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TinyGiant- the voice of reason.

Personally, i thought 75% of officers were idiots, but i admit to being biased. There are a lot of idiots with command authority though.

I worked for a few of them.

"Trample the wounded, hurdle the dead."
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Heck, I think that greater than 50% of most of the people I encounter, officer or enlisted, are idiots in some way shape or form. Hell, I might even be in some people's views:) In my experience, the Army is one of the worst. Normally, I see an E-6, and I figure he has a number of years in. One E-6 I was working with that didn't seem the brightest crayon in the box, had only something like 6 or 7 years in. Promotions take much longer than that in the AF. Why? I don't know, but that's the way it is.

Type 7; former E-4

Was the guy a REMF or one of the Combat MOS's T7?

We had a guy that made E-5 in three and a half years, but he was the Bn CO's personal assistant. Real corporate type. I've no doubt he's a Sgt Major if he's still in, lol.

Most of the E-6's i knew had 8-12 years in. Our 2d Plt Sgt was a Vietnam Vet, Special Forces. This was back in 88-89.

But yeah, plenty of idiots in the enlisted ranks too.

"Trample the wounded, hurdle the dead."

Edited by - m21 sniper on Aug 11 2003 08:32 AM

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Was the guy a REMF or one of the Combat MOS's T7?

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The guy was assigned to Huachuca, and an MI REMF if I remember correctly.

Yeah, a lot of the corporate types that join the military end up as fast climbing REMFs, at least in the Army.

They just trade the suit for a (well pressed) uniform.

"Trample the wounded, hurdle the dead."

the only way to get promoted in a combat field is either what for the guy above u to die or retire, thats why i left for the af......i.e. no carrer progression.

Just out of curiosity, what era were you in the military, and what did you do?

To anyone who is in the know,
What primarily does air force intelligence divulge their priorities into?
What environments do they operate in?
Your opinion of this branch.

Here's my gripe: I go to the Air Force ROTC office to ask about officer training and they then direct me across town to an NCO recruiter; that appeared to me as the "blind leading the blind".
TJMO-ICBW
(That's just my opinion, I could be wrong)

Heh, gripe, would that happen to be just coincidence or was "gripe" a habit from the word commonly used for problems with an jet?

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a. Minimum height is 64 inches (5'4")
b. Maximum height is 77 inches (6'5")
c. Sitting height must be between 33-40 inches from the base of the spine
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Are there waivers available for this? I'm 5'3''. Oh, and I've been told the min. sitting height is 34 inches...I'm 33.5. 33 would be great! lol. But I got my info off the AF website. I know a pilot on a height waiver...but she's flying heavies. What about fighters? Oh I'm going Guard btw (DC). I've also heard that makes it a tad easier to get a height waiver. But...I dunno. I know a ton of pilots in the Guard, but it's not doing any good...and don't even bother trying to talk to a flight doc...grrr. Stress.. lol Thanks.

Jennifer



Edited by - Gearupgal on Jul 06 2004 7:57 PM

Yes they waiver Folks, and sometimes they will even seat you in an aircraft to verify you can perform the functions needed as a aircrew member.

Ive flown with guys so tall (exceeded the height) they were told if they punched out the Dash would more than likely take their legs off at the knees, and others under the minimum height. who were still damn good sticks.

The spine measurement comes in here. However, Most short people are short in leg distance and not overall Reach and torso measurement.

Most fightersif not all ejection seats have a Height adjustment switch to raise and lower you in the seat. The pedals are also adjustable Fore and AFT.

The only way you can find this out for sure is to submit a packet for Flight School and be examined by a flight surgeon.

If you plan on going Guard (AKA the old boy network) They will actually spend more time and care in insureing your needs are taken care of. Most Flight surgeons in the guard have been in the unit/Wing for a very long time and have no reasons to punk anyone out. On the other hand Most active duty entrance people look atyou as another number.


Be persistent. You can attain it if you care enough and work hard enough to prove your better than their inital thoughts of you.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

I've been told eye surgery can be waivered, basically PRIOR surgery disqualifies, but if they decide to give you the surgery, then it's OK. Does this sound right?

"Some pup"
Nickname by Fenderstrat72

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Gosh...you have totally made my day. I know nothing is official until the flt doc says so...but you at least made this sound possible! I'm joining the DC ANG now...(vipers)...but I know MD has the 10... Don't know any pilots up there though. And your right! I'm determined...because ya know what? I want this more than the other applicants...and I'm going to do everything in my power to fly that viper with a DC on the tail. Even if I have to go back 100 yrs and use the rack! lol. Thanks!!!

Yall rock!
Jenn

Well as a guard dude with a waiver....You have to go to Brooks. They will determine if you pass you flying class 1A physical. Your guard doc will most likely do your medical, but guard or not you have to go to brooks. If you fail, have no fear. You can still get a waiver, but I wouldn't say that it is easier in the guard. Brooks will do the work for you and if they say no then you have to get someone to bat for you.
Good Luck and think a little harder about your choice of fighter.

As a guard flight doc, I need to correct a few things...yes height is waiverable, the AF is accepting PRK (laser eye surgery) but not LASIK. DO NOT get eye surgery done without contacting a flight doc, and go to the AETC website, physical standards section, and research the requirements BEFORE getting the surgery done. It will save heartache and frustration.

The approval and waiver authority for SUPT (a Flying Class 1A physical) is AETC HQ at Randolph. Currently your flight doc is the only person who can submit a waiver for SUPT- the flt surgeon will do the physical, and submit the waiver. Brooks may or may not need to evaluate the candidate, depending on the issue. Brooks only gives a consultation, and is not the waiver authority. All SUPT candidates will go to Brooks for medical flight screening prior to starting training (but don't get me started on that touchy issue).

Get your physical done quickly, BTW. In the very near future ALL the FC1A physicals will be done only at Brooks, for all commissioning sources.


Actually getting a waiver for pilot training done in the Guard can be tougher, not a lot of flight docs with extra time on their hands to push waivers through, so get to know your doc well, and buy him extra beam and cokes at the club and you may have a chance...