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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2004, 20:16 
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Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes * (see note below)

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.
The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete
with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and
answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels
of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all
Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you
give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he
replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All
followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your
faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command
to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the
cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine
Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat
Robertson or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go
to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and
your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you
a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in
order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am
going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me these 20
years of prison ministry.
He said to me, "Rick, remember that the truth will prevail." And it
will!

* Senders words: I think everyone in the US should be required to
read this. The author, Rick Mathes, is a well known prison ministry leader.



Silly Saddam, Holes are for rabbits! - joe P.


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Incompetance by somebody...either that Imam or the fabricator of this story never heard the saying "people of the book"?

Nevermind what the Muslims in Palestine and central Egypt might say. But Jews (and Christians) aren't the natural enemies of Islam. Also disregard all the praising and worship the Palestinian leaders give to Hitler.

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Edited by - Lunatock on Jan 28 2004 08:32 AM

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People of the book goes back to the Ottoman period and the Laws of Omar which state that Jews and Christians shouldn't be hated and should be treated equally, as long as certain taxes were levied upon them, including a "protection fee" per person per household. Jews and Christians were often persecuted, but also reached high positions in Ottoman Emperor's courts.

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People of the book goes back to the Ottoman period and the Laws of Omar which state that Jews and Christians shouldn't be hated and should be treated equally, as long as certain taxes were levied upon them, including a "protection fee" per person per household. Jews and Christians were often persecuted, but also reached high positions in Ottoman Emperor's courts.

"Retreat, hell! We just got here!"-Captain Lloyd Williams, 2nd Marine Division, Belleau Wood, France, WWI
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Good idea to capitalise on. Certainly better than how some Arab leaders decided Hitler was the man to follow, and sped up the Middle East's downward spiral.

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