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Hello guys, I'm really in need of some video of an Hog demo routine or at a minimum a hog demo card. Mudd will post some really bitchin' videos from the Fresno Jet Rally last weekend soon. You guys will love it!
Thanks again and hurry!
Will Whiteside
whiteside@aol.com

Will

I have some clip which I think came from one of the two demo teams (the West Coast A-10 Demo Team is at http://www.dm.af.mil/demoteam/ and the East Coast A-10 Demo Team is at
http://www.pope.af.mil/23fg/demo/demoweb.htm -- I <i>think</i> those are current URLs!). They are 6MB+. I can't check either of those 'cause the proxy server I was using went TU, and I can't reach .AF sites from my Belgiqistan ISP.

Good luck, hope this helps! M2

MAj. The pope Site as been down for a couple months...

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

OK ladies and Germs here is Will Whitesides Turbine A10 at the Fresno california Jet Rally.

Will got some Great Exposure with the Local News stations and took home 3 of the 5 Trophies available.

In fact their is a Bonus in the Film recordings, See if you can spot what the Bonus is in Wills Demo Flights <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

http://www.digitalvalhalla.net/ww/fresn ... friday.zip

http://www.digitalvalhalla.net/ww/fresn ... light1.zip

http://www.digitalvalhalla.net/ww/Fresn ... t12004.zip

http://www.digitalvalhalla.net/ww/A10SUNDAYFLT2.zip

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

that reminds me i need to send u the vid i have on CD <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Whiteside,

Did you get that reg I sent to you, or do you need more than that?

Tiny, I never got it.
Will

Ok. Here's the link directly from the Air Force pubs site: [url="http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/11/afi11-246v1/afi11-246v1.pdf"]AFI 11-246v1[/url]. It spells out exactly what an A-10 will do during a demo, including airspeeds, altitudes and descriptions of all maneuvers.



Edited by - tinygiant on Sep 21 2004 02:37 AM

Those videos are great...you flew the heck out of her on the 2nd flight....I was watching and a couple of coworkers came by & thought I was watching an actual A-10 do a demonstration...I let them think that...until the landing...then they realized what was up....thanks again...looking forward to the Demo flights!

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Try this link for Pope's Demo team...

http://public.pope.amc.af.mil/a10%20demo/index.htm

capche-capche da - we go forward together

Faugh ah Ballaugh -Clear The Way-

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Faugh ah Ballaugh ~ Clear the Way

Damn, still can't access it! Does anyone know of another on-line CGI proxy? The Crane Enterprises one when TU!

Cheers! M2

I noticed that pretty much all of the Hawg maneuvers are flown with max throttle... strange... <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

3M - http://www.freeproxy.ru/en/free_proxy/cgi-proxy.htm

You gotta sort thru them a bit, but you should be able to find one on there that works.

~Thud

Whiteside,

Every time I see videos of that hog flying I'm impressed. I don't think you could get any more realistic unless you where actually putting lead on the target. AMAZING! I know this isn't the bonus but did I also notice a code 3 flight in there? Faulty gear handle or did the Crew Chief forget to pull the gear pins <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>



capche-capche da - we go forward together

Faugh ah Ballaugh -Clear The Way-

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Faugh ah Ballaugh ~ Clear the Way

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I noticed that pretty much all of the Hawg maneuvers are flown with max throttle... strange... <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

3M - http://www.freeproxy.ru/en/free_proxy/cgi-proxy.htm

You gotta sort thru them a bit, but you should be able to find one on there that works.

~Thud
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Perhaps you're being funny?? Max power is still less than .5 to 1 T/W ratio... Well, maybe around .5 to 1 clean and low on gas like the demo team flies them...

ATTACK!!!!!!!

Yeah just a little humor... I was looking at how mast of the F-15 maneuvers list throttle as "as required," while the hog "requires" FT just about all the time! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

M2 - typo on your name in the above post

~Thud

Shoulda noticed the smiley face....duhhh...<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

ATTACK!!!!!!!

Spoke with Will on the Phone sounds like he is heading down to a Jet Meet in Tucson in the near Future. Anybody interested on Getting some DM contacts for him. Possibly a photo shoot with the Real Bulldogs and so forth?

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

Thud

Danke! (I knew who you meant)

Cheers! M2

Guys,
Great! I am really stoked you guys are so on board with this project. I've got to say that I pride myself with being able to fly a model like the real A/C but this one keeps me on my toes. It is SO capable that tight turns, fast roll in and out can be scale to the full size. I am trying hard to make it look right but need to see one in action flying the scale routine to get it in my minds eye. Thanks for the great comments. Tiny, great on the PDF. I will get some good info out of that doc. Yes, the nose gear sisnt come up and lock that one time. I think I had the jet under "G" during the cycle. came up fine on the jacks after the flight. I'm 55 lbs with 34lbs thrust at SL so I'm underpowered comp to the real Hog. Still fighting CG. Added the gyro on rudder because the nose is really to light.
Will

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Spoke with Will on the Phone sounds like he is heading down to a Jet Meet in Tucson in the near Future. Anybody interested on Getting some DM contacts for him. Possibly a photo shoot with the Real Bulldogs and so forth?

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Can you give me some dates (sent to my email addy) because I think I can help with this one. In fact the Bulldogs AFETs rep (a good friend of mine) is here for the 75% PE TO review all this and next week and I can get a contact from him, I'll talk to him today.

I can also talk to the PR person here (who owes me) and have it worked through DM's PR office. She's off today but I can contact her first thing Monday.

Ugly But Well Hung

OK I will give both of you a Call.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

Tiny, Yeah that doc will really help. Yes, most maneuvers will require full throttle. I will swap my lithium ion battery packs for some lithium polymer ones and save 12-13 oz. If I can move enough stuff fwd, I can swap out the nicad Receiver batts and save another 16 oz. Thats alot of weight. The issue becomes a CG issue, as I do need some weight in the nose for balance. Up to this point that has been with battery weight. I have installed a gyro on the rudders and NWS to stabilize the jet on the takeoff run. If you guys were to read the A-10 demo maneuver section of Tiny's Airforce document he posted, can you think of any maneuvers that are flown but not in that official document?
Thanks guys.
BTW, it looks like the RC jet meet that is in MESA AZ is just before Turkey day and then Tuscon jets is early next year. I will keep you posted.
Will Whiteside

Will

Not sure if you are still interested/looking for demo vids, but I found out about a website called Steve's Air Show (http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos.html) and went looking for some A-10 vids there. Well, there are about 150 of them, to include three entire demonstrations by the East Coast Demo Team and one by the West Coast Team. Be aware that these are RealPlayer files (medium quality) and that the entire demo vids are between 14-16MB, but there are a ton of smaller segments of the demos that you can download.

Now the hook, you have to go through each air show folder to find the A-10 segments, but it is worth the time and trouble if you want some nice A-10 demo vids.

Cheers! M2