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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 12:15 
The TO interference call, if you get to see a replay, watch and see where the redskins defenders left arm is....it's wrapped around TOs waist.

It was a good call.

LOL......Vikings suck dude.

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 15:14 
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Vette...

Things are what they are. I bleed Silver & Black, but I have no problem saying these words. The Oakland Raiders Suck! You just got to brag up your teams in the good years, and curse them durring the bad. Snipe earned this "magical season" for he endured the Rich Kotite era, and the near misses durring the Dick Vermeil and Buddy Ryan years...Just give it up to the guy and give it back to him when your team is back in the hunt...But, I must concur with Snipe, Vikes suck...

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 18:05 
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Vette...

Things are what they are. I bleed Silver & Black, but I have no problem saying these words. The Oakland Raiders Suck! You just got to brag up your teams in the good years, and curse them durring the bad.


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I brag my team up when they're good and when they're bad. I curse them privately...and the Browns are REALLY bad...

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 20:46 
Not my fault you're blind.

Springs had his left hand wrapped around owens waist.

That friend, is illegal.

That game was a perfect storm for the Redskins. They were at home, coming off their first big win of the year, against a team that had already locked up it's bye before the game even started, against a team that's beat them 9 games in a row. The game starts with them up 7-0 less than 30 seconds in, you had TO fumbling at the Redskins 4, TO stepping one toe on the white line on a 50 yard bomb, aikers missing a field goal.......and STILL, the redskins couldn't take the Eagles.

The difference between the vikings and the Eagles is that the Eagles actually WIN the close games.



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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 21:41 
They could've called offsetting penalties on the play, but Springs definitely had his left arm wrapped around TOs waist.

"If the Eagles had an ounce of offense other than one or two good players, they'll be matching up with the Eagles quite nicely next year. If Gibbs stays with the Skins and retains that defense, next year won't be so easy in the NFC lEast."

I take it you mean "If the redskins had other than one or two good players"...

Well, the Redskins have lots of good players.

S.Taylor, S.Springs, F.Smoot, L.Arrington aren't good players?

L.Coles and C.Portis and C.Cooley aren't top notch offensive players?

The problem with the redskins is that the Eagles have 2x as many good players.

The Eagles win win the East again (and the NFC IMO), with ease.

The Eagles are still a young team. They're not going anywhere any time soon. :)

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 21:48 
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Vette, I am inpartial to this argument but the Vikings are not that good. First and Second round draft choices don't necessarily mean a thing. Look at all the first and second round flops: Brian Bosworth, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Rashaan Salaam, Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich, Mike Mamula, Ron Dayne, Andre Ware, Steve Spurrier, Ki-Jana Carter, Courtney Brown, Dan Wilkinson, Steve Emtman, Aundray Bruce, Byron Hanspard, Lawrence Phillips, Andy Katzenmoyer. Hey...this could be a new post! Whose the worst first round draft pick ever??

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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2004, 22:01 
"Mike Mamula"

Ouch.

Look at the Eagles 1st rounder from last year. Jerome McDougle. 1 sack in 1 3/4 seasons. He was the 15th pick of the draft too.

Worst ever pick?

Hmmm...

Tim Couch. :)



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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2004, 10:03 
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Vette...

Good teams win close games...Talent means nothing, every roster in the NFL has talent. Football is a team game, Vikes play NBA style football...

Worst number one pick ever???

Ryan Leaf hands down...Atleast Couch had the auspice of a few good seasons, and may resurect his career down the road.


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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2004, 10:47 
"Ryan Leaf hands down...Atleast Couch had the auspice of a few good seasons, and may resurect his career down the road."

Couch was drafted #1 overall. Both McNabb and Culpepper were still on the board. That's a pretty bad pick bro.

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"Ryan Leaf hands down...Atleast Couch had the auspice of a few good seasons, and may resurect his career down the road."

Couch was drafted #1 overall. Both McNabb and Culpepper were still on the board. That's a pretty bad pick bro.

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I'm sure the Tim Couch quip is aimed at me. Yes, that was a bad pick, but there were far worse flops. Ryan Leaf has to be top 5. BTW, Vette, I think mental mistakes start with the playcallers. Randy Moss QB'ing on first and ten with 2 minutes left in the game?? For pete's sake allow Culpepper to throw one to Moss. If that's intercepted then fine. But I'd be interested to see the stats for the reverse pass success rate. The interception to completion rate has to be above 20%, far, far less than the average QB (maybe 4%)...

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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2004, 20:06 
Yeah, i aimed that one at you WH30. Bet you wouldn't mind seeing a Cleveland Browns offense with McNabb at the helm. ;)

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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2004, 15:05 
Eagles, 13-1.

Caught the end of the Vikes game, lol...luck is wonderful thing.

X Rays on TO were negative, and the Eagles are in no hurry to get him back out there, especially Reid, who i'm sure would just as soon not see TO score 15TDs this season, lol.

Ready for next week's MNF game Booms? :)



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PostPosted: 19 Dec 2004, 19:46 
What else do you call the long snapper short hopping the ball on an extra point if not luck?

Good luck for the Vikes, bad luck for Lions. Luck plays a HUGE part in sports.

"Add back Winfield and Birk and the Vikes can give the Eagles as well a run for their money as any team in the NFC."

They'll be waiting for your Vikes, with a big fat 'cat ate the canary' grin on their collective faces. If i was you though, i'd hope your vikes can shoot straight long enough to actually MAKE the playoffs. I would not put losing out past them at this point. The Vikings defense is absolutely lousy.

I see a lot of poorly hidden jealousy and fear in your posts about the Eagles and Vikings. LOL...so unbecoming. ;)

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Snipe, I'm just glad that you had the intelligence enough just to leave your weekly Eagles commentary to just their record this week. That game was pitiful, and even though I'll freely admit that the bad snap at the end of the Vikes/Lions game was greatly-appreciated luck, my Vikings played a helluva lot stronger game than the team that's locked in home-field advantage (T.O. or no T.O.).

I honestly think that if McNabb hadn't been the smart QB that he's known to be and finally put the game on his OWN shoulders during that last scoring drive, the Eagles could've easily given a failing Dallas squad some momentum during the crazy NFC wild card race. And don't think for a second that I wasn't rooting for just that... <img src=newicons/saevil.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Good teams find away to win the games they are supposed to, even if its not pretty. The Eagles are 13-1 and still keep finding a way to pull it out...They win with routs, and have shown they can win the sqeakers even if their A game didn't show up...Its the NFL guys! Not Nintendo tecmo bowl!

How are them Vikes doing guys??? lol....Culpepper has no chance for the MVP, its not just stats, but what you mean to your team, and as a result how that team does. McNabb is sitting at 13-1, who cares what his stats are even though they are first rate....

You guys crack me up, you can't bust snipes chops on the Eagles won loss record, so you are trying to bust his chops on how they won...lmao get a life!!!


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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2004, 11:28 
Actually KF, it was Dono that got the Eagles in such a bind to begin with by fumbling and tossing two INTs.

When he was on early in the game(and he was), his recievers were dropping passes. When they finally started catching passes, he started misfiring.

But, the joy in the running QB is that when all else fails, you still have that.

That being said, B.Westbrook had a phenomenal game again- racking up 120 some yards of offense. I sure wish Reid was more devoted to the run. It's a travesty of justice that after 14 games Westbrook only has about 780yds rushing, the man should have over 1200yds at this stage. Of course, if you factor in his recieving yards, he's close to 1400yds of offense.

And there is DEFINITELY something to crow about from yesterdays game.

DE-FENSE.

The Eagles D since trotter has been the starting MLB has been outstanding, and yesterday allowed all of 220 some net yards, and only 7 pts despite 3 Eagles turnovers. This season the Eagles avg. points surrendered per turnover is under 2.0....

That's the diff. between the Eagles and the Vikings.

Defense.

You put the Eagles defense in Minnestota, and guess what. The Vikings would be 13-1 too.





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I agree, Snipe. I said the same thing 3 weeks ago:

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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2004, 13:20 
TO UPDATE:

TO has suffered two partial tears to his ligaments, and will be out the remainder of the REGULAR season, and may miss the 1st playoff game, but is expected back for the NFC Championship game, which is still 5 weeks away.

This is not confirmed by the Eagles, but is being reported by 610WIP reporter Howard Eskin, who is almost never wrong, the man is way plugged into the Philly sports scene.

So while not good, it could've been a lot worse.

The Eagles will face the lowest seeded team in the Divisional round, so TOs absence shouldn't hurt them there as long as McNabb and Westbrook stay healthy.

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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2004, 13:24 
I agree KF. And if you put the Minn defense in Philly(though i think with J.Johnson running it your players would peform better), the Eagles would only be a 10 or 11 win team...a lot like the Colts- or the Vikes.

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PostPosted: 20 Dec 2004, 14:19 
It has just been anounced that TO is out until AT LEAST the Superbowl, and probably for the year.

He also broke his fibia along with the ligament damage.

BEST CASE scenario is he won't even be able to run for 5-6 weeks. :(

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