops launched the long-awaited battle to retake the city of Fallujah from lawless insurgents, United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan issued a letter that, as the Los Angeles Times put it, illustrates "a fundamental disagreement between the U.S.-led coalition and the U.N. about how best to bring stability to Iraq." It goes to the heart of the larger question of the post-9/11 world: how civilized societies should confront the reality of a large, international network of radical Islamists whose goal is our annihilation and whose principal tool is terrorism.

This great conflict is tragic and frightening, but not altogether without precedent. Adolph Hitler's vision of Nazi domination presented to European leaders in the 1930s a similar choice between aggressive confrontation and appeasement, provoking a debate with eerie similarities to today's.

Under normal circumstances, of course, peace is the heartfelt desire of all honorable men and women who seek only to live in freedom and in harmony with their neighbors. But as Hitler proved, sometimes accommodation is not an option. Or, as Tolstoy put it, "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."

President Bush and his allies in Congress and abroad have looked squarely into the eyes of radical Islamic fundamentalists and arrived at the measured conclusion that, ultimately, there can be no compromise between our way of life and theirs. Given the stated desire of groups such as al Qaeda to impose universal sharia, or traditional Islamic law, and to slaughter those who object - not to mention their demonstrated willingness to commit suicide in the process - there is simply no 'middle ground.'

Unfortunately, as in the years before World War II, there are those who will go to great lengths to avoid confronting such unpleasant realities. Which brings us back to Kofi Annan's letter, addressed to President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and interim Iraqi leader Ayad Allawi.

In it, Annan voiced his increasing concern at the "prospect of an escalation in violence," particularly the reports of major military offensives being planned for Falluja. "Ultimately," Annan argued, "the problem of insecurity can only be addressed through dialogue and an inclusive political process."

It boggles the mind that a world leader could display such naivete in the face of efforts by thousands of insurgents and foreign fighters to terrorize and impose a Taliban-style rule in Fallujah, complete with summary executions. Reaction from those on the ground was swift and angry. "I don't know what pressure he has to bear on the insurgents," Allawi said in an interview with the BBC. "If he can stop [them] from inflicting damage and killing Iraqis, then he's welcome." Later, Allawi responded formally to Annan, in a letter so forceful it merits an extended excerpt:

You suggested that the prospect of an escalation in violence could be very disruptive to Iraq's political transition. I share this view. But I believe that this argues for taking firm steps now to tackle the violence we face today. Unchecked, this violence will escalate... At the moment, we have parts of the country in which the civilian population has been hijacked by the terrorists and insurgents operating from places like Fallujah [who] are exporting their violence to other parts of the country.


I was a little surprised by the lack of any mention in your letter of the atrocities which these groups have committed. ... The same group who murdered so many of your staff in the bombing of the UN headquarters last year, has since murdered hundreds of innocent Iraqis and committed countless other atrocities.


I share your strong preference for a political solution over military confrontation. But I did not find in your letter a new plan or a new strategy beyond this strong preference. Essentially, the violent groups have rejected the rule-of-law, without which there can be no democracy. I am not prepared to allow these groups a veto over democracy in Iraq, nor to continue to terrorize the vast majority of Iraqis who want to live in peace and freedom.

The conclusion is unavoidable that, in the words of the Heritage Foundation, "While Iraqis are dying in large numbers at the hands of Al-Qaeda backed foreign fighters and former Baathists, the UN leader's chief concern appears to be the need to negotiate with the insurgents and open 'a new chapter of inclusiveness and national reconciliation.' Annan's letter will give aid and comfort to some of the most barbaric terrorists of modern times."

This is particularly galling given the massive scandal over the UN-administered Oil-for-Food program, and the Security Council's utter failure to deal with Saddam Hussein's tyrannical regime and his flouting of endless UN resolutions, its lack of leadership in disarming Iran, and its paralysis in the face of genocide in the Sudan. Worse, the US government has repeatedly asked the United Nations to provide more experts to help prepare for Iraq's January elections, but Annan - who apparently has no sense of irony - has limited the staff in Iraq to 35 until they can be guaranteed better protection.

Last week, the State Department announced that the nation of Georgia would send 691 troops to Iraq as part of a special UN security force. Tiny Fiji has committed another 170 troops to protect UN workers and facilities. One hopes that the leader of the so-called "world body" can take heart from the bravery of these small, poor nations and decide that it's time to play a role in Iraq that does more good than harm.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.


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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2004, 10:23 
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The U.N. has become a condom on the penis of democratic progress throughout the world and is as impotent as an 80 year-old man without Viagara.

Kofi Annan <pa-tooey> seems to be saying, "Group hug and high fives everyone, violence only brings more violence."

Instead, I would prefer to kill the fuckers inciting the violence with extreme prejudice and send a message to those that are like them.

Hey, I have an idea, why don't we rename the United Nations and call it the League of Nations?

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I think they're probably afraid that if they show any backbone someone will target their pretty little building. And it's tougher to be blamed for doing something wrong, if you're not doing anything at all.<img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle>

So, you have trouble. We all have trouble. Build a bridge and get over it.

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I'd rather rename the United Nations and call it a parking garage.

Brainwashing couldn't get the tough stains out.


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TIME TO CLOSE THE LEASE AND KICK'EM OUT OF NEWYORK!,I'M SURE THERE'S A PLACE IN LETS SAY"SYRIA" FOR THEM TO BULID A NEW HEADQUARTERS.
AND REALLY WHY DO YOU NEED A BULIDING?
TELECOM HAS CAME A LONG WAY THEY CAN STAY HOME AND VIDEO CONFERANCE.

THIS ONE WORLDISM HAS TO GO! AND THE US BETTER WAKE THE F#$@ UP!
TRADE POLICIES ARE BAD,WE'RE GETTING SCREWED BY THE PRC AND I READ LAST WEEK THAT THIS COUNTRY,WHICH HAS AN OVER ABUDANCE OF FOOD IS IN DEBT 800 MILLION DOLLARS IN FORGEIN FOOD SHIPPED HERE!
WE IMPORT 2X MORE THEN WE EXPORT OUR GRAIN AND OTHER AG PRODUCTS.
THAT IS PRETTY "STRANGE"IMPORTING CRAP WE HAVE TONS OF ALREADY.
I BETTER GET OFF MY BOX NOW,I'M TOO DAMN TRIED ALREADY.

MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP.

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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2004, 15:31 
Agree with all of the above.

The UN is about as useful as a wet fart in a space suit.

"Molon labe".
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Thermopylae, 480 B.C.


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