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Nice write-up, sorry for the eyestrain!

Cheers! M2

Whaaaaahahah, can carry-on an entire conversation without mentioning the GAU-8A!!! Good write-up with only one small mistake on the ammo load number (should be 1,174 +- 5 round)… overall great!

Ugly But Well Hung

He evidently was given the capacity of the older (non light weight) drum.

"face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!"

Seriously doubt anyone on the receiving end would notice the 170 round delta. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> And, as posted elswhere, if the F-35 is dead/dying, and the F/A-22 becomes a non-starter, guess who that leaves for A to G work...(you get 3 guesses and the second two won't count!).<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."

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They would if they were the last two in line for the Avengers attention and it ran out of ammo! 170 rounds is two and 1/2 seconds of death....you might not notice if it's there but, I bet you would notice if it wasn't and you got to watch the A-10 RTB without making a pass AT YOU!!

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Ugly But Well Hung

Very good point Dice, good point indeed.

Fender
"A woman drove me to drink
and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
W.C. Fields

True, true. But then any raghead wouldn't care if it was RTB for gas or gun...just that it was "Allah's Will". Unless, of course, Allah's Will was for the wingman to drop those +/- rounds on him! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."

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\"Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.\"
- Thomas Jefferson

Sweet...............I cant wait to see a few of those on our ramp if and when it happens.

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

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YGBSM !

GOOD ARTICLE, BUT HE SHOULD OF MADE CLEARER THAT THAT WAS ONLY "2" A-10'S THAT MADE THOSE 23 TANK KILLS IN ONE DAY.

ITS NICE SEEING THE OLD GIRL GO IN FOR PLASTIC SURGERY,IMPLANTS,FACE LIFT SHE LOOKS BETTER THAN EVER.

GOOSE

MONEY TALKS,B.S. JUST PILES UP.

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To bad you couldnt get implants, and a facelift buddy ! Who loves ya more than me ?

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

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YGBSM !

I never said 1350.

Bob Dorr is an idiot, the phone call lasted 17 minutes and all he wanted to do was talk about current tactics.

Coach

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I was reading this at work thew other day and when I came to the 1350 rds part, I read it out loud and everybody was like "what????" Must be a new TCTO<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>. I've seen that 1350 rds listed alot of places. Come to think of it, even on that "fact sheet" that also says the LASTE does terrain following on autopilot and the A-10 has explosive bolts so the engine can be jettisoned is hit. I'll try and post a copy of that after I get back from 7lvl school.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand Binary, and those who don't.

1350 rds comes right out of the 1A-10A-2-1-1 section 16

"face it....perhaps your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others!"

Coach, I did think you said that and I didn't mean to imply you did, a lot of reporters use "caned" info and never bother to update it. It's like how many rounds the GAU-8A can fire, yous still see the 2,500 listed sometimes.

The system used to carry 1,350 rounds but a TCTO in the early 90 reduced the load to 1,174 rounds. If I remember right it was a redesign of the aft "Cap" on the drum itslf which made the system more reliable. Both loads and tear-down instructions are still in the T.O's because if need be, we could still use the older drum from say an AMARC jet.

Ugly But Well Hung

Edited by - Dice-man on Mar 05 2005 05:16 AM

The drum was redesigned very early in the A-10 lifespan to contain only 1150. Well before the early 90's. 1174 is the max load with the chutes full.

Coach

coach is right. I first worked the GAU-8/A in June of 1982. I went straight to the backshop at RAF Bentwaters. In my entire time there,to 1985, my time at Myrtle Beach, 1985 to 1992, I only seen one Drum that was not updated with the new and improved "Helix". Sorry Dice it wasnt the end cap but the helix otherwise known as the inner drum that was modified. One of the old timers at BW had to tell me about the old helix becuase I thought it was new however it was in fact the old one. It was thinner in critical places. Only someone that has seen the old helix wound really understand what I am saying. As a matter of fact a lot of folk dont understand how it works anyway. lets just say giant corkscrew.

Fender
"A woman drove me to drink
and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
W.C. Fields

I stand corrected.....

Ugly But Well Hung

The way you stand is tall in my eyes Dice. If I wanted to know about any mod on the A-10 I would come to you. Just because you werent sure on this one doesnt mean you're not the go to guy for most anything A-10. You are and dont forget it.

Fender
"A woman drove me to drink
and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her".
W.C. Fields

Thanks Fender!! <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ugly But Well Hung

All that gee wiz stuff is great! Keeping the Hog relevent. The engines are old and tired, landing gear too! I sure hope all of that can hold up. Engine replacement is 4-5 years out.

Cheesehead, there is a plan in place (and working) to replace all the landing gear by the time SLEP1 is finnished. As far as the engines go.... "we" might have to make some pretty big "sacrifices" to fund them. <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/smiley_salute.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ugly But Well Hung

Dice-man,
As far as I know, there is no plan to replace landing gear in SLEP1. The aircraft we have received from SLEP have the the same gear. The "beefed up" MLG struts currently in the system only have rebuilt outer cylinders but the inner cylinders are original equipment. Hopefully axle failures will not become a trend!

Cheesehead, as I remember the plan (when I was the ACCLO) was to replace struts (during SLEP1) as the supply system could support them, through the 207 processes. The supply system has been behind the SLEP flow so I guess some aircraft will/could return without new struts. This also may have changed from a year ago, when I retired, I haven't been keeping-up with all the programs like I use to.

Ugly But Well Hung

Dice I am way out of the loop on stuff like this but are Guard funded programs progressing quicker than Air Force programs ? Or are they really one and the same in the big scheme of things ?

By this time tomorrow I shall have gained either a pearage or Westminster Abbey........Nelson

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Dice I am way out of the loop on stuff like this but are Guard funded programs progressing quicker than Air Force programs ? Or are they really one and the same in the big scheme of things ?
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Hawg166, the Guard/Reserves have "extra" monies sometime to fund smaller programs (leading edge panels/newer recorders/LARS for example) or fund CAF wide programs but, you use the money to get the mod on your jets quicker. Or you guys give funding to support a mod/upgrade outside the normal funding line and are put in "the front of the line" to recieve that mod/upgrade. Funding and the "color of money", and what you can do with that color within a command, is very complacated to say the least!!

We (the CAF) have received a lot of money from the Guard/Reserves in "fall-out" funding in the past few years which has really helped push some mods/repaires through the system and get them into the field quicker. Overall I would say the Guard/Reserves are better funded on the whole than some other commands.



Ugly But Well Hung