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PostPosted: 03 Dec 2004, 07:11 
Report: Bonds admitted to using substances thought to be steroids

December 3, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Barry Bonds testified to a grand jury that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring, but said he didn't know they were steroids, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Friday.

Bonds told the federal grand jury last year that Greg Anderson, his personal trainer, told him the substances he used in 2003 were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by the Chronicle.

The substances Bonds described were similar to ones known as ``the clear'' and ``the cream,'' two steroids from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, the lab at the center of the steroid scandal.

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Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, said the leak of grand jury testimony was an attempt to smear his client. Grand jury transcripts are sealed and the Chronicle did not say who showed them the documents.

``My view has always been this case has been the U.S. vs. Bonds, and I think the government has moved in certain ways in a concerted effort to indict my client,'' Rains told the newspaper. ``And I think their failure to indict him has resulted in their attempts to smear him publicly.''

Calls to Rains' office from The Associated Press went unanswered Thursday night.

Tony Serra, Anderson's lawyer, said Anderson ``never knowingly provided illegal substances to anyone.''

The Chronicle story is the latest development this week in the more than yearlong BALCO probe. On Thursday, the paper reported Yankees slugger Jason Giambi told the grand jury he injected himself with human growth hormone in 2003 and also used steroids for at least three seasons.

Before the Bonds story was even published, U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said his office was concerned about the leaks to the Chronicle and asked the Justice Department to investigate.

Also, ABC News and ESPN the Magazine released excerpts of interviews with Conte, in which the BALCO founder admits to watching Olympic star Marion Jones inject herself in the leg with human growth hormone. Jones' attorneys denied she ever used performance-enhancing drugs. Conte's interview with ABC's ``20/20'' program will air Friday night.

Dozens of elite athletes testified before the grand jury last year, including baseball stars Bonds, Giambi and Gary Sheffield, and track stars Jones, Tim Montgomery and Kelli White.

The probe led to some athletes being banned from the Olympics and left a cloud of suspicion over others, such as Jones, who were allowed to compete despite the investigation.

But Bonds is the biggest star of all, the holder of baseball's single-season home run record of 73 in 2001 and the man who could break Hank Aaron's career homer mark of 755 as early as next year. Bonds ended last season with 703 homers and won his record seventh NL Most Valuable Player award.

It is uncertain what punishment, if any, Bonds could receive from baseball, which didn't have penalties for steroid use until last year.

While discipline is spelled out for positive tests and criminal convictions from 2003 on, admission of illegal steroid use is not addressed, possibly giving baseball commissioner Bud Selig an opening to punish Bonds.

Selig repeatedly has called for year-round random testing and harsher penalties, but management and the players' association have failed to reach an agreement. The contract runs through the 2006 season.

``I've been saying for many months: I instituted a very, very tough program in the minor leagues on steroids in 2001. We need to have that program at the major league level,'' Selig said Thursday in Washington, D.C. ``We're going to leave no stone unturned until we have that policy in place by spring training 2005.''

Prosecutors confronted Bonds with documents dating to his record-setting season of 2001 that allegedly detailed his use of many drugs, including human growth hormone, steroids and insulin. He said he believed he only used legal products to treat arthritis and fatigue.

Bonds danced around questions, saying he couldn't explain a calendar with the name ``Barry'' on it; he had never seen a bottle that says Depo-Testosterone; he had never heard of the drugs Clomid, modafinil and trenbolone; and he couldn't pronounce EPO.

Bonds testified that he didn't think any of the substances worked but kept using they out of loyalty to Anderson. He also said he never consulted with the Giants about what Anderson gave him.

``No way ... we don't trust the ball team,'' Bonds said. ``We don't trust baseball. ... Believe me, it's a business. I don't trust their doctors or nothing.''

Sheffield also testified to the grand jury that Bonds arranged for Anderson to give him ``the clear,'' ``the cream,'' and another steroid from Mexico, but also said he did not know they were steroids.

Bonds said he never paid Anderson for drugs or supplements but did give the trainer $15,000 in cash in 2003 for weight training and a $20,000 bonus after his 73-homer season.

Bonds said that Anderson had so little money that he ``lives in his car half the time.'' Asked by a juror why he didn't buy ``a mansion'' for his trainer, Bonds answered: ``One, I'm black, and I'm keeping my money. And there's not too many rich black people in this world. There's more wealthy Asian people and Caucasian and white. And I ain't giving my money up.''

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Bonds told the federal grand jury last year that Greg Anderson, his personal trainer, told him the substances he used in 2003 were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Arthritic Balms and ointments are applied to your joints that are the most overused like knees and elbows, if he had a cream and applied it anywhere else he knew!

I hate people like this, steroids should be left for the ones that need it!

I have steoids on hand at work for cases and they are only ever given to cancer patients, thevery sick or the severely allergic!

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Bonds answered: ``One, I'm black, and I'm keeping my money. And there's not too many rich black people in this world. There's more wealthy Asian people and Caucasian and white. And I ain't giving my money up.''<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> thats probly one of the more racist comments I've heard in mainstream media... and I bet nobody says anything about it.

You come into this world defenseless. That's why God gave us baseball bats. Well, he gave us trees. But we knew what he meant.

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PostPosted: 03 Dec 2004, 07:37 
You just did.

He may be black, and he may be rich, but he's also a CHEATER.

This scandal will become the 'Black Sox' equivelant of our era.

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remember allergic steriods are different than anabolic steriods. Have known a few athletes to get them confused. Cortico steriods actually break down tissue and cause many effects detrimental to athletic performance.

sorry about my spelling this morning


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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
You just did.

He may be black, and he may be rich, but he's also a CHEATER.

This scandal will become the 'Black Sox' equivelant of our era.

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
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<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>I meant as far as the media goes... and the "Black Sox" really got hosed especially Jackson...

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Well if he allowed to break Hammering Hanks record there better damn well be an asterisk next to it...Hank surplanted the Babe by eating fried chicken and being a true gentleman for the longetivity of his career...Roger Maris dealt with far worse breaking the the single season record in an extended schedule, but no one ever mentions he was in the middle of a pennant race, under the glare of the Bronx Ruth loyalists, and his protection in the lineup Mickey Mantle, was injured for most of the stretch...Marris got hosed for many years, if this Bonds MOFO gets off the hook, I will be one pissed off fan!


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"The only performing enhancing drugs Babe Ruth used where Beer and Hot Dogs"

I love that quote...lol


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amen to the beer and hot dog theory!! todays athletes, including bands seriously deface the game! i think any of barry's accomplishments should just be forgotten, and his "black man's money" should be givin to drug awareness programs!! what about giambi, he's not innocent either, but i think people look past his case a little more now due to his "illness".

just sit back, and let the 30mm do the work!!!


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Bond's steroids beats MacGwire's creatin. Easy come, easy go with beating Mac's record a season after it was set.

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PostPosted: 08 Dec 2004, 02:10 
Players OK Reaching Deal on Steroid Tests

BETH DeFALCO

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PHOENIX - Baseball players gave their lawyers the go-ahead Tuesday to reach an agreement with owners on tougher testing for steroids.

After negotiations with management were outlined to the executive board of the players' association, union head Donald Fehr said the board "authorized us to attempt to conclude an agreement consistent with those discussions."

Commissioner Bud Selig repeatedly has called for more frequent testing and harsher penalties for steroid use, stepping up the intensity following reports of grand jury testimony in a steroid investigation that includes Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield.

Gene Orza, the union's chief operating officer, said Monday that discussions toward a new agreement had advanced but the sides were still apart. Management expects talks to resume next week.

"We're very pleased they're coming to the table, and we hope we can achieve a program that works," said Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer.

About 40 players were present at the meeting, union spokesman Greg Bouris said. Players leaving the meeting declined comment or said they "could not" discuss what was said during the talks.

"I'm happy to see the union come together. We really need to clear up the public perception of what's going on," Oakland outfielder Eric Byrnes said from California in a phone interview Tuesday night. "It's been tough, because we haven't had a voice. The biggest thing is that the public knows it's not as prominent as media and some outside sources are making it out to be.

"Do I think it's right? No, absolutely not. In every walk of life, in every profession for hundreds of years, people have been looking to get an advantage. The kids, who are the most important part of this thing, need to know that this isn't OK."

Fehr defended the current program, saying it would work if "it had been given time."

"The preliminary indications, although I cannot go into details, are that the testing program we had this year had some pretty significant, positive effects," he said.

"That doesn't mean, given the experience we had, that there can't be amendments that would be even better."

Fehr said he and Arizona Sen. John McCain, who has threatened to propose federal legislation that would override the drug-testing provisions in baseball's collective bargaining agreement, spoke earlier in the week. Fehr expected they would talk again before the meeting ended Thursday.

Each player was tested once in 2004 during a period between the start of spring training and the end of the regular season.

In 2003, anonymous tests were conducted as a survey, and 5 to 7 percent came back positive. Fehr thought the number of positive tests declined this year but did not provide specifics.

"What you will see is a significant reduction," he said.

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