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PostPosted: 15 Feb 2007, 19:19 
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Definatly the jettisonable engines lol


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What the myth never included was that since the projectile is so heavy, it is impossible for the shell to fall on the primer from more than 12\". It always lands on it's side, or on the projectile itself.


IP, you just need to spin stabilize it when you drop it lol.

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Thanks Dice, that's kinda what I figured, but some of the previous posters made it sound like there was NO effect at all. :wink:

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This should put the whole two NAWS thing to rest:
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Oh Man :roll: , Boomer you leaking another one of your

\" TOP SECRET PICTURES? \" :wink: this could re-write the entire A-10 HISTORY!
[shock] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

How long before this gets plastered all over the web?

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I have to go by what A10stress told me a while back.....unless there was another team in a different building one on a seperate shift.......\"there was only one\"

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along with Dice's research there was only \"1\" 2 seater built., and with Stress being at Ground Zero then thats all the proof we need to put this subject to rest.

We all wish the USAF would of bought the 2 seater , it sure would of been nice to get 1 ride in one, and the fight for those rides would of been intense .
but the Simulator is the closest most of us will ever get.

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Great pic Boomer, that almost looks fake. [lol]

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I looked to the picture, see that is made by a guy with a Dutch name.
Not a friend of me, because I will correct this fellow.

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My all time favourite is the myth that the GAU-8 puts so much reaction gas into the airflow around the aircraft that it will deprive the engines of oxygen, causing a flame out if fired for periods longer than 2 seconds.

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My all time favourite is the myth that the GAU-8 puts so much reaction gas into the airflow around the aircraft that it will deprive the engines of oxygen, causing a flame out if fired for periods longer than 2 seconds.


Well this is not really a myth. The GAU-8A can cause a(n) engine flame-out from the gasses it produces. That's the reason the engine igniters fire during gun operation and the reason "we" have to wash the engines after so many firings of the gun because the "gunk" build-up drops the engine RPMS.

Gun gas is a major issue on the A-10 and must be keep-up on at all times.


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GAU-8 gets coolness +1, it just sounds like a monster gun by now!

I can already see migs flying *behind* an A-10 dropping dead because all the engines choke. Maybe that makes a better myth because this actually isn't true... I should go post it on random forums muhahaha

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My all time favourite is the myth that the GAU-8 puts so much reaction gas into the airflow around the aircraft that it will deprive the engines of oxygen, causing a flame out if fired for periods longer than 2 seconds.


Well this is not really a myth. The GAU-8A can cause a(n) engine flame-out from the gasses it produces. That's the reason the engine igniters fire during gun operation and the reason "we" have to wash the engines after so many firings of the gun because the "gunk" build-up drops the engine RPMS.

Gun gas is a major issue on the A-10 and must be keep-up on at all times.


Hey Dice, didn't they come out with a new fangled barrel clamp that was supposed to channel most of the smoke and fumes from the gun muzzles under the fuselauge during firing? I know I seen pics of them before, but on more current pics they seem to have been dropped for the old origional barrel clamp. Did they not performe well enough?

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Yes they did but the damn thing caused more problems than it solved. The gun was never designed to operate with an 80 pound “coke bottle” stuck on the end. The mod only lasted a couple of years because it caused major vibration on the low setting and cracks on the main gun mounts among other issues.

The gun gas problem has been solved (as best we can) with newer gun power in the rounds (better burning), engine washing, and a couple of other minor fixes with makes the gas manageable.


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I am pretty late getting back on this thread, but I got that \"I remember when one of these old girls saved my ass in the 'Nam \" speeches about two years back. It was an interesting story. I dont think I stopped the old drunk, I just shook my head and said \"Dude I have so heard that story, I think that was one of our pilots\".

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Thanks for the info Dice. I had no idea that the thing was that heavy.

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Yes they did but the damn thing caused more problems than it solved. The gun was never designed to operate with an 80 pound “coke bottle” stuck on the end. The mod only lasted a couple of years because it caused major vibration on the low setting and cracks on the main gun mounts among other issues.

The gun gas problem has been solved (as best we can) with newer gun power in the rounds (better burning), engine washing, and a couple of other minor fixes with makes the gas manageable.


Don't know it it's still there but when I went though tech school in 94/95 one of the training A-10s had the diverter on her still...crazy looking thing...

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Yes they did but the damn thing caused more problems than it solved. The gun was never designed to operate with an 80 pound “coke bottle” stuck on the end. The mod only lasted a couple of years because it caused major vibration on the low setting and cracks on the main gun mounts among other issues.

The gun gas problem has been solved (as best we can) with newer gun power in the rounds (better burning), engine washing, and a couple of other minor fixes with makes the gas manageable.


Don't know it it's still there but when I went though tech school in 94/95 one of the training A-10s had the diverter on her still...crazy looking thing...


Dont know if its just me or not, but I ran into that damn diverter a few times!
You get used to your jet and your distances and stuff, put that stupid thing on the bird and always forgot it was there popping out from the nose well or walking around the front!

My best "bites" are still the ones I got from Transient and working the F-4's. Man I have more Phantom bites than I care to remember! Thankfully they were never bad enough to require medical as some I have seen!


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HogSnort, I know what you mean. When I first started crewing a LARS jet it took me some time to get used to those extra antennas.

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I have some pictures of a diverter around here somewhere...starts looking through boxes.... 8)


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Diverted, you mean the \"Salad Shooter\" dont you? :lol: that stupid looking thing.
I rathered they had kept the \"Mattel Ladders\".

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Don't know it it's still there but when I went though tech school in 94/95 one of the training A-10s had the diverter on her still...crazy looking thing...

I don't remember it being there, but WTF did I know, I was a brand new 1-level at the time. The subject of the diverter came up at work about a week ago, and one of the newer guys in the flight said it was on the jet at Sheppard (he was at Sheppard until early 06).


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I rathered they had kept the \"Mattel Ladders\".



Were they the ladders fitted on the last twenty Hogs? Black in colour.
There have been 3 types of ladder fitted on the Hog.

The gun gas diverter was called the 'batelle'.


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Yep BB,

Those were on the 82 model jets if I remember right, I just remember when I first got EAFB and assigned to 2653 as an ACC for those early days it had a Mattel Ladder, then some of the others had square and then the Round ones that are the ones you see now.
I just remember when they started replacing all the \"Non round\" some of them were a real \" [cuss] [mad] [angry] to get to work and the retaining bolt had to be changed on some.

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When I was loading at DM they were all the square ladders. The ladder never bothered me much. It was that DAMNED DOOR that'd always manage to catch the wind just as I'd bring my left foot down and the top edge would gouge into my shin. I still carry a perminent divot in my left shin from that.

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