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BTW- how's the wife during and how far alone is she?
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6.5 months now, just a few more weeks to pickle. Hopefully after we get back from snowbird. Thanks for askin'.

At an air show in Anchorage a few years back I had some pretty good ones:

We had parked the Hawg next to an Eagle and one lady came up pointed at the Eagle and then the Hawg and asked, "So, what's the difference between these two?"

Another lady insisted that with all those guages and weapons that there must be a WSO somewhere and wanted to know where in the jet the WSO's spot was located. It seriously took us 5 minutes to convince her that we did all that stuff ourselves.

Finally, one guy came up and said, "So, what's it like to fly the Hornet?" I simply said, "I'm not quite sure since I've never flown one before" as I pointed to the Hornet parked a quarter mile down the ramp.

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I was at an airshow in Ft. Worth in 2002 when a person (probably about 35 years old) came up to swearing up and down that the pitot tube out on the right wing was actually a top secret laser. I probably spent about 5-10 minutes talking to guy about other stuff when the laser subject came back up again. After another few minutes of him insisting that it's a laser, I gave in and told him he was right. Sure enough, he started jumping up and down yelling "I knew it!!!!!"

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LOL, it's NOT a laser?

Damn...i'm bummed.

Hehehehehehe.

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That is the bad thing about doing airshows, you have to be 'tactful' and professional. Dont you just want to say "look here dumb a$$, I am the opne that works on these things, and you are who? <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

JB

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Odds are he's the dumbass that pays for it to begin with...

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ya I gueaa you are right, but since the military pays taxes we pay for it too. But that is the only thing I hated when doing airshows, yuo could spot 'Mr Knowitall' from a mile away, and they like never leave! We used to have a signal between us that is anyone got caught by one of these that the other would preform a SAR mission. However, this did not always work as our wingman sometimes got distracted by short shorts and ....well you know what I mean.

JB

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Well, I don't work on the hog, but get in many discussions about it at work, and had a guy ask me if the reason it had the main landing gear pods was "in the unlikely event of a water-landing" they would act as pontoons......... <img src=newicons/anim_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

High On The Hog

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They're like that so it can still land wheels up aren't they?



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That was my understanding of why they were like that. But I never knew if that was WHY they designed it that way, or just a bonus to having it designed that way.

High On The Hog

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I'm not sure if they meant it at the design stage either, the wheels retract forward so in the event of a gear failure they can be allowed to drop down and be locked into place by the airflow.......well thats what some book said, any pilot or crewchief able to confirm this?

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I'm not sure if they meant it at the design stage either, the wheels retract forward so in the event of a gear failure they can be allowed to drop down and be locked into place by the airflow.......well thats what some book said, any pilot or crewchief able to confirm this?
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I've been in a coupla aircraft other than the A-10 where I've had to do an alternate gear extension and none of them had forward-retracting wheels and they all worked just fine. I would imagine that the actual reason the gear are design the way they are is because there is no where else for the gear to go. There's weapons stations on either side and you obviously can't have them retract backwardsand still work without hydraulic power.

This aircraft is packed to the gills. If you retracted the gear into the belly, it would probably have a big humpback on it or something, making it even more beautiful!! <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

BTW, if you didn't know, the brakes are still functional with the gear up and will allow braking and directional steering if you did land gear up. If you haven't seen an A-10 land gear up, it is a sight to see, sitting on it's main gear and the tail.


Edited by - tinygiant on Jan 29 2004 05:33 AM

Here is a pic...I've got another one at home I'll post tonight (if I can find it, I've go so many A-10 pics on my hardrive)...

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There was a myth a few years back not about the Hog, but its former 'twinbases' at Bentwaters and Woodbridge in the UK.
The legend had it that the 2 bases were linked by a long taxi-way....the bases are only a few miles apart, I never saw it or stumbled across it.
I read it in one of the early A-10 books and it made me snigger at the time.

prkiii

That's a new one on me, I have never seen that picture before. Question is, is the a/c on its wheels or not?!? I would have to say yes as a landing would have torn off everything on those pylons (wouldn't it?).

B-Bits, wasn't there an exercise where the A-10's taxied from Woodbridge down the B-1084, up Hollesley Road then over on the A-1152 to Bentwaters? Of course not, as it never happened; but it sounds just as good as Skid Strip, the exercise where they would land on the autobahn in Germany...

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And before you think my memory of 20 years ago is so good I can remember street names, allow me to direct you to http://www.multimap.com...

Cheers! M2


Edited by - majormadmax on Jan 29 2004 08:25 AM

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prkiii

That's a new one on me, I have never seen that picture before. Question is, is the a/c on its wheels or not?!? I would have to say yes as a landing would have torn off everything on those pylons (wouldn't it?).


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That picture is from the 70th FS, I was already PCSed to Osan, but yeah, she mainly was on the two mavericks & bottom of the tails...I use two have a better pic & I'm gonna look tonight when I get home on my computer...

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After talking to some people pilots I came up with this explanation. In the event of a wheels up landing on a decent field or a prepared field, the wheels retracted forward will leave the aircraft in a tail low position. This will keep the gun barrels from digging into the tera firma resulting in a poll vaulting type maneuver. I dont know if its true, but I am just throwing it out.

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It wasn't easy to find...but here is the other pic...as you can see she landed on the mavs & tail....If I remember correctly they said she was up & flying again with like 4 or 5 days (but don't quote me, I wasn't there...)

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mmmax, I know the twinbases were linked with London by a long taxi-way.........its called the A-12<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

I remember 276 landing on its 'belly'. Yes it was up flying soon after that. I wont disclose 'why', but can you say "oops"

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WE HAD A HOG,CANT REMEMBER THE #. THE GUN HAD A HANG FIRE AND DAMAGED THE NOSE GEAR.
THE PILOT WAS GIVEN THE CHOICE EITHER TO BAIL-OUT OR COME IN WHEELS UP.
CHOOSE WHEELS UP BUT JETTISONED EVERYTHING HE COULD.
THEY FOAMED THE RUNWAY AT MID FIELD THINKING HE WOULDNT GO TO FAR.
THE HOG LANDED SHORT MID FIELD BLEW FOAM EVERYWHERE AND KEPT ON GOING ALL THE WAY TO EOR AND EVEN MANAGED TO TURN IT OFF THE TAXI WAY BY USING THE ENGINES.
IT WAS A "PRETTY LANDING". HARD TO BELIEVE HOW SMOOTH IT LANDED.

IF THE NOSE DOES GO OUT ON LANDING,IT WOULDNT BE GOOD. I HEARD FROM EYE WITNESS AT KKMC WHEN THAT HOG CAME IN AND CRASHED AT THE END OF THE 1ST GULFWAR.

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After talking to some people pilots I came up with this explanation. In the event of a wheels up landing on a decent field or a prepared field, the wheels retracted forward will leave the aircraft in a tail low position. This will keep the gun barrels from digging into the tera firma resulting in a poll vaulting type maneuver. I dont know if its true, but I am just throwing it out.

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson
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Hawg166, I guess that could be why it was designed like that. However, less than two years ago, we had an A-10 land and the nose gear collapsed on landing. The gun hit the ground and starting grinding away. There was no "pole-vaulting." When they got the plane up off the runway, the gun was ground down with damage limited to that area of the aircraft. Looked kind of like those mufflers you see dragging behind cars on the road that are ground flat.

We burried an airplane in a swamp up at Fort Drum a few years back. The jet went into an inverted dive from I believe 11,000 feet. The only thing left was the seven barrels sticking out of the rocks at side of swamp. My boss has some pictures. I saw them once. Maybe I will try to get them.

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

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