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I like both the myth the Avenger can stall-out the aircraft and the one courtesy Jane’s where the engines are jettison able. What’s the best one you’ve heard?

Tied) Jettisonable engines and the gun slows down the jet when fired
2nd) Terrain following autopilot.

My fave myth (or maybe it was true!?) was concerning one of the Hogs famous former haunts rather than the aircraft itself.
It was once claimed that the 'twinbases' of RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge were linked by a long taxiway.........I recall a few trips up there for airshows etc and never stumbled upon it or remember the terrain making it feasible.
I read it in one of the early A-10 books.
In theory, it sounded like a good idea, but I'm pretty sure the claim was a load of old bollocks.
Anyone else hear of it?

I like the exploding engine bolts.

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YGBSM !

The myth that there was more than 1 two seater never seems to die.

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Gravity's not just a good idea.......its the LAW!

The myth that if the 30mm rounds are dropped from a height of more than 12\", they'll go off when they hit the ground because they are precussion primed.

What the myth never included was that since the projectile is so heavy, it is impossible for the shell to fall on the primer from more than 12\". It always lands on it's side, or on the projectile itself.

Once when loading with the ALS, our shift supervisor, a rookie to the field, was standing right by the loading gate when the upload chute gave way and launched 6 shells up and out of the chute. All 6 landed right at his feet. He was white as a sheet for the next hour.

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Violence may not be the best option, but it IS an option

did a Hog actually land on the autobahn or some highway in europe? i could swear i saw some caption on a picture, but no story has gone with it.

the gun slowing the plane is still #1

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1. jettisonable engines
2. Firehawg the fire fighter
3. New engines for the A-10

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Faugh ah Ballaugh ~ Clear the Way

Hehe forgot about that one.

Yes they did, more than one, I have a couple of pictures if I can find them.

About that highway landing, I thought they did that in Germany.

My favourite myth or is it real: When the gun shoot to much bullets or to long, the plane will fly into the other way. Backwards (I write this word good?).

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Dutchy,
That is the same myth as mentioned before, about the jet slowing down when the gun is fired. There is actually an old thread around here that discusses the \"physics\" as well as real drivers' experience... firing the gone does not slow down, stop, stall, or move the aircraft backwards. It is a good myth, though.

I never have heard Ice Pirate's myth, though. I have seen quite a few rounds (TP, and HEI) fall from the chutes before and never seen one go off, though.

--Raven

TheLastRaven, sorry but it slipped me that message from Ice Pirate . But if I come back on the topic question: \"what is your favourite myth\" than I have the same as him. It was one of the first things I heard, since mine intrest in the A-10.
Maybe a good idea for a myth update? And do we have to call the mythbusters for this?

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I heard something like:

\"This plane saved us when I was in the ´Nam!!!\"

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\"My name's Pitt, and you ain't talkin' your ass outta this shit.\"

I completely forgot to post my favorite \"myth\". I while back we had an \"inadvertent release\" of a LUU-2 Battlefield Illumination Flare over a populated area. It drew some significant media attention, which included some UFO reports. The local news, within hours, had already repeatedly stated it was an A-10 involved. During the airshow a few months later, a friend of mine was standing with our static display, which is our ground trainer and has been grounded since 1992 (I believe), when a civillian came by and said that that was the EXACT jet that lost the flare. He swore he could see the tail number on the nose (the trainer and the tail involved are very different, even if the tail number HAD been visible from the ground) and he swore the jet had a chrome muzzle. My buddy, a very experienced SSgt 7-level, said the guyw as so adamant about it, that even he almost eblieved the guy!

--Raven

What he really saw was the nose number on the tail. No wonder he was wrong.

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I personally like the one where we used \"napalm\" and \"Hell fire missiles\" on the A-10 during Desert Storm let alone Anytime I can remember being on the Hog.,

The other one was the \"Peanut Camo A-10\" was deployed during Desert Storm\"

Or the model kits showing 6 GBU's loaded on the A-10.

Very few Model kits are right what so ever.

Goose

OH! I just remembered another one. This one I heard from my 7-level school instructor. He was sure of it, and I was like ummm, no.
He said that the A-10 used to have a parachute behind F-59 (the tailcone). This way if the pilot ever lost conciousness, the parachute would pop out and the plane float down safely. I swear to god, not only did he say this, but he believed it.

HAHAHA. I went to the airshow to take some pics for Lil Hitler and remember stopping at the A-10. I was in Korea same time as one of the guys in front of it, and we were just BSing, and I looked at the jet for a second and said hey, its missing an engine latch. Then I actually paid attention to it and saw all the other stuff - no bug-eyes, grey struts, no uarrsi, old taxi light bracket, missign screws all over, tons of stuff, and me and the other guy I was with were like, oh, this HAS to be the WLT jet. Well, I guess civilians won't know the difference.

Sorry about this boys, but I have a (rookie?) question.

I was under the impression that while the gun won't STOP the aircraft, that it does slow it down slightly. I remember seeing a video clip taken inside the cockpit of a Hawg Driver firing it, then letting up. When he hit the trigger, his body leaned forward a little, like you would in a car when hitting the brakes, and as soon as he let up, he sat back a little. In fact that very clip is in the \"Kickstart My Heart\" video I made.
By the sounds of the above posts, you are saying there is no speed effect whatsoever when firing?

Again, sorry if this is too \"rookie\" of a question, just wanting to have my facts straight.

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\"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8/A at your side, kid.\"--Hawg Solo

Hogdog, we are not saying the gun has no effect on the airspeed of the aircraft, the recoll is app = to one engine but, what we are saying is the aircraft doesn't carry enough ammo to \"stall the aircraft out\" like a lot of people think.

I know a test pilot who fired the gun a few times in 6-7 second bursts (about half the drum load) and he didn't notice a slow-down of the aircraft. He said you could see the aircraft slow down in the chase plane footage but, it was not that noticeable in the cockpit.

I guess what it comes down to is yea, the Avenger could stall the aircraft if, it was fired for long enough with very low airspeed, in a clime with very low airspeed, or if you were flying on just one engine at the time you fired it.

There were actually 2...

Do you have anything to back this statement up...a picture maybe?

And as this proves that some myths will never die...this has been an ongoing question for this board for as long as I can remember...it always pops up every year or so....maybe someday we'll have a definite answer...

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Here we go....