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There's 2 of them somewhere, 80-0188 assigned to the 76th when I was there and 79-9188 with one of the other Squadrons.
I have a picture of 80-0188 sitting on the ramp at EAFB about early 86.

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There's 2 of them somewhere, 80-0188 assigned to the 76th when I was there and 79-9188 with one of the other Squadrons.
I have a picture of 80-0188 sitting on the ramp at EAFB about early 86.

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77-0188 AMARC, 79-0188 DM, 80-0188 KC

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There you go, They can Trade an Airframe for the FlagShip birds.

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There you go, They can Trade an Airframe for the FlagShip birds.

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The just did it for a KC-135. The 100th ARWin England. So I don;t see why they wouldn't/couldn't for them.

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Last year (when I was still a '38 IP at Vance) I had my TARF Refresher (altitiude chamber) with a whole gaggle of Fort Smith guys. They had recently found out that they were converting and just about all of them were ticked...

ATTACK!!!!!!!

HawgWild,
I hope you become a mediocre unit like Battle Creek. They will need to be replaced since they are loosing their Hawgs. Hopefully you'll be mediocre by consistantly having the highest FMC Rate in the Guard A-10 Fleet. Maybe you'll run circles around those units who've had the A-10's for 30 years like BC has done. Maybe you'll be called on to be the second unit (to BC) in ANG History to be the lead unit in 2 contigiency deployments within 2 months (OSW and OIF). I don't recall hearing much of those really great A-10 units during OIF.
Maybe one of those great lead units will send maintenance leadership to your base (like the 175th did)to find out how you are consistantly rolling aircraft out of Phase 4 weeks quicker than thay are with Code 1 FCF's and having the finest maintenance quality in the Guard Fleet (and we know the condition of the Guard Fleet vs. AD).
HawgWild, if you have good work ethic within your unit, you'll do fine. I does take a few years to learn the idiosyncrasies of the A-10, but if you bring in some experience or ask the right questions to the right people, you too can become the best. Just remember, the A-10 is much more labor intensive mechanically so be ready for that. Good Luck in the New Era!

I think its about to get Hot in Here.



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Cheesehead, I'll have to stand with Coach on this one. It's not my intention to pick your post apart with one exception; the OIF statement was neither fair nor accurate. This is not the forum to discuss why you didn't hear a lot about those units during OIF but I'll tell you they were there, they played and they played hard.

Mediocrity was the topic and it remains so. Phase times can be meaningless depending on the product that rolls out the door. FMC rates are nothing but a number that, like any number, can be manipulated and anyone that's been around for a while can do it. I don't think anyone questioned maintenance practices but rather whether or not the unit actively and aggresively pursues things that, with some forward thinking, can be adapted. As an example, look on station 9. That's a direct result of units being leaders, not followers. There are other things going on with this airframe that I think in six months time will impress a lot of people including LockMart, who will be left scrambling to figure out how to get the same capability out of their multi million dollar PE jets. Sorry to be cryptic but this is a public forum.

Ft Smith, I'll re-emphasize my previous statement. This is an opportunity to stand out. Unlike the Viper world, the world of the Hawg is small. Carpe Diem Arkansas, don't let it pass you by.

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Cheesehead, I'll have to stand with Coach on this one. It's not my intention to pick your post apart with one exception; the OIF statement was neither fair nor accurate. This is not the forum to discuss why you didn't hear a lot about those units during OIF but I'll tell you they were there, they played and they played hard.

Mediocrity was the topic and it remains so. Phase times can be meaningless depending on the product that rolls out the door. FMC rates are nothing but a number that, like any number, can be manipulated and anyone that's been around for a while can do it. I don't think anyone questioned maintenance practices but rather whether or not the unit actively and aggresively pursues things that, with some forward thinking, can be adapted. As an example, look on station 9. That's a direct result of units being leaders, not followers. There are other things going on with this airframe that I think in six months time will impress a lot of people including LockMart, who will be left scrambling to figure out how to get the same capability out of their multi million dollar PE jets. Sorry to be cryptic but this is a public forum.

Ft Smith, I'll re-emphasize my previous statement. This is an opportunity to stand out. Unlike the Viper world, the world of the Hawg is small. Carpe Diem Arkansas, don't let it pass you by.

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I think Kungfu and I have a few things to add, but I think it would be in our best interest to probably leave this off the forum. I really hate to get Mr. Cheesehead all fired up and spout off anymore senseless BS.

"I don't recall hearing much of those really great A-10 units during OIF."

Cheesehead - I seem to remember seeing a coalition of A-10's sitting on the ramp during OIF.

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Cheeseball I am going to stay way out of this conversation from here on out because I have been where you are at this point in a thread, and let me tell you I paid dearly. I believe it was right after I got back from OIF and the thread was about the Litening II pod. Anyhoo I just want to remind you that yeah maybe you were the lead unit twice in less than a few months, but if I remember correctly it was only after you werent the lead unit in Trapani because one of those other units that you "ran circles around" was the lead unit.
I am officialy out of this thread.

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I give "KUDO'S " to you Guys response to Cheesehead's thread,

Cheesehead
just a friendly reminder, We're all or have been in it at one time or another and after awhile it doesnt matter its
We all got the chance to serve in one of the Best Families in the USAF THE A-10 FAMILY
Everyone did an outstanding job no matter who was the lead.

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F-16's dont count


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I find it interesting that this thread turned on Cheesehead, only for standing up for his unit after it was attacked w/ the past (Several years past). His remarks were accurate on his unit's MX...ask the 422/Wed School what they think of the ANG Birds and MX that is working with them right now for the PE conversion. He also has reason to be proud of their recent combat history in which they did stand out w/ the FOL during OIF (yes, many joined in the effort and were vital...but it was their leadership that brought everyone together to make it happen).

Some accurate comments were made about lead units and how many have done great things for the A-10 (especially those that got us in the fight w/ the TGP). I just recommend that if you choose to slam other units (BC/Boise for example) it might be a good idea to look at the last 5 years vs the previous 5-10 before commenting...especially if you make the issues should as though they are still on going.

As sgtgoose1 said: "just a friendly reminder, We're all or have been in it at one time or another and after awhile it doesnt matter its
We all got the chance to serve in one of the Best Families in the USAF THE A-10 FAMILY
Everyone did an outstanding job no matter who was the lead."

Though that should apply across the bourd.
In Coaches words "(Sorry if I have pissed anyone off with this one, but it's my opinion)"...only perhaps a bit more historicly recent.


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Same is true for this site, of course.

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Thanks Sniper, I've been watching the board and observing.

We have (3) A-10s playing with us this week with the TST exercise along with other units. It is great to watch the 10's fly and then taxi in and out of our ramp.

I had to depart work a little early a couple of days ago and our range is on my way home and while driving on the highway I was able to watch some of the the A-10's doing there thing.

Sometimes when teams come to our site to do specific 3E9 training with me I'll take them out to do some land nav-GPS training at the Range and to watch the show, Usually the 16's will come in first then the 10's.

It is always a show-Good Stuff-!!!!!

Hawg Wild
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I bet it is!

I saw a couple live-fire demos during range details back when i was a grunt at the tail end of the Cold War. The A-10 was and is one seriously badass machine, a Grunts best friend- and that's straight from the horse's mouth!

You guys all have my respect and admiration, and the respect and admiration of all our Grunts.

Keep on Keepin' on troops!

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Wow, the tusks are out. I appologize if I (unintentionally)insulted any A-10 units out there. My intent was to defend the honor of 2 units that were needlessly slammed in this forum for their leadership and capablity. I called no one silly names and I realize that every Hawg unit does what it takes and does it well. My point was that the new guys shouldn't have been slammed and have proved themselves over and over again. I'm finished with this thread. Thanks! "Cheesball"<img src=newicons/anim_bow.gif border=0 align=middle>

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PS: Welcome aboard WT to gasman and barfly.

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The rotten thing about BRAC is the pure politics of it. Word was that BRAC was going to try to save money by not leasing property and utilizing DOD property. Well, I have been at Willow Grove as a crew chief full time for 16 years and it is DOD owned and they whacked us. Barnes gets F-15's and gets bigger???? are they not on leased land?? Good for them honestly but it is just plain dirty politics. A unit like ours with dedicated, experienced A-10 people gets shut down and a unit in Arkansas loses there aircraft and gets handed A-10's. I fail to see the sense. One could debate it for days, it just sucks that I will have to uproot my family and move somewhere if I am lucky enough to catch on with another unit. Not a big market around Philly for a 20 year A-10 crew chief.

Hey there fella, i'm in Philly too. Been up to Willowgrove a few times to check out the Hogs, shame you weren't posting here then, coulda got to meet ya.

At any rate, welcome aboard, and thanx for your service!

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<b>BRAC DOES SUCK and alot of you Guys are getting STUCK SUCKING HIND TIT ON A HOG!</b>

It is truely political.
Prime example Fender will probably agree too, look at England AFB and Mrytle Beach.
2 great A-10 wings 6 squadrons goto the Box "RACK UP A GREAT RECORD"
and come home to the "AXE"
Along with the UK guys too.

Almost 2/3 rds of the folks were either
A. put into their 2nd AFSC's
B. ended-up on NEW AIRFRAMES
C. GOT OUT.

Only a Few went to POPE.

So yes I agree it "SUCKS" and all that experiance going to waste.

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HawgWild,

any idea what kind of tail art the Hawgs will get when operating from Ft. Smith ?

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